Students That Did Not Surpass Their Masters

[iKaras]

Current Kages are absolute ass to previous generations.

EX:
4th Raikage < 3rd Raikage
Tsunade <<< The rest of the Hokage plus whoever gonna be the sixth.
Mei << TrollKage
Oonoki << Muu
Garra <= His old Man but that's probably it.

 

[paratise]

Current Kages are absolute ass to previous generations.

EX:
4th Raikage < 3rd Raikage
Tsunade <<< The rest of the Hokage plus whoever gonna be the sixth.
Mei << TrollKage
Oonoki << Muu
Garra <= His old Man but that's probably it.

Gaara have clearly shown to be surpass his father man...

 

[iKaras]

Gaara have clearly shown to be surpass his father man...

I'll let you have that one but that's 1 out of 5. Still a F grade

 

[Denzel Washington]

Rin didn't surpass Minato

♪┏(・o･)┛♪

 

[ntel]

Konan was strong,her own Jutsu was pretty unique.But surpassing the Toad Sage and a Sannin?...Nagato has a Rinnegan no shit.

Tsunade has surpassed most ninja in medical jutsu including Hiruzen..thats what she specializes in.

kiba is just a mut fodder no body cares about lul

 

[Denzel Washington]

Konan was strong,her own Jutsu was pretty unique.But surpassing the Toad Sage and a Sannin?...Nagato has a Rinnegan no shit.

Tsunade has surpassed most ninja in medical jutsu including Hiruzen..thats what she specializes in.

kiba is just a mut fodder no body cares about lul

Man I'm tempted to sig that.

 

[Joshutsu]

If Tsunade didn't surpass Hiruzen then i fail to see how Jiraya and Orochimaru did. If we are going by hype. If we go the way of feats they obviously they all did.

You thread was rather rushed the list could be longer :T

 

[Joker]

If Tsunade didn't surpass Hiruzen then i fail to see how Jiraya and Orochimaru did. If we are going by hype. If we go the way of feats they obviously they all did.

You thread was rather rushed the list could be longer :T

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I'll wait until a similar thing is said about Tsunade, not to mention Jiraiya alone decimates Suna....
OT: Pretty much

 

[Joshutsu]

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I'll wait until a similar thing is said about Tsunade, not to mention Jiraiya alone decimates Suna....
OT: Pretty much

I said by hype, We all know Hiruzen's hype. So if you are going to try and not be logical then leave me be.

Tsunade's hype is that she can't be rivaled in combat so does that mean Hiruzen cannot test her?

She is also the queen of elixirs.

By feats all 3 of them surpassed him. By hype none of their hypes can test the god of shinobi/professor. Orochimaru would be the only to come close.

 

[To Whatever]

The K11 kids are still in their adolescence and are already high chuunin to mid jonin. Not to mention they've already developed their own unique justus. When they reach their sensei's ages they'd surpass them without a doubt.

The legendary Sannin surpassed their teachers in different categories.

Tsunade in medical ninjustu
The J-Man in Sage arts
Orochimaru in forbbiden techniques

Each of them have their own justus unique to themselves and/or students.

Raw power and skill doesn't automatically mean someone has surpassed them. It plays a large role but their ability to carry on their teachings and apply them to teach the younger generation is part of it.

Look at how successful the students of Hiruzen and the sannin are.

The Op is also doubting that Kiba/Akamaru game.

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I'll wait until a similar thing is said about Tsunade, not to mention Jiraiya alone decimates Suna....
OT: Pretty much

It isn't specified what Hiruzen means when he says power. We all know how Orochimaru operates and could probably pull strings to cause a small country to become pure chaos.

Orochimaru is one of the few people in the series that can cause a war and have no one know he was the one who started it

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade has surpassed hiruzen,
With her strength and seal, he'd be a fool to try her.

Sakura is iffy, she probably on Tsunade's level, but we haven't seen her fight yet

 

[To Whatever]

Tsunade has surpassed hiruzen,
With her strength and seal, he'd be a fool to try her.

