Suiton FTG.

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Lmao, this guy wishes Tobirama was Minato sooooooo bad Lol

Ey, it's not my fault Minato has thé most impressive Sharingan in the manga.

I believe Tobirama can do the same. The only difference i think i've noticed thus far is the difference in range(talking about lvl1 only). Minato's marking allows him to cover a far greater range than Tobirama's if what i interpretated is right

Could you elaborate?

 

[Retsu]

If you look at the slide Tobirama says himself that there's too many trees blocking the way.

even so he's had many an opportunity where it would have been to his advantage to use this supposed suiton ftg, and yet he hasn't, I'm not saying he can't, but if he can, I'm pretty sure he'd have done so by now.

 

[LegendaryAce]

Lmao @the "minato perfected ftg" minato did not do such a thing sir he made it more versatile to his fighting style, i am pretty sure a genius like tobirama if he fought like minato's "speed > all" style he would have made something similar to that he just obviously fights differently to minato and focuses on different aspects...minato on the other hand tries figuring the weaknesses and attacks fast.

 

[cgulley]

It's good to compare the two, but I sense there's more to the 4th's FTG. I don't think it's complete or we haven't seen the completed form yet.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

THIS PROVES IT LAWD TOBIRAMA> EVERYONE (excluding stocking of course)

@Bold... wise words !!!

OT: Assuming his chakra is connected to the water at the particular time... yes in theory he could do so as their technique is literally the same except Minato has a habit of Tagging Kunai.

 

[Fair Warning]

A very 'matter of fact' approach. Oh how I wish I was intellectual as you.

Well of course I do, he invented the technique, it's only fair.

He also invented Edo Tensei...which Kabuto and Oro improved drastically...and Shadow Clone, which Naruto uses like a BAMF

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

even so he's had many an opportunity where it would have been to his advantage to use this supposed suiton ftg, and yet he hasn't, I'm not saying he can't, but if he can, I'm pretty sure he's have done so by now.

He hasn't really, he's had no need for it; Obito's been marked ever since he rushed Tobirama, there'd of been no need for Suiton - which would've just fallen off the target.

 

[Bogard]

Could you elaborate?

It's just a speculation
But if you want my idea, this is it:

- On this pic:

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Notice that Sasuke and Naruto ran towards Obito to create an opening in advance when Tobirama and Minato stayed backwards for the supposed mainpart

On this pic however we see Minato suddenly appearing(that happened after Tobirama appeared behind Obito):

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Remember that Naruto and Sasuke were far away from them(Minato and Tobirama) at that moment since they made the first step a while ago, but we see Minato suddenly appearing before them when not even an instant earlier he was discussing with Tobirama.

Tobirama appeared behind Obito because he marked him. But for Minato to be there that instantly, i thought first he used shunshin, but the sound effect around it makes me think he used Hiraishin instead

But here is the thing. Where is the marking where he teleported to. He only marked Tobirama an instant earlier and same Tobirama was behind Obito away from him, yet he managed to appear just before Naruto and Sasuke. So i believe the difference between Minato's lvl1 Hiraishin and Tobirama's is the radius where Minato is capable to teleport. I think Tobirama's marking only allows him to teleport near the marking in question. Minato's marking on the contrary can make him teleport around a certain radius. I think it's the reason why their markings are different. Minato probably extended the range of the jutsu

What made me confirm this further is this panel:

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Tobirama asks Minato if he can fly directly to Naruto, but how can he ask him something like this when he never marked Naruto? The only marking he has at that moment is on Tobirama(and vice-verse since they put marking on each other). And Minato replied that the only reason he couldn't was because of his chakra reserve, which means that if he indeed had more chakra, he could have teleported to Naruto, when Tobirama apparently couldn't since he asked if Minato can(the fact he asked him means himself couldn't).

Since both were in the same position(markings in the same position), i suppose then that what would have allowed Minato's hiraishin to teleport there when Tobirama couldn't is the radius i was talking about

 

[Penguin]

@Bold... wise words !!!

OT: Assuming his chakra is connected to the water at the particular time... yes in theory he could do so as their technique is literally the same except Minato has a habit of Tagging Kunai.

His chakra is the water he summons for jutsu bro. He uses his chakra to manipulate water, and his chakra is in the water during the jutsu.

 

[Retsu]

He hasn't really, he's had no need for it; Obito's been marked ever since he rushed Tobirama, there'd of been no need for Suiton - which would've just fallen off the target.

I dunno, he always tags everything by hand, I doubt he can utilize it in such a way, but with kishi's manga, anything's possible

 

[Fodder#4]

Lmao, this guy wishes Tobirama was Minato sooooooo bad Lol

Who would ever want to downgrade Tobirama to that noob Minato's level. Minato has what, two jutsu to him? Tobirama invents shit on the daily. THAT, I might add, Minato loves to copy.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

It's just a speculation
But if you want my idea, this is it:

- On this pic:

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Notice that Sasuke and Naruto ran towards Obito to create an opening in advance when Tobirama and Minato stayed backwards for the supposed mainpart

On this pic however we see Minato suddenly appearing(that happened after Tobirama appeared behind Obito):

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Remember that Naruto and Sasuke were far away from them(Minato and Tobirama) at that moment since they made the first step a while ago, but we see Minato suddenly appearing before them when not even an instant earlier he was discussing with Tobirama.

