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Your attempts at humour have failed you once more.

ISIS are of the Islamic faith. Therefore, they are Muslims.

Your logic of I think therefore I em doesn't apply.

I dead ass posted that to Hawker's bigoted self but he just ignored it!



Okami is correct on this one brah. If they claim themselves as Muslims, then they're Muslims. Doesn't mean they follow the acts of how a Muslim should be, simple.

When there acts are more political than religious, they are nothing more than psychopathic criminals who deserve no such recognition.

So keep giving them names they wanna hear. While ignoring there criminal acts as another criminal thing.
 

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When there acts are more political than religious, they are nothing more than psychopathic criminals who deserve no such recognition.

So keep giving them names they wanna hear. While ignoring there criminal acts as another criminal thing.

They are still Muslims but yes they go against Islam and the Qur'an itself but they are still considered Muslims. That's the point.
 

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They are still Muslims but yes they go against Islam and the Qur'an itself but they are still considered Muslims. That's the point.

Yes by the media that labels them as one. While in reality they are nothing but criminals.
 

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In Iraq, there were zero suicide attacks in the country's history until 2003. Since then, there have been 1,892.
In Pakistan, there was one suicide attack in the 14 years before 9/11. In the fourteen years since, there have been 486.
After 14 years, $4.4tn, and hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Bro, make sure Mad Titan Thanos never sees your sig :D
 

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Your attempts at humour have failed you once more.

ISIS are of the Islamic faith. Therefore, they are Muslims.

Your logic of I think therefore I em doesn't apply.

That's such a naive way of seeing it, I guess the media definitely is doing its job great.

OT: I feel sorry for the families of the victims and the victims itself, my heart is with them.

Also people will always try to find dumbshit reasons as to why humans do these "things",but honestly humanity is ****ed whether it is for religion, political or economical reasons or no reason whatsoever people are going to kill, murder, pillage and rape as long as this world exists so just get over it.
 

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"This proves that isis are not muslims" These kinds of statements are all I have been seeing on Social Media & Tv. But hardly have I been seeing any message of sorrow or anger on the situation itself, just "Terrorists not only Muslim". Come on, has the subject become so repetitive that we are now used to the attacks & now just trying to find someone to blame? Really?

I only speak of what my own eyes have seen thus far. Just find it slightly sad that "Some" people seem to be more concerned on who to blame rather than the victims of the crisis.

My heart is with all those that were victims & families of the victims. I really wish I could do more to help those in need.

That goes both ways. Also people who look at these incidents and say "they are muslims" also are more concerned with pointing the fingers rather than the victims.
And I don't blame people who point out that ISIS aren't muslims. We have said the same thing for months but bigots simply wouldn't listen. I think after the unjust blame on 1.3 billion people for so long, it is imperative that everyone points out that ISIS aren't muslims.
 

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This doesn't prove that ISIS aren't Muslims. This proves that ISIS will kill anyone who doesn't support their ideals including Muslims.

Think if a Christian group would bomb the Vatican and have a desire to conquer the whole Italy and countries around the Mediterranean, you still think they are Christians?
Or if a Buddhist monk blows up a temple, is he doing it in the name of Buddhism?

It is clear ISIS is just using religion for their interests and don't believe in the Koran, most likely none of the mercenaries have even read it. How can you call someone a muslim who doesn't even know a basic law, that a true Muslim should never kill another Muslim.
This is similar to a westbro saying "Kill all gays. Believe in Jesus". Do you not see the contradiction?
 

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I dead ass posted that to Hawker's bigoted self but he just ignored it!



Okami is correct on this one brah. If they claim themselves as Muslims, then they're Muslims. Doesn't mean they follow the acts of how a Muslim should be, simple.

