[VS] Strawhats Crew VS Yonko Shanks

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There is no effort in these threads.

Besides that both fights you set up are imbalanced as hell. Zoro and Sanji against an admiral, the SH's against a yonkou. Haven't we just seen what Big Mom does with rookies ?

If you're not going to spend time making some kind of effort in these threads, have an introduction, explain your thoughts, don't bother post them at all. Versus threads already are horrible as they are, but you're just posting them as if you're running a simulation and have other people do the work for you.
 

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There is no effort in these threads.

Besides that both fights you set up are imbalanced as hell. Zoro and Sanji against an admiral, the SH's against a yonkou. Haven't we just seen what Big Mom does with rookies ?

If you're not going to spend time making some kind of effort in these threads, have an introduction, explain your thoughts, don't bother post them at all. Versus threads already are horrible as they are, but you're just posting them as if you're running a simulation and have other people do the work for you.
I'm gonna defend him a little bit but what he's trying to imply is that Luffy is going to fight Kaido towards the end of the next arc and he's already dubbed as the 5th Yonko. Now we know Luffy has a long way to go especially working on mastering his DF (awakens) so that he can preserve stamina etc and he needs to complete his whole crew so that they all can come together against higher level threats.

Besides that by hype he holds a high standard since he beat a Yonko First Mate who's suppose to have the strongest family crew, so by taking out Dogtooth (katakuri) which is the Yonko Whitebeard version equivalent to Marco, the next level Luffy should be compared to is hypothetically a Yonko (by hype only), so by logic the rest of the crew members should follow suit like they did in the past.

That's why OP has been making these threads lately
 

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Luffy himself needed Katakuri to be severely handicapped to beat him. The rest of the crew besides Zoro and Sanji won’t really matter against a yonko besides causing distractions. Shanks beats them med diff
 

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I'm gonna defend him a little bit but what he's trying to imply is that Luffy is going to fight Kaido towards the end of the next arc and he's already dubbed as the 5th Yonko. Now we know Luffy has a long way to go especially working on mastering his DF (awakens) so that he can preserve stamina etc and he needs to complete his whole crew so that they all can come together against higher level threats.

Besides that by hype he holds a high standard since he beat a Yonko First Mate who's suppose to have the strongest family crew, so by taking out Dogtooth (katakuri) which is the Yonko Whitebeard version equivalent to Marco, the next level Luffy should be compared to is hypothetically a Yonko (by hype only), so by logic the rest of the crew members should follow suit like they did in the past.

That's why OP has been making these threads lately
You think the first yonkou first mate to fall was the strongest one of the bunch ?

Also if that part about the "strongest family" is based on the Ace novel I'm questioning if you actually read it or if you're copying what other people have been saying. Because that is not how it's said in the novel yet ive seen it here a number of times on this forum.
 

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You think the first yonkou first mate to fall was the strongest one of the bunch ?
No I don’t personally I think it’s Ben Beckmen
Also if that part about the "strongest family" is based on the Ace novel I'm questioning if you actually read it or if you're copying what other people have been saying. Because that is not how it's said in the novel yet ive seen it here a number of times on this forum.
I was one of the first people on the base to read it, go ask @Vinsmoke Sanj lll. Big mom’s family is a crew so I don’t know why you’re questioning me if I read it or not because I know the context behind the whole story. This was stated by Ace’s crew member because he has a hobby on finding out details on the Yonko’s except for Shanks who was unknown.
So don’t question me on that one, I read it.

My point is to show you OP’s opinion on the situation and to explain to you on what level he feels the straw hats should be in.
 

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I'm gonna defend him a little bit but what he's trying to imply is that Luffy is going to fight Kaido towards the end of the next arc and he's already dubbed as the 5th Yonko. Now we know Luffy has a long way to go especially working on mastering his DF (awakens) so that he can preserve stamina etc and he needs to complete his whole crew so that they all can come together against higher level threats.

Besides that by hype he holds a high standard since he beat a Yonko First Mate who's suppose to have the strongest family crew, so by taking out Dogtooth (katakuri) which is the Yonko Whitebeard version equivalent to Marco, the next level Luffy should be compared to is hypothetically a Yonko (by hype only), so by logic the rest of the crew members should follow suit like they did in the past.

That's why OP has been making these threads lately
You are my Friend Smart and understands my intention unlike some of the ignorants who think i am not being serious for creating this thread

if Luffy decided to Go after Kaido who was known as the strongest CREATURE among all CREATURES
then what makes him no to be as a threat ( along with his Strawhats members of course ) to any Yonoko ?


you're probably the smartest person in One piece section ( there are smart people here ) and understands the purpose of any threads

Thanks !

You think the first yonkou first mate to fall was the strongest one of the bunch ?

Also if that part about the "strongest family" is based on the Ace novel I'm questioning if you actually read it or if you're copying what other people have been saying. Because that is not how it's said in the novel yet ive seen it here a number of times on this forum.

this is a proof




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it's Clear that WB was the Strongest Pirate in the world it's in the Manga
also he was Toe to Toe with the King of pirates


he is second most strongest Yonko

Because Kaido is the Strongest Creature

got it ?​

Shanks will need to swing that one arm fast as **** if he wants to win. Team Strawhats mid or low diff.

i will not say easy diff
but high diff

people keep underrate Zoro he is very Close to Admiral level , if he is not already on their level

His Swords with Haki is something you don't wanna mess with

Luffy himself needed Katakuri to be severely handicapped to beat him. The rest of the crew besides Zoro and Sanji won’t really matter against a yonko besides causing distractions. Shanks beats them med diff


don't underestimate the strawhats members
we didn't see the full power of some Strawhat members after the timeskip

plus luffy Defeated Katakuri let's not ignoring Manga FACTS
 
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No I don’t personally I think it’s Ben Beckmen


I was one of the first people on the base to read it, go ask @Vinsmoke Sanj lll. Big mom’s family is a crew so I don’t know why you’re questioning me if I read it or not because I know the context behind the whole story. This was stated by Ace’s crew member because he has a hobby on finding out details on the Yonko’s except for Shanks who was unknown.
So don’t question me on that one, I read it.

My point is to show you OP’s opinion on the situation and to explain to you on what level he feels the straw hats should be in.

I'm not faling over the word family but over the word strongest. So let me rephrase, do you believe that Big Mom has the strongest crew ?


this is a proof that you're a fodder member




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it's Clear that WB was the Strongest Pirate in the world it's in the Manga
also he was Toe to Toe with the King of pirates


he is second most strongest Yonko

Because Kaido is the Strongest Creature

got it ?​

I never talked about any of those points.
 
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this is a proof that




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it's Clear that WB was the Strongest Pirate in the world it's in the Manga
also he was Toe to Toe with the King of pirates


he is second most strongest Yonko

Because Kaido is the Strongest Creature

got it ?​
If whitebeard didn't have a heart attack. He would rek kaido
 
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I'm not faling over the word family but over the word strongest. So let me rephrase, do you believe that Big Mom has the strongest crew ?




I never talked about any of those points.
then what's this

You think the first yonkou first mate to fall was the strongest one of the bunch ?

If whitebeard didn't have a heart attack. He would rek kaido
Definitely

he was sick . not in his prime even after what he did in marine headquarter
 
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I'm not faling over the word family but over the word strongest. So let me rephrase, do you believe that Big Mom has the strongest crew ?
Rephrasing it does not change the fact, I already told you that my opinion is different. However I will add that I can see why they could be the strongest.
Because even if Kaido's top 3 commanders are stronger than Big Mom's or if Whitebeard's top 4 commanders are stronger than Big mom's, the rest of her family (ministers) are stronger than Whitebeards other commanders 6-16 and she has more of them than Whitebeard does his crew. Whitebeard needed allies to aid him in the last war and Big mom's family is round the same amount without the numbers of her own allies.
She remained Yonko for a reason.

Very interesting point

he was equal to the king of pirates after all
I wonder how strong Rogers was?
 
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I picture a whitebeard without heart attacks would be able to spam quake after quake after quake because he wouldn't have a heart attack in between to make him pause
marine headquarter should be ended from the start when WB played with the ocean with his DF power

but aokiji save all DF users from drowning

he was discrated most of the time in his fights

if he focused on someone face to face then finish this enemy and go to another it will be successful strategy

but they won't let him focus all admirals + shichibukai were attacking in the same time

Kizaru is the strongest admiral in my opinion

he no one harmed him that much

while akainu got his ass kicked badly by WB and was almost killed by Garp

I wonder how strong Rogers was?
Roger is definitely the strongest
he is so mysterious even until now

i guess no one can capture him due to his strength

i think he surrend himself because marine took one of his crew or someone close to him as a hostage

and in exchange for that member crew or friend freedom Roger have to Turn himself in

if you remember the flashback in that arc ( when luffy and his crew went to that city where roger executed )

you will see him telling the soldiers here up and do it then they execute him immediately and he was smiling

i guess to show you how leader he is and protecting for his crew

and to make this theory strong , why all his crew members are free ?

Rayleigh , the doctor ?


Luffy will be executed in the same place in the end and will do the same for his crew

and Toby will Catch him just like Garp did with Roger ( Roger's request )
 
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marine headquarter should be ended from the start when WB played with the ocean with his DF power

but aokiji save all DF users from drowning

he was discrated most of the time in his fights

if he focused on someone face to face then finish this enemy and go to another it will be successful strategy

but they won't let him focus all admirals + shichibukai were attacking in the same time

Kizaru is the strongest admiral in my opinion

he no one harmed him that much

while akainu got his ass kicked badly by WB and was almost killed by Garp
Either it was even or akainu won
 
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