Tobirama appeared behind Obito because he marked him. But for Minato to be there that instantly, i thought first he used shunshin, but the sound effect around it makes me think he used Hiraishin instead

But here is the thing. Where is the marking where he teleported to. He only marked Tobirama an instant earlier and same Tobirama was behind Obito away from him, yet he managed to appear just before Naruto and Sasuke. So i believe the difference between Minato's lvl1 Hiraishin and Tobirama's is the radius where Minato is capable to teleport. I think Tobirama's marking only allows him to teleport near the marking in question. Minato's marking on the contrary can make him teleport around a certain radius. I think it's the reason why their markings are different. Minato probably extended the range of the jutsu

What made me confirm this further is this panel:

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Tobirama asks Minato if he can fly directly to Naruto, but how can he ask him something like this when he never marked Naruto? The only marking he has at that moment is on Tobirama(and vice-verse since they put marking on each other). And Minato replied that the only reason he couldn't was because of his chakra reserve, which means that if he indeed had more chakra, he could have teleported to Naruto, when Tobirama apparently couldn't since he asked if Minato can(the fact he asked him means himself couldn't).

Since both were in the same position(markings in the same position), i suppose then that what would have allowed Minato's hiraishin to teleport there when Tobirama couldn't is the radius i was talking about

Wasn't Naruto marked at birth?

I've skimmed over what you're saying, and it might be true. Another thing ( Which I'm working on.) is that Minato and Tobirama are so advanced at FTG that they make no differentiation between it and Shunshin (In the official Viz scans) possibly because they are one and the same.

I think we need to see more on Tobirama's FTG but they both clearly (Especially Minato.) have some selective teleportation ability within the radius they teleport to.

 

[Bogard]

Wasn't Naruto marked at birth?

I've skimmed over what you're saying, and it might be true. Another thing ( Which I'm working on.) is that Minato and Tobirama are so advanced at FTG that they make no differentiation between it and Shunshin (In the official Viz scans) possibly because they are one and the same.

I think we need to see more on Tobirama's FTG but they both clearly (Especially Minato.) have some selective teleportation ability within the radius they teleport to.

No he wasn't. If it was the case, Minato would have been able to save the duo(Sasuke and Naruto) the moment he was looking at a nearby marking(on Obito):

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When he realised Obito didn't have the marking anymore in order to teleport to them, he would have teleported thanks to Naruto's supposed markings, which clearly didn't happen

 

[Avinash012]

Wasn't Naruto marked at birth?
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No, Minato never marked Naruto.......

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

No he wasn't. If it was the case, Minato would have been able to save the duo(Sasuke and Naruto) the moment he was looking at a nearby marking(on Obito):

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When he realised Obito didn't have the marking anymore in order to teleport to them, he would have teleported thanks to Naruto's supposed markings, which clearly didn't happen

Alright, dun' get Turnt up. Was only asking.

 

[Bogard]

Alright, dun' get Turnt up. Was only asking.

Lol i'm not Princess Charlie xD

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Lol i'm not Princess Charlie xD

Lawl, call him that.

 

[Avinash012]

It's just a speculation
But if you want my idea, this is it:

- On this pic:

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Notice that Sasuke and Naruto ran towards Obito to create an opening in advance when Tobirama and Minato stayed backwards for the supposed mainpart

On this pic however we see Minato suddenly appearing(that happened after Tobirama appeared behind Obito):

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Remember that Naruto and Sasuke were far away from them(Minato and Tobirama) at that moment since they made the first step a while ago, but we see Minato suddenly appearing before them when not even an instant earlier he was discussing with Tobirama.

Tobirama appeared behind Obito because he marked him. But for Minato to be there that instantly, i thought first he used shunshin, but the sound effect around it makes me think he used Hiraishin instead

But here is the thing. Where is the marking where he teleported to. He only marked Tobirama an instant earlier and same Tobirama was behind Obito away from him, yet he managed to appear just before Naruto and Sasuke. So i believe the difference between Minato's lvl1 Hiraishin and Tobirama's is the radius where Minato is capable to teleport. I think Tobirama's marking only allows him to teleport near the marking in question. Minato's marking on the contrary can make him teleport around a certain radius. I think it's the reason why their markings are different. Minato probably extended the range of the jutsu

Makes alot of sense Bro also he did the same thing incase of SA, Kunai are far away from alot of people...

What made me confirm this further is this panel:

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Tobirama asks Minato if he can fly directly to Naruto, but how can he ask him something like this when he never marked Naruto? The only marking he has at that moment is on Tobirama(and vice-verse since they put marking on each other). And Minato replied that the only reason he couldn't was because of his chakra reserve, which means that if he indeed had more chakra, he could have teleported to Naruto, when Tobirama apparently couldn't since he asked if Minato can(the fact he asked him means himself couldn't).

Since both were in the same position(markings in the same position), i suppose then that what would have allowed Minato's hiraishin to teleport there when Tobirama couldn't is the radius i was talking about

Nah, it is not like that , he is asking that bcoz thire chakra's are mixed with eachother and Minato didn;t said that he is run out of chakra , he is actually refering to chakra link b/w Naruto & Minato....

 

[KingHashirama]

He also invented Edo Tensei...which Kabuto and Oro improved drastically...and Shadow Clone, which Naruto uses like a BAMF

"improved drastically".... show me the drastically. It was only said to be imperfect.

Shadow clone.. considering Tobirama in base has more chakra in base don't see whats stopping him from using it like Naruto.