it doesn't matter because in the end they are even. they are both edos and level each other. at the end it will be a 4 vs 1 so mardara can proof his superiority and eventually loose. we will se a big fight ... fair enough.
strongest edo is obvious now
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Edo Hashi has yet to show his strength, dont count him out yet guys, i wouldnt say madara is CURRENTLY the strong, without Edo Hashi yes he was, but now along with those 3 Edos of Kages, Madara is quite "under-whelm"....
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Hashi has Senju mode, and ShunsuuSenju, Madara is gonna be bch slapped by thounsands of hands soon enough if Hashi goes in the battlefield.
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Hashi. and madara were almost equal in every fight.. True.
Madara and hashirama fight almost equally. Madara got PS, and we can assume as always hashi. is the last man standing.
BUT Last fight in the VOTE madara bring 9tail to fight hashirama.. weirdly hashirama can defend him self in that fight. He even push back the bijuu bomb and make it like rasengan. Probably hashi. was a little better as always, How can that be? With kurama on madara's side they are about even match, But without kurama just PS still hashi. is a "little" better? impossible.. cuz 9tail is not = PS (Maybe the reason is hashi. didn't intend to kill madara he just defend him self but he could kill madara, when you look at itachi vs sasuke. sasuke seem slightly the stronger one, even without MS. But that doesn't mean sasuke > itachi CUZ itachi let him win)
When kurama + PS we can see madara had the upper hand, If that fight gose on Hashi. will lose no doubt.
Hashi. use sage mode and the giant buddha statue with thousand hand. We don't see that fight yet. What if "that" was madara's nightmare. Not the day that that they had a constance fight.
Madara and hashirama fight almost equally. Madara got PS, and we can assume as always hashi. is the last man standing.
BUT Last fight in the VOTE madara bring 9tail to fight hashirama.. weirdly hashirama can defend him self in that fight. He even push back the bijuu bomb and make it like rasengan. Probably hashi. was a little better as always, How can that be? With kurama on madara's side they are about even match, But without kurama just PS still hashi. is a "little" better? impossible.. cuz 9tail is not = PS (Maybe the reason is hashi. didn't intend to kill madara he just defend him self but he could kill madara, when you look at itachi vs sasuke. sasuke seem slightly the stronger one, even without MS. But that doesn't mean sasuke > itachi CUZ itachi let him win)
When kurama + PS we can see madara had the upper hand, If that fight gose on Hashi. will lose no doubt.
Hashi. use sage mode and the giant buddha statue with thousand hand. We don't see that fight yet. What if "that" was madara's nightmare. Not the day that that they had a constance fight.
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these madara fanboys never learn. its sad really that all of their arguments are made entirely of lame excuses that contradict the manga while the "hashirama fanboys" weirdly can always post manga pages that prove hashirama>madara without fail, 100% of the time.
hashiramas shinsuusenju>Perfect susano>>>>>madaras half-assed mokuton & 2 rinnegan techs.
hashiramas shinsuusenju>Perfect susano>>>>>madaras half-assed mokuton & 2 rinnegan techs.
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Madara was talking in the sense that Hashirama was the only one to beat him, EVER..
Plus , He was saying it to DEMORALIZE the 5 kages.
You all forget Madara Has METEOR(its too big)much bigger than hashi's thousand hands right?
Madara is DECEPTIVE, he says things for others, Madara wasn't fighting with his head vs Hashirama
Madara has Meteor, Perfect Susano'o Clones, Beyond Prime Rinnegan, Hashi almost at full power
Hashirama broke Edo which consisted of his own cells, HIS cells , & Oro was caught OFF guard,
Madara broke Edo an easier way, it seems just by knowing the seal...he didn't have to power up like Hashi did.
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Fuk This shit. any1 with brain knows if Minato is set loose he is the strongest edo in the world.Madara is Edo'd BEYOND his PRIME
Tobirama said were are ALMOST at full power
Madara and Hashi were almost even yet because Madara fought him blindly
and emotionally, he lost quicker than her would if he fought smart.....
now Madara fights with Rinnegan...he is the strongest.maybe.
Minato has FTG so no1 can catch him
Minato is the most skilled sealing jutsu users , infact all his moves are realted to some sort of seal. and the fact edo warrior can only be sealed to defeat hence minato will have no difficulty sealing them. P.S even a fodder lee could manage to kick madara so It wont be any problem for the fastest ninja in world to touch and seal him.
Minato has the most battle genious mind and he can easily outwit any1 in the entire narutoverse.
P.S minato already defeated the world's strongest villaine Tobi in the most difficult condition imaginable so it wont be a big deal to fight fodder like madara now.
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he will have to mark and throw something first and u can predict where he will throw it,
and lead him into a trap, also you could catch his kunai and throw it back or sumthing
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you talk as if Madara got new powers that can beat shinsuusenju. according to Madara himself, his full power is
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which Hashirama already stomped. in other words, Madara is completely helpless against Hashirama, since his full power + kyuubi already lost. Hashirama rapes any forms of Madara.
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Wrong. Madara said that Hashirama is the only one who can stop him, and then went on to say "but he's not in this world anymore" That means he meant present tense and you simply saying Madara was lying doesn't mean squat since you have no evidence to back it up. Go look at what they've shown us so far. The only thing Madara has shown that can take on Shinsuusenju is Perfect Susanoo.
Lmao. Shinsuusenju towers over Mountains. Meteor wasn't even as big as a Mountain and it wasn't as big as Perfect Susanoo which is around Mountain Size. Shinsuusenju dwarfs that meteor.
Why you making up abilities for Madara? He CAN'T. make Perfect Susanoo clones.
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NO he doesn't. Mada has Hashi DNA, & Hashi jutsu, Susano'o clones...HE IS BEYOND PRIME.
that was then, this is now. Hashi aint at full power.
he can still make susano'o clones though XD , plus he has hashi dna & abilities...
he can think like hashi if he wants to I bet, like zetsu has his personality...
also he can absorb chakra quality from the juubi (rinnegan & hashi dna)
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25 Susanoo clones are fodder in the face of Shinsuusenju. His Mokuton is fodder level compared to Shinsuusenju anyway.
Zetsu has his cells not his personality.
Absorb chakra from the Juubi? No he can't.
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My point still stands..why would Madara knowing he possessed PS go after some extra power up to fight Hashirama? The answer is simple and logical because he knew there was a gap. I don't care if kurama counts as his tool or not the point is he went for a power up to try and even the odds against hashi but that didn't help. The 1st still won.
foxyladyland
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Zetsu acted like Hashi acted kinda when obito was down in that cave. being silly you know.
kinda acted like madara too maybe??? Rinnegan abilities with obito can where juubi down.
go back and look at that fight and see how level headed madara was...
he wasn't thinking straight, he was emotional and angered like vegeta when F.Trunks was killed by Cell..
he was fighting blindly, and full of rage.
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What Rinnegan abilities has he shown that can wear Hashirama down?
Preta Path stops him from using Susanoo and he needs PS to stand against Shinsuusenjuu.
Meteor is blocked by Shinsuusenjuu.
Until he shows us the extent of his other Rinnegan techs we can't use them in debate as we don't know where the power of the tech caps at.
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Madara has Hashirama's dna? how laughable, you almost made it sound like that actually would make any different...
Susanoo clones get stomped by 1 shinsuusenju
if Madara's full power (Perfect sussanoo) can't beat it, then none of his other techs' can. this has already been stated by madara himself.
Hashirama rapes.