LMAO, so people cannot lie anymore? Really? If I have a swastika on my forehead and killed 13 Germans, and claim to be a peaceful member of Baha'i. What am I? According to your logic I am a peaceful member of Baha'i. Hahahah
 

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What they call themselves and what they are , are two differnet things fam :scorps:

They've already broke countless of laws that muslims should not do

Muslims are human, Christians are human, Buddhist are humans, even Hindus are humans. A Muslim can steal, murder, rape, have dogs, eat porks and even drink alcohol, they can because they can, regardless what their religion says. Look at Mesut Ozil for example, he's an alcohol drinking, tattoo covered, dog loving Muslim. He's not married but he lives with his girlfriend. Is he not a Muslim despite claiming to be one? You're what you claim to be, you're what you're born as until you decide to change it, you're what your ID's says. They claim to be Muslims, a group of thousands of Muslims, a group filled with many known family who are Muslims, a group filled with many whose stories has been shared in newspapers, internet and even coffee shops, a group who has claimed to be Muslims. So, yes, they are Muslims. I'm a Muslim and I accept the truth, not sure why many are in denials. They are a group who has beheaded people who they accused to be "spies", has beheaded many Muslims who opposed them, so this Mosque incident should not be a surprise. They're radicalized morons who unfortunately are Muslims.

So if I say I am a dog will I be a dog?

A girl claimed to be a cat and is now categorized as one. Yes, if being a dog will make you happy, Scooby.

LMAO, so people cannot lie anymore? Really? If I have a swastika on my forehead and killed 13 Germans, and claim to be a peaceful member of Baha'i. What am I? According to your logic I am a peaceful member of Baha'i. Hahahah

No one used the term "peaceful
 

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Muslims are human, Christians are human, Buddhist are humans, even Hindus are humans. A Muslim can steal, murder, rape, have dogs, eat porks and even drink alcohol, they can because they can, regardless what their religion says. Look at Mesut Ozil for example, he's an alcohol drinking, tattoo covered, dog loving Muslim. He's not married but he lives with his girlfriend. Is he not a Muslim despite claiming to be one? You're what you claim to be, you're what you're born as until you decide to change it, you're what your ID's says. They claim to be Muslims, a group of thousands of Muslims, a group filled with many known family who are Muslims, a group filled with many whose stories has been shared in newspapers, internet and even coffee shops, a group who has claimed to be Muslims. So, yes, they are Muslims. I'm a Muslim and I accept the truth, not sure why many are in denials. They are a group who has beheaded people who they accused to be "spies", has beheaded many Muslims who opposed them, so this Mosque incident should not be a surprise. They're radicalized morons who unfortunately are Muslims.



A girl claimed to be a cat and is now categorized as one. Yes, if being a dog will make you happy, Scooby.



No one used the term "peaceful


It doesn't make any sense. If a Jew came to Hitler and said he was German, you think he wouldn't be sent to the camps, because he said he was German?
If you dont fit the description, or break the rules, you are falsely claiming to someone you are not.
In order to be a muslim you have to follow certain laws. As long as you don't abide by them, you can call yourself whatever you want, you cannot be considered a muslim.

If I say I'm Saitama or Goku, is it true? What stupid logic.
I guess I'm also Chinese, because I say so, even though I can't speak the language, don't have it's citizenship nor have any ancestors from China. This is seriously so plain stupid.

If I email the admins here and say I'm not Mr SwizZz, I'm actually Le0 and I want them to delete all my posts as Le0, will they do it? Because I say I'm Le0?
No one used the term "peaceful
Oh, okay. So I guess I'm not someone I claim to be then?
 
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A girl claimed to be a cat and is now categorized as one. Yes, if being a dog will make you happy, Scooby.

I see so I am assuming she has grown cat like hair, has her whole body deformed into a kitty, she generally likes to lick her paws. Hmmm... I guess there is a way to turn into a kitty. Nice job finding that method.
 

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If a Jew came to Hitler and said he was German, you think he wouldn't be sent to the camps, because he said he was German?

