Strongest opponent Sakura can defeat

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I don't have time for this nonsense.

Because only his hands were shown. Can't you use your brain? He wasn't fully shown till Hirudora was used

His arms where shown as well, the aura was ONLY around his hands.
 

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His arms where shown as well, the aura was ONLY around his hands.

Explain to me why he opens the Gates which involves him going through Pain each time he wants to use those techniques when he can just use it while in base?

Until you show me a scan showing base Gai in full using it, you're wrong. I can decide to the same, he had no aura around him except his hands when he was using it here
 

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Explain to me why he opens the Gates which involves him going through Pain each time he wants to use those techniques when he can just use it while in base?

Until you show me a scan showing base Gai in full using it, you're wrong. I can decide to the same, he had no aura around him except his hands when he was using it here

Hirudora itself also exhausts himself, as it breaks his limits. He does not need gates to use it though. As proven against Madara.
 

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Well, imo she could beat the following S-level characters:

1) Hidan.
2) Konan.
3) Sasori.
4) Kakuzu.
5) Mei.
6) Ay.
7) Hiruzen.
8) Gai (stalemate if he goes for the 8th gate).
9) Tsunade.

...and anyone below. These are the most relevant.

Please get shot
 

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, , , , , . Used it plenty of times. So yes, he lobs her head off.

Also, a punch or elbow to the fact will do severe damage (like snapping her head back) and knock Sakura out temporarily, which would basically give Ei the win as well, as he can do anything he wants from there.

Where are the heads rolling though? ._.

Of those six links, only one actually shows him cutting something, his own arm, and it wasn't in a battle scenario. I already explained before why the Hachibi's horn situation doesn't convince me.
He never chopped anything in battle, he always punches and uses his strenght to harm his opponent.
Just because he strikes with his hand in a chopping motion it doesn't mean he's actually trying to cut something. Everytime his hand touched something, that something either cracked, got broken or remained unscathed.

So, he breaks her neck, she recovers a few seconds after, and he already won just because her neck was temporarily broken?
He can do all he wants. It doesn't matter if she can recover.

His alternative would be chopping her head off. That will be the second or third thing he would do. It won't take long.

Assuming he can chop heads off, which i strongly disagree for reasons mentioned before.

Yes this only proves my point. Refer to my two spoilers. When he used Hirudora on Madara, he did not activate the 7th Gate, as a matter of fact, the aura was only around his hands.

I just posted the link where he activates the 7th gate before using Hirudora, and you're still denying this...
 

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Hirudora itself also exhausts himself, as it breaks his limits. He does not need gates to use it though. As proven against Madara.

Maaaaaannnn are you this stubborn???????????????????????

I've shown you a scan of him forced to go through Pain(open the gates) in order to use Hirudora and a weaker technique.

You resorted to the fact that he had no Aura around his arms even though he's full body wasn't shown in that scan at all..even so, I showed you a scan of him using Hirudora with no Aura around his body despite the gates being open and you're still arguing. Learn to admit when you're wrong buddy...It doesn't kill and you won't look stupid.
 

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From about Sakura could beat 7th gate guy to whether Guy can use hirudara in base? Sakura fans have turned you all against each other! lol Sakura is not pushing Guy past 5 gates if that. A Blitz with a Kunai from 3rd/4th gate is more then enough.
 

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From about Sakura could beat 7th gate guy to whether Guy can use hirudara in base? Sakura fans have turned you all against each other! lol Sakura is not pushing Guy past 5 gates if that. A Blitz with a Kunai from 3rd/4th gate is more then enough.

Gai stomps Sakura. I don't even know why they're trying to go that far.
 

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Gai stomps Sakura. I don't even know why they're trying to go that far.

I think most of them are just trying to say she out last everyone rather then actually defeat them.
 

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Sakura can't beat Guy because her body isn't durable enough to withstand the Hirudora. The regeneration isn't helping her in this case.
 

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Maaaaaannnn are you this stubborn???????????????????????

I've shown you a scan of him forced to go through Pain(open the gates) in order to use Hirudora and a weaker technique.

You resorted to the fact that he had no Aura around his arms even though he's full body wasn't shown in that scan at all..even so, I showed you a scan of him using Hirudora with no Aura around his body despite the gates being open and you're still arguing. Learn to admit when you're wrong buddy...It doesn't kill and you won't look stupid.

Showing a scan of Gai going into the gates before using Hirudora proves nothing. Every single time he has went into the 7th gate it has been shown, name and all. Him using Hirudora without the aura specifically around his hands also does not disapprove my point.