Sakura is iffy, she probably on Tsunade's level, but we haven't seen her fight yet

You're confused. Not only does Tsunade have respect for her master, she wouldn't be fool enough to try him, His intel on her is greater than her intel on him, Despite being in the same squad, Hiruzen has justus shes never witnessed.

Yin Seals and monster strength isn't enough to curve the difficulty shes going to face fighting Hiruzen.

In medical ninjustu and strength, she has surpassed him.

Sakura lacks the KKG and skill to match Tsunade currently.

Until she comes up with something on her own she isn't going to surpass her teacher until shes well into her life. Like the other K11

 

[FemmeFatale]

You're confused. Not only does Tsunade have respect for her master, she wouldn't be fool enough to try him, His intel on her is greater than her intel on him, Despite being in the same squad, Hiruzen has justus shes never witnessed.

Yin Seals and monster strength isn't enough to curve the difficulty shes going to face fighting Hiruzen.

In medical ninjustu and strength, she has surpassed him.

Sakura lacks the KKG and skill to match Tsunade currently.

Until she comes up with something on her own she isn't going to surpass her teacher until shes well into her life. Like the other K11

Hiruzen can't do shit to Tsunade. Really, lol
He has intel on her strength, her regeneration is new to him.
What does he have in his arsenal that can take her down? He is the physical type,

Sakura will surpass Tsunade, because she has too. She is better at genjutsu than Tsunade seeing as how she is that type.
The fact that Sakura became so powerful so quickly is a big feat .

 

[Fair Warning]

Kakashi never surpassed Minato, Hiruzen never surpassed Tobirama,

 

[xcoyote]

Kakashi surpassed Minato.
Hiruzen left Tobirama in the dust.

 

[To Whatever]

Hiruzen can't do shit to Tsunade. Really, lol
He has intel on her strength, her regeneration is new to him.
What does he have in his arsenal that can take her down? He is the physical type,

Sakura will surpass Tsunade, because she has too. She is better at genjutsu than Tsunade seeing as how she is that type.
The fact that Sakura became so powerful so quickly is a big feat .

Hiruzen is more than capble of putting Tsunade down if they were to fight. For you to outright say that Hiruzen can't do anything against her shows that you ignore that her regeneration has limits. Given it's powerful enough to survive the teleportation but that was instant.

Tsunade, like everyone else has a pain tolerance. Just because she can tank high level justus does not mean she'd be fine. Tsunade would never attempt to tank Katon, Raiton, or doton. He'd either be torn apart or be in brief, sever amounts of pain.

Tsunade isn't a long ranged fighter and isn't as versatile as her teacher is. He can be physical or long ranged in an instant. She lacks the speed to close in on Hiruzen and with his summons and arsenal, would outlast him.

Her role in fighting Madara was support and tank. She was the one who gave the others openings by tanking the attacks he dished out and forced Madara to focus her rather than Oonoki.

Also, how would her regeneration be new intel on her when she's a Senju/Uzumaki and had that seal on her head during the time Hiruzen was alive, even Hashirama knew about her seal.

 

[Ovan]

Some people just can't be surpassed... It's not like the people you claimed in your post were directly trained in their teachers style.

 

[KingHashirama]

Can her mentor do Medical ninjutsu? doubtful.


Older generations are stronger than the newer ones. The newer one surpasses the older in ideology. Not sheer power.


However, Naruto /Sasuke/Sakura have all surpassed their mentors.

 

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Medical ninjutsu isn't his fighting skill can tsunade use all five nature type ? nope Sakura hasn't surpassed Tsunade has someone posted above unless she learn something that tsunade doesn't know she wouldn't surpass her for now. without CES Tsunade can lift Gamabunta's sword.

 

[KillerbYo]

The girl with the Oral *** Username neva cease to amaze me

U mean "the legendary sucker"?