Suicide Squad negative reviews!
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chopstickchakra
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Planning on seeing it, never saw MoS or BvS.
This one looks like they paid more attention to the characters(get out now with that tired, but look at Joker) yes Joker looks odd with the tattoos and grill but aside from that he's got the right shade of hair, the bleached skin, the physique, aside from the tattoos this is the first Joker looking Joker we've gotten in movies, Jack was too big and Heath completely changed his appearance(despite giving an amazing performance). The characters from the trailer seem to fit in character with their comic counters whereas Batman(the greatest detective) did little to no detecting and Superman(the ultimate boy scout) showed no concern for civilian casualty so that's an improvement for Squad over MoS or BvS.
Why are you, who's yet to see it either so absolutely determined that it be bad and others see it that way? You know when people go into something with such a pre-existing negative disposition like yourself there's no chance for it to impress you regardless of how well it was done.
I find flaws in Snyder movies especially MoS and BvS, like style over substance, and the moments that aren't properly built up, which I found to be sort of 'unaware' of how that would happen in reality.
Basically I am just wondering if there is something people enjoy and whether they are even aware of the flaws I find.
I just don't give DC the benefit of doubt anymore.
BvS has issues, like the pacing problems, which made it kinda messy. Scenes being there only to look cool in the trailers, like Superman looking like jesus instead of saving the people on the roof. The shoehorned JL members "trailers" And of course the Martha thing which was a disaster.
People can see the flaws, but we can enjoy it regardless. The movie is visually stunning, I loved the action, both Affleck and Gadot were great in their respective roles. The hand to hand Batman fight is how you properly do a Batman fight, it was great.
Point is the bad can be overlooked if you really like the good. That might not work for you, but it works for me and other people.
Haven't seen it yet so can't say. I do expect there to be problems with balancing characters with the story. With 10 characters either some of them will have little screentime in order to put emphasis on the story or the characters will be well presented with the story taking a kick instead.
chopstickchakra
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There's very little you shouldn't give the benefit of doubt especially in entertainment. An artist can put out 1000 mediocre paintings or songs etc and you may say "I haven't liked these so why will I like the next" then boom, their next songs a masterpiece and you skipped it because of a preconceived notion. I went into Nolan's Batman's with preconceived notions of what a Bats movie should be(high kicking martial arts and detective work) and was disappointed with some of the choices Nolan made but on the flip I went into Guardians blank and enjoyed it all. Going in with expectations that don't get met are how people sour on movies too quick.
I haven't has much of a problem with Snyder's movies(I enjoyed Dawn of the Dead, Watchmen, 300 and SuckerPunch) I did dislike how out of character Supes was in his movies though. But to be fair Nolan wrote MoS not Snyder so issues with plot and story should be taken up with Nolan and the studio but people don't know how to accurately assign blame with movies they dislike(prime example being everyone talking about how Michael Bay ruined the turtles when he didn't write or direct it) Directors should only be blamed on how a movie looks and is presented, the writers should be blamed on a movie's story and character development. If you guys have complaints over DC's movies complain about/to David Goyer.
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But that's really what I blam Snyder for though, his story telling has many epic scenes with little to no built up to them, there are many concepts about how character like bats and luthor reacts to sups but it's barely explored.
People can defend it with the heavy symbolism, like lex's halo at party, supes being haunted by the Zod he killed to be hit with monument with names of people he couldn't save, the death scene with light and all that shit, but that's not a movie, those are just things that are stated bluntly as if 'this happened'.
The difference is a story told through a good poem or a well written paragraph, and as if someone just stated it in bullet points, you essentially say the same thing but the little details are missed, things that go in a conversation that can't be put to words, this is what I consider unaware, and why I dislike snyder and the attitude he expresses through the movies. And I have seen pictures with bad script but good execution(Man from u.n.c.l.e) and with good script but not that-great execution(Ant man) but this one is both in my book.