All you have stated was a bunch of irrelevent points, you have yet to prove me wrong. I admit I am wrong when someone proves me wrong.

Where are the heads rolling though? ._.

Of those six links, only one actually shows him cutting something, his own arm, and it wasn't in a battle scenario. I already explained before why the Hachibi's horn situation doesn't convince me.
He never chopped anything in battle, he always punches and uses his strenght to harm his opponent.
Just because he strikes with his hand in a chopping motion it doesn't mean he's actually trying to cut something. Everytime his hand touched something, that something either cracked, got broken or remained unscathed.

Yes because he attempted to chop SUSANOO, that does not change the fact that he attempted to chop something, and he will do it against Sakura. If your seriously claiming that Ei would not be capable of chopping off Sakuras head you must be out of your mind. The fact that he cracked Susanoo with his chop means Sakuras head is coming off. His chopping motion is a piercing attack. Unlike a punch which is a blunt force attack.

So, he breaks her neck, she recovers a few seconds after, and he already won just because her neck was temporarily broken?
He can do all he wants. It doesn't matter if she can recover.

He breaks her neck and then he proceeds to stomp on her face while she's on the ground recovering, it won't be pretty. That's just from a punch or elbow attack though, a chop cuts her head off.


Assuming he can chop heads off, which i strongly disagree for reasons mentioned before.

Your reasons are fallacious. Your saying just because he has not chopped off a head before means he can't, yet we have instances of him cracking Susanoo, Sakura is not more durable then Susanoo, especially not the weakest part of her body. Even Ei's hand or Hachibi's tail are more durable then Sakuras neck.

I just posted the link where he activates the 7th gate before using Hirudora, and you're still denying this...

I claim Gai can use Hirudora in base. I show a scan of him using it without activating the gates, and without having an aura around his entire body like he does every single time he enters the 7th gate. Then you show me him activating the 7th gate before using Hirudora, THIS PROVES NOTHING and does not disappear my point in anyway. If Madara used Katon within a Susanoo does that mean he can't use it outside of Susanoo? Geez.
 

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Showing a scan of Gai going into the gates before using Hirudora proves nothing. Every single time he has went into the 7th gate it has been shown, name and all. Him using Hirudora without the aura specifically around his hands also does not disapprove my point.

All you have stated was a bunch of irrelevant points, you have yet to prove me wrong. I admit I am wrong when someone proves me wrong.

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You're a waste of time...you should be lucky getting replies from others.

Disprove my points then...you've not given an explanation to why he had no aura when he used it while in the gates.

An explanation for why he has to go through pain when using the techniques. Damn this is frustrating.

@bold. I hope you have eyes?
 

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From about Sakura could beat 7th gate guy to whether Guy can use hirudara in base? Sakura fans have turned you all against each other! lol Sakura is not pushing Guy past 5 gates if that. A Blitz with a Kunai from 3rd/4th gate is more then enough.
I actually attempted to prove that Sakura can beat 5th gate Gai and Evani agreed it would be a good match ( ). Throwing blitz around is pretty dumb especially coming from the guy who hates it when Sasuke/Kakashi/Itachi/Minato fans resort to speed blitzing. Not to mention the manga has shown characters can react to others far faster than themselves. Furthermore Gai using kunai in gates is out of character, I may as well say Sakura summons Katsuyu and goes on top to force him to use 6th gate.
 

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You're a waste of time...you should be lucky getting replies from others.

Disprove my points then...you've not given an explanation to why he had no aura when he used it while in the gates.

An explanation for why he has to go through pain when using the techniques. Damn this is frustrating.

@bold. I hope you have eyes?

Given the quality of your posts, I am amazed your talking.

Him not having aura around his hands means NOTHING as he had aura around his entire body. It looked like he did not have aura from that perspective because he was in water, yet he can see that he does in fact have aura.

Already told you that he feels exhaustion when using Hirudora.

So now that I countered your argument, are you going to stop ignoring mine?
 

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Yes because he attempted to chop SUSANOO, that does not change the fact that he attempted to chop something, and he will do it against Sakura. If your seriously claiming that Ei would not be capable of chopping off Sakuras head you must be out of your mind. The fact that he cracked Susanoo with his chop means Sakuras head is coming off. His chopping motion is a piercing attack. Unlike a punch which is a blunt force attack.

No, he tried to smash it all the time. Why do you think Onoki was on his back?
The only punches who're obliterating a head in this manga are Gai's (8th gate) and maybe Sakura's (given how she managed to harm Kaguya it doesn't seem weird).
Ay is not one of those. He brakes bones, doesn't rip limbs off. Hell, Tsunade who's stronger and can break a Susanoo on her own, punched Orochimaru square in the face and the only thing out of place was his mask.

He breaks her neck and then he proceeds to stomp on her face while she's on the ground recovering, it won't be pretty. That's just from a punch or elbow attack though, a chop cuts her head off.

Because this is real life where he won't stop until there's a puddle of ketchup on the ground and characters get rip apart everytime they get a chance...
If that was Kishi's logic then some fights in Naruto would be really boring to see. For example, Gai goes gates (doesn't matter how many, he's already faster in base), grabs a kunai and shunshins for Kisame's neck. GG, no re. But that's not how it works.

Your reasons are fallacious. Your saying just because he has not chopped off a head before means he can't, yet we have instances of him cracking Susanoo, Sakura is not more durable then Susanoo, especially not the weakest part of her body. Even Ei's hand or Hachibi's tail are more durable then Sakuras neck.

Trust me, i'm not that guy. I already explained why i can't picture him cutting whoever it is.
I repeat, he never cut anything in the midst of a battle. He doesn't even have a piercing or cutting jutsu.

Kisame's body (w/ or w/o water in the middle) isn't as durable as Susanoo either and his body wasn't torn apart after getting hit by Hirudora, now was it?
Mei's mist was capable of melting Susanoo, yet Sasuke's arm didn't start to melt and fall off, it got burnt instead. Does that mean his body > Susanoo?
Kishi doesn't draw everything to the scale.

I claim Gai can use Hirudora in base. I show a scan of him using it without activating the gates, and without having an aura around his entire body like he does every single time he enters the 7th gate. Then you show me him activating the 7th gate before using Hirudora, THIS PROVES NOTHING and does not disappear my point in anyway. If Madara used Katon within a Susanoo does that mean he can't use it outside of Susanoo? Geez.

Don't Madara to Gai. Susanoo, Katon and the Gates have literally nothing to do with eachother.
What exactly did you show? Where's the scan?... Nevermind about that. Why does he always open the 7th gate then? To get tired?
Your theory makes no sense and goes against the manga. Its not like discussing over whether or not Gai can use Hirudora will lead anywhere. Just let it go or make a thread about it.
 

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I actually attempted to prove that Sakura can beat 5th gate Gai and Evani agreed it would be a good match ( ). Throwing blitz around is pretty dumb especially coming from the guy who hates it when Sasuke/Kakashi/Itachi/Minato fans resort to speed blitzing. Not to mention the manga has shown characters can react to others far faster than themselves. Furthermore Gai using kunai in gates is out of character, I may as well say Sakura summons Katsuyu and goes on top to force him to use 6th gate.

Gai doesn't use Shunshin, every thing he does is Taijutsu base and with pure speed and Raw power. Sasuke/Minato/itachi and the like cannot spam what Guy does naturally. Big difference. And when it does to Tsuna and Sakura/Hidan type of Ninjas Why waist time trying to harm them once you see what they're all about (Madara eventually split Tsunade in have once he was done playing with her). Guy uses Kunai and he uses Speed and raw power (Tsunade and Hidan have reaction and speed feats to argue with more so then Sakura, so its a different matter with them 2). The beginning Gates is more then enough for someone like Sakura who has no real Reaction Feats or rather speed feats to match him.

But I was mainly joking with Sakura going down fast, I was more so saying 6/7 gate isn't needed since it would be overkill.
 

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Given the quality of your posts, I am amazed your talking.


You really have problems Lol

Him not having aura around his hands means NOTHING as he had aura around his entire body. It looked like he did not have aura from that perspective because he was in water, yet he can see that he does in fact have aura.
This is the dumbest post I've seen so far.

Aura this, Aura that. Completely irrelevant when here he had no aura on his hand but had around his body. You're trying to take advantage of the drawings Lol. You're not smart if you think so.

Not to mention, this isn't aura around his hand . That's the form of a tiger being released.

If you're going by the fact that he had to have aura around him before using his techniques, you're wrong

Gai in the 6th gate using Asakujaku with no aura

Gai in the 6th gates using asakujaku with Aura around him


Already told you that he feels exhaustion when using Hirudora.

No relevance

So now that I countered your argument, are you going to stop ignoring mine?

There's nothing to ignore when you haven't brought anything reasonable to the table. You're clearly wrong
 
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