There were Jews who were Germans and they were sent to the camps.


If you dont fit the description, or break the rules, you are falsely claiming to someone you are not.
In order to be a muslim you have to follow certain laws. As long as you don't abide by them, you can call yourself whatever you want, you cannot be considered a muslim.

You're a Muslim regardless what kind of sins you've committed, and why is that? Because legally, you're a Muslim. It doesn't matter whether you think of yourself as an atheist, a Christian or even a Hindu, if legally you're a Muslim then you are. By that logic, the Muslim population would be less than a billion because apparently once you've committed a sin, you're not a Muslim.

If I say I'm Saitama or Goku, is it true? What stupid logic.
I guess I'm also Chinese, because I say so, even though I can't speak the language, don't have it's citizenship nor have any ancestors from China. This is seriously so plain stupid.

Is Saitama or Goku a religion? That's not a stupid logic, that's a stupid example. True, this example is plain stupid. I stated an example from a legal standpoint while you're using examples that made no sense at all. The girl claimed to be a cat and had it legally change therefore she is now categorized as one. A man claimed to be a 7-8 year old girl and he had that legally changed and is now categorized as one and was even adopted. You need to learn the difference.

If I email the admins here and say I'm not Mr SwizZz, I'm actually Le0 and I want them to delete all my posts as Le0, will they do it? Because I say I'm Le0?

It doesn't work that way, I'm not even sure if this is a desperate attempt to justify your argument or you're being serious. But for the heck of it, I'll response to this. My account is under an email, therefore to lock this account and remove all of my post, it needs to be approved via this email or even via this account. So, to claim yourself to be an owner of an account without having the account's password or email would end in failure. There, you learn something new everyday.

Oh, okay. So I guess I'm not someone I claim to be then?

The term "peaceful" would not apply to such actions. You can claim to be peaceful but your actions can state otherwise. You can claim to be anything and have that legally approved but if you're a murderer or an extremist, then no you're not as peaceful as you claim to be.

I see so I am assuming she has grown cat like hair, has her whole body deformed into a kitty, she generally likes to lick her paws. Hmmm... I guess there is a way to turn into a kitty. Nice job finding that method.

Nope, she claimed to be one and had some sort of surgery to her face and afterward attempted to legally change her classification into a pet or a cat. Don't praise me, I'm only stating the news, praise the girl, Scoob.
 
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There were Jews who were Germans and they were sent to the camps.




You're a Muslim regardless what kind of sins you've committed, and why is that? Because legally, you're a Muslim. It doesn't matter whether you think of yourself as an atheist, a Christian or even a Hindu, if legally you're a Muslim then you are. By that logic, the Muslim population would be less than a billion because apparently once you've committed a sin, you're not a Muslim.



Is Saitama or Goku a religion? That's not a stupid logic, that's a stupid example. True, this example is plain stupid. I stated an example from a legal standpoint while you're using examples that made no sense at all. The girl claimed to be a cat and had it legally change therefore she is now categorized as one. A man claimed to be a 7-8 year old girl and he had that legally changed and is now categorized as one and was even adopted. You need to learn the difference.



It doesn't work that way, I'm not even sure if this is a desperate attempt to justify your argument or you're being serious. But for the heck of it, I'll response to this. My account is under an email, therefore to lock this account and remove all of my post, it needs to be approved via this email or even via this account. So, to claim yourself to be an owner of an account without having the account's password or email would end in failure. There, you learn something new everyday.



The term "peaceful" would not apply to such actions. You can claim to be peaceful but your actions can state otherwise. You can claim to be anything and have that legally approved but if you're a murderer or an extremist, then no you're not as peaceful as you claim to be.



Nope, she claimed to be one and had some sort of surgery to her face and afterward attempted to legally change her classification into a pet or a cat. Don't praise me, I'm only stating the news, praise the girl, Scoob.


So she is still not a cat. Your point?
 

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So she is still not a cat. Your point?

You wanted to become a dog so badly, so I suggested that. Unless there's a magic wand available, then no, sadly you will not be able to turn into an actual dog. But I suggested another way for you to become a dog you so wanted to become, not physically, but legally maybe it is possible. You wanted to become a dog, and I presented an option. Whether she is a cat or not, you can be the judge, simply google it. Physically, she is far from one, but legally, she might finally be one. That's the point.
 

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You're a Muslim regardless what kind of sins you've committed, and why is that? Because legally, you're a Muslim. It doesn't matter whether you think of yourself as an atheist, a Christian or even a Hindu, if legally you're a Muslim then you are. By that logic, the Muslim population would be less than a billion because apparently once you've committed a sin, you're not a Muslim.

Legally Muslim? What kind of term is that? You're partially wrong, though. There are four sins that discredit Muslims' religion, they are: association with another God other than Allah, not performing the daily prayers, black magic (it falls with the first example) and blasphemy. These are the sins that discredit one's Islam, which are agreed upon by Islamic scholars and evidences can be found in Islamic official materials.

Moving on...the level of sin in Islam is divided to two things: major sins and minor sins.



On topic: Not surprised such thing have happened. They, like every religious fanatics before them, want to install fear upon mankind and will hit them at the things they hold dear.
 
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you think they are not muslims but they believe you are not a muslim. the problem is not wich one has the truth but what the belief is.

they believe that eeeverybody in the medina and the millions in mecca are corrupted muslims that shouldn't be walking on the holy land and that should be killed. it's just simple doesn't even need a damn debate.
there was also a bombing inside a mosque I don't remember where (but in an arab country I think, someone remind me if they remembrer) the bombing was in friday when LOTS of people were praying in the mosque, it was a butchery the images seemed like if they were coming from a SAW movie.
 

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Ah, I see, it is all about legality. So if a Chinese is born in Iceland, and has an Icelandic passport, even though he grows up in a Chinese community, he can't speak Icelandic, and calls himself Chinese, that is not true because he is actually Icelandic according to the government.

So even though he calls himself Chinese, he isn't Chinese, because legally he is Icelandic? Virtually all the counters you gave concern the "legality" of their claims. But then what happens to the validity of what he calls himself?

So who judges whether ISIS is muslim or not, the government/lawbook, the Quran, or the fact that they claim to be muslim themselves?

Because if I call myself a 10-weeks old transgender and the government approves it and therefore I am legally a 10-weeks old transgender, that is what I am.
Your logic is quite comical.
 
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Ah, I see, it is all about legality. So if a Chinese is born in Iceland, and has an Icelandic passport, even though he grows up in a Chinese community, he can't speak Icelandic, and calls himself Chinese, that is not true because he is actually Icelandic according to the government.

So even though he calls himself Chinese, he isn't Chinese, because legally he is Icelandic? Virtually all the counters you gave concern the "legality" of their claims. But then what happens to the validity of what he calls himself?

So who judges whether ISIS is muslim or not, the government/lawbook, the Quran, or the fact that they claim to be muslim themselves?

Because if I call myself a 10-weeks old transgender and the government approves it and therefore I am legally a 10-weeks old transgender, that is what I am.
Your logic is quite comical.

That person would be ethnically Chinese and a citizen of Iceland :)

As far as ISIS is concerned, they're considered Muslims because they claim to be Muslims. It's the same reason Joseph Kony and his Lords Resistance Group is considered a Christian militia even though they do not truly follow Christianity. See my point?

It's much easier to classify ISIS as a Muslim Terrorist Group because they claim to represent Muslims. Tell me, how else would you explain that ISIS isn't a Muslim group when ISIS claims to represent Muslims, is made up of Muslims and considers all Muslim-majority areas as part of their global 'Caliphate'.

Granted, the members of ISIS do not truly represent Islam but overall, they're still a Muslim group.
 
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