Strongest genjustsu

[jordan1]

I belive izanagi is said to be the strongest and kotoamasukami then tsukuyomi you deside which?

 

[Ryuu..]

Kotoamatsukami because its so subtle, you just control your opponent without them knowing. Like what Tobi was doing to Yaguro, its just so simple but so effective.

 

[jordan1]

yes but izanagi can bring back from the dead

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

yes but izanagi can bring back from the dead

no it doesn't ! it casts a Genjutsu on the user himself , so the wounds or even death he recieves for a certain amount of time is Rewritten as a dream !
- Kotoamatsukami Is the strongest Genjutsu ! but personally i prefer Tsukuyomi !

 

[Sharingdork]

yes but izanagi can bring back from the dead

not true. Izanagi brings back the user, not just any random dead. and it has to be active before the user dies, so the user basically has to be able to anticipate when they can't properly counter a technique to activate Izanagi so they don't waste eyes. Danzo got away with it because he had 10 eyes (11 if you count Shisui's he wasn't planning to use). It also requires Sharingan and Senju (possibly just Hashirama) DNA to use.

Honestly, I think Koto is better, because if you can control your opponent, there's no need for Izanagi.

 

[jordan1]

izanagi is the strongest read

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[Ryuu..]

izanagi is the strongest read

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What don't you understand; with kotoamatsukami the person won't even be attacking you when you're done with them. Hell, they'll probably be fighting with you.

 

[jordan1]

IT is so powerfull it was forbidden

 

[jordan1]

What don't you understand; with kotoamatsukami the person won't even be attacking you when you're done with them. Hell, they'll probably be fighting with you.

true but i would rather izanagi

 

[Sharingdork]

true but i would rather izanagi

Izanagi seals the eyes away, and requires the Senju DNA to use in the first place. If you can use Koto, and can get the DNA you need, you can use it over and over and over and over.

 

[jordan1]

yes but what if you do not have the dna you would have to wait a ddecade izanagi was made for the use of a last resort

 

[Sharingdork]

yes but what if you do not have the dna you would have to wait a ddecade izanagi was made for the use of a last resort

If you dont' have teh DNA, you can't use Izanagi in the first place.

 

[kuramaitachdara]

depends how u define the strongest lol strongest like meaning against an opponent or strongest as in the level of genjutsu itself? the most powerful as far as for the level is izanagi since it uses ying and yang for making dream reality (in it's full form that So6P used)
others are combat genjutsus of almost equal level and highly difficult. tho FULL form of izanagi is the most powerful in terms of power behind it (not affaecting the opponent)

 

[FloriGlori]

The strongest ilussion is not necessarily the most efficient one.

Tsukuyomi was said to be the strongest Genjutsu there is. It indeed is - space, time and matter inside that ilussion are completely controlled by the user. The victim will be tortured for 72 hours or even longer, while in reality only an instant passes. It's less efficint than Koto Amatsukami, which can enter the enemy's mind and practically wins every battle, yet its 'power', 'effort' or 'strength' just can't be compared to Tsukuyomi. At least that's what I think. It can also be used only once in a decade.

Izanagi.. hm, yes. It was called the ultimate Genjutsu, and I'm convinced it is - controlling the space between fantasy and reality and pretty incredible. But the price of that power is even bigger than the power itself.

 

[Ryuu..]

If you dont' have teh DNA, you can't use Izanagi in the first place.

This. Just. This.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Izanagi. It can you back from death.

 

[jordan1]

yes I meant level of genjustsu when I said strongest and koto would be second

 

[kuramaitachdara]

not true. Izanagi brings back the user, not just any random dead. and it has to be active before the user dies, so the user basically has to be able to anticipate when they can't properly counter a technique to activate Izanagi so they don't waste eyes. Danzo got away with it because he had 10 eyes (11 if you count Shisui's he wasn't planning to use). It also requires Sharingan and Senju (possibly just Hashirama) DNA to use.

Honestly, I think Koto is better, because if you can control your opponent, there's no need for Izanagi.

but it's not about the most useful in combat but the strongest so i think all of them are strongest considering different uses. Tsukuyomi for actuall fights. Koto for strong opponent (extremely powerful) but the strongest of all is fully developed Izanagi since it could be used by So6P to create world and stuff and ying and yang is involved(Uchiha's reviving isnt all of its power)

 

[kuramaitachdara]

The strongest ilussion is not necessarily the most efficient one.

Tsukuyomi was said to be the strongest Genjutsu there is. It indeed is - space, time and matter inside that ilussion are completely controlled by the user. The victim will be tortured for 72 hours or even longer, while in reality only an instant passes. It's less efficint than Koto Amatsukami, which can enter the enemy's mind and practically wins every battle, yet the 'power' or 'effort' just can't be compared to Tsukuyomi. It can also be used only once in a decade.

Izanagi.. hm, yes. It was called the ultimate Genjutsu, and I'm convinced it is - controlling the space between fantasy and reality and pretty incredible, too. But the price of that power is even bigger.

yes, indeed but it doesn't have to cost if ur trully master of it. that's why it's the most powerful. because it can;t just simply be activated by the Mangekyo user. it has to be mastered. what uchiha have is just a little bit of waht they managed to use just for the revive purpose. they weren't able to exploit any more of it

 

[Sharingdork]

but it's not about the most useful in combat but the strongest so i think all of them are strongest considering different uses. Tsukuyomi for actuall fights. Koto for strong opponent (extremely powerful) but the strongest of all is fully developed Izanagi since it could be used by So6P to create world and stuff and ying and yang is involved(Uchiha's reviving isnt all of its power)

You realize Izanagi is just a really weak version of what the Sage used, not exactly what he used. The Sage could apply this jutsu to empty space to do whatever he wanted, while Izanagi can't leave the user themselves.