[Discussion] Straw Hats vs Buster Call

[Uzumaki Macho]

I made this thread before awhile back. I want to see everyone's current opinion on this.


Scenario 1: The Vice Admirals are Momonga, Doberman, Yamakaji, Strawberry, and Onigumo. They are all the VAs that showed up at Enies Lobby.

My Argument: The Straw Hats win extreme diff. The M3 should be able to handle 3 VAs and the other 6 Straw Hats should be able to beat the other 2 since the Mid Trio are all arguably low-mid VA level. Also, Luffy knocks out the 10,000 fodder Marines with CoC.

Scenario 2: The Vice Admirals are Momonga, Vergo, Smoker, Bastille, and Maynard.

My Argument: This is how I think the match ups would go: Momonga vs Luffy, Vergo vs Zoro, Smoker vs Sanji, Bastille vs Franky(with assistance from Nami and Ussop), and Maynard vs Robin(with assistance from Chopper and Brook). Luffy wins high-extreme diff. Zoro wins extreme diff. Smoker wins high diff. Luffy and Zoro together bring down Smoker. Franky, Nami, and Ussop win high diff(mid diff if it is General Franky). Robin, Brook, and Chopper win mid diff. Overall, I think that the Straw Hats win high diff.

 

[bsims08]

I agree with all of that except maybe Zoro beating Vergo. I want to see Zoro go all out first to see how strong he really is and if he can even cut Vergo

 

[Tomato God]

I agree with all but Zoro beating Vergo and Sanji getting beat by smoker. As a guy who relies too much on his DF and the fact that Sanji is litterally engulfed in flames constantly. A pyromaniac that can use haki is just a bad match up for smokey.

I do believe Smoker is stronger but Fire > Smoke. And haki > Logia.

 

[Anduril]

Scenario 1 - Straw hats win low to mid difficulty
Scenario 2 - Straw hats win High difficulty

 

[Son Ryuto Uzumaki]

Zoro would end Vergo with Mid diff at most, I know I'm not the only person who was watching Zoro handle TOP EXECUTIVE PIKA (WHO IS ABOVE VERGO) WHO IS A STONE ABSORBING MAN harder than Vergo's haki

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Zoro would end Vergo with Mid diff at most, I know I'm not the only person who was watching Zoro handle TOP EXECUTIVE PIKA (WHO IS ABOVE VERGO) WHO IS A STONE ABSORBING MAN harder than Vergo's haki

Zoro wins extreme diff. Stone is not harder than Vergo's Haki.

 

[Love Cook]

Zoro would end Vergo with Mid diff at most, I know I'm not the only person who was watching Zoro handle TOP EXECUTIVE PIKA (WHO IS ABOVE VERGO) WHO IS A STONE ABSORBING MAN harder than Vergo's haki

Have you also seen the latest chapter WHERE THEY EXPLAINED THAT Vergo was the first CORAZON ?
Did you know THAT VERGO WAS COMPARED TO A SOLID MASS OF IRON with his normal body EVEN BEFORE HE USED HAKI ?

If stone would be stronger than haki, why is it that a haki fist can dent steel ?

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Also the second scenario guys are weaker than the first scenario VA's.

I think they would lose in the 1st scenario and win the 2nd

 

[sravan]

SH's win both high diff

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Have you also seen the latest chapter WHERE THEY EXPLAINED THAT Vergo was the first CORAZON ