[Discussion] Strongest person these people can defeat

[Venomous Cobra]

Do you also believe that Luffy is an 8 foot tall monster? The readers generally do know more than fodders in the series.

That was rumor not a direct statement, not to mention that it was wrong from the very start since luffy's bounty picture shows he is no monster, nor does he appear to be 8 foot tall in news papers. The same cannot be said about that panel though.

Speaking of bounties, sheephead is the one who introduced jack's bounty yet he was a fodder, I would gladly listen to how you calculated the bounty number before sheephead shared it/

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

That was rumor not a direct statement, not to mention that it was wrong from the very start since luffy's bounty picture shows he is no monster, nor does he appear to be 8 foot tall in news papers. The same cannot be said about that panel though.

Speaking of bounties, sheephead is the one who introduced jack's bounty yet he was a fodder, I would gladly listen to how you calculated the bounty number before sheephead shared it/

Lmfao this is so dumb. You're comparing a Marine fodder saying that Mihawk's slash was his strongest to Jack's own subordinate saying something as factual as what Jack's bounty is. That fodder has never seen Mihawk fight before so idk why you would trust him.

 

[-Akuma-]

So what? Tsuru and Sengoku weren't there and had no idea what he could do. Doflamingo's own people were unaware of some of his powers, including Viola, who literally sees everything in the country. It's not farfetched that Tsuru and Sengoku don't know everything about Doffy, and they certainly didn't know everything about Luffy. Their confidence is just as baseless as Doffy's.



Gear 2 and 3 bruised Fujitora when Fujitora was using just his physical strength and had him panting and pushed him backwards. Meanwhile, the same Gears were too weak for Doflamingo. This shows that Fujitora is physically inferior to Doflamingo.

Don't use that shading on Fuji as a bruise. I was agreeing with everything you said up until then.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Don't use that shading on Fuji as a bruise. I was agreeing with everything you said up until then.

That shit is either bruising dirt. Doesn't matter anyways, he's panting.

 

[-Akuma-]

So basically the new excuses are

> Fujitora is physically inferior to Doflamingo(when he blocked Doflamingo's kick without even trying, blocked Sabo's fire kick while coming at full force, who has the physical strength to match if not best a powerhouse like Burgess, and so on, but hey let's ignore)
> Zoro couldn't react to Yeti Cool Brothers(when he was careless and caught off-guard, with Sanji also being among the mass, but hey let's ignore it) and Carrot(that he actually blocked)
> Sanji could have pushed Fujitora back(ignoring that someone of comparable physical stats in Law was blocked by a weaker gravity)
> Zoro would be immobilized by Doflamingo's finger strings(they are apparently stronger than Fujitora's gravity now)

The circus keeps on getting amusing by the second

At this point, i can even add mine

> Hyouzou was physically stronger and faster than Doflamingo(he could react to gear2 that was blitzing DD and with the white transformation he was countless times stronger)
> Monet was faster than Doflamingo(she could block Luffy mid gear2 gatling, when Doflamingo couldn't react to a bazooka)
> Pica was physically stronger than Doflamingo too(because why not?)

If Jozu was stopped by the strings Zoro would be.

 

[-Akuma-]

That shit is either bruising dirt. Doesn't matter anyways, he's panting.

He panted after talking with Akainu. Luffy without G4 isn't that strong, stop it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

He panted after talking with Akainu. Luffy without G4 isn't that strong, stop it.

There's a difference between panting because you were yelling and because of battle.

 

[Bogard]

If Jozu was stopped by the strings Zoro would be.

When caught off-guard and not for long.
I believe Jozu could have broken free
Oda didn't make it relevant against Luffy and Law until Luffy was physically exhausted
I don't believe Oda would make it relevant against Zoro either

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Lmfao this is so dumb. You're comparing a Marine fodder saying that Mihawk's slash was his strongest to Jack's own subordinate saying something as factual as what Jack's bounty is.

What determines factuality of "fodders" words?in your earlier post you haven;t even made any exception, just straight up BS about how fodders words shouldn't count.

That fodder has never seen Mihawk fight before so idk why you would trust him.

Oda gives info through his characters, whether they are true or false, they are not intended to be ignored, until proven false this statement is true

 

[-Akuma-]

There's a difference between panting because you were yelling and because of battle.

Not in this case mainly because of what Luffy actually said to Fuji. Luffy without G4 isn't pushing a Admiral like that, it's not rocket science.

 

[-Akuma-]

When caught off-guard and not for long.
I believe Jozu could have broken free
Oda didn't make it relevant against Luffy and Law until Luffy was physically exhausted
I don't believe Oda would make it relevant against Zoro either

I think he would have gotten out but Jozu is way above Zoro in terms of physical strength. Oda made it relevant against Sanji and tired to do it Luffy if DD was to use it Zoro is done. Seeing how we're putting him and Sanji's situation he would use it most likely.

 

[Bogard]

Fuji was never pushed by Luffy's g2 in the first place. He was simply defending while going backwards

I think he would have gotten out but Jozu is way above Zoro in terms of physical strength. Oda made it relevant against Sanji and tired to do it Luffy if DD was to use it Zoro is done. Seeing how we're putting him and Sanji's situation he would use it most likely.

I do think Jozu has greater physical strength, but i'm not sure about the way above thingy. With the pacing of the manga and Zoro's usual portrayal strength, he may not be that far from yonko commanders in terms of physical strength. He can already cut through mountains after all(and physical strength plays a major part into this).

In Sanji's situation we have to take into consideration the point where his high end attacks couldn't move DD an inch back when a one handed slash could push a superior opponent back(and yes he is physically superior to DD too).

Oda portrayed Zoro to be capable to break free from a stronger gravity than a one that pinned someone as physically strong as Law down(he could contend with Smoker and block DD's overheat that could shake the sunny). I don't believe that gravity was weaker than DD's fingers. Sanji may have been immobilized by it, but he is physically weaker than Zoro. Tired Luffy is also physically weaker than Zoro.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Fuji was never pushed by Luffy's g2 in the first place. He was simply defending while going backwards

Lmaoooo now THIS is an excuse. Why would Fujitora go backwards if he could stop Luffy and stay stationary like Doflamingo did to him and Sanji?

 

[-Akuma-]

Fuji was never pushed by Luffy's g2 in the first place. He was simply defending while going backwards

I do think Jozu has greater physical strength, but i'm not sure about the way above thingy. With the pacing of the manga and Zoro's usual portrayal strength, he may not be that far from yonko commanders in terms of physical strength. He can already cut through mountains after all(and physical strength plays a major part into this).

In Sanji's situation we have to take into consideration the point where his high end attacks couldn't move DD an inch back when a one handed slash could push a superior opponent back(and yes he is physically superior to DD too).

Oda portrayed Zoro to be capable to break free from a stronger gravity than a one that pinned someone as physically strong as Law down(he could contend with Smoker and block DD's overheat that could shake the sunny). I don't believe that gravity was weaker than DD's fingers. Sanji may have been immobilized by it, but he is physically weaker than Zoro. Tired Luffy is also physically weaker than Zoro.

Jozu has shown exceptional physical strength more than the average person around his tier, his iceberg feat is easily the best physical strength feat in this manga and if you looked at the position of where he threw it makes better.


Fuji was pushed back because he was caught off guard.

I don't think breaking the gravity was Law's problem, Fujitora was sitting right next to him and the second he struggled Fujitora would have done something. While the problem isn't DD's fingers it the strength, if it was a matter of pure strenth Jozu would have easily broke the strings. Doesn't matter if Zoro is stronger physically than Sanji and a tired Luffy because Zoro is below Jozu.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

What determines factuality of "fodders" words?in your earlier post you haven;t even made any exception, just straight up BS about how fodders words shouldn't count.


Oda gives info through his characters, whether they are true or false, they are not intended to be ignored, until proven false this statement is true

I said their opinions alone aren't reliable. Answer me this, how is the fodder's opinion on that slash reliable when he's never seen Mihawk fight?. Mihawk wasn't even using both hands for that attack.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I said their opinions alone aren't reliable. Answer me this, how is the fodder's opinion on that slash reliable when he's never seen Mihawk fight?. Mihawk wasn't even using both hands for that attack.

You said sheephead's statement was factual and no he hadn''t seen it but the fact he said it added to mihawk's desire to test the difference between his and WB's power with that slash solidifies the statement. Why would mihawk hold back if he wants to test the difference with only one slash? Again, the statement is just as factual as sheephead's declare of jack being a calamity or bounty, it can be proven false but for now it isn't.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

You said sheephead's statement was factual and no he hadn''t seen it but the fact he said it added to mihawk's desire to test the difference between his and WB's power with that slash solidifies the statement. Why would mihawk hold back if he wants to test the difference with only one slash? Again, the statement is just as factual as sheephead's declare of jack being a calamity or bounty, it can be proven false but for now it isn't.

Wtf is this? A person's bounty isn't subjective, unlike what a person's strongest attack is. Not to mention that Sheepshead is more reliable than some random fodder that doesn't know anything about Mihawk's strength. Come on dude, Mihawk wasn't even using both hands.... Clearly that wasn't his strongest attack.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Zoro would've lost to Pica if he hadn't went back in the golem.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Wtf is this? A person's bounty isn't subjective, unlike what a person's strongest attack is. Not to mention that Sheepshead is more reliable than some random fodder that doesn't know anything about Mihawk's strength. Come on dude, Mihawk wasn't even using both hands.... Clearly that wasn't his strongest attack.

How do you know that was subjective? And no, it's pretty stupid for him to hold back when he knows that WB is above him and is trying to know the difference between their power with ones slash. Also using two hands is not nesscarily less efficient than using one, just look at the moment he cut aokiji's iceberg and compare it to his "strongest slash " and there's barely a difference. Plus you still hadn't gave me a reason for the quote would even be there if that wasn't the case

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

How do you know that was subjective? And no, it's pretty stupid for him to hold back when he knows that WB is above him and is trying to know the difference between their power with ones slash. Also using two hands is not nesscarily less efficient than using one,

He doesn't need to use his strongest attack to test the difference between him and WB. Come on dude, using two hands instead of one hand for the same attack would obviously make it more powerful. That's just common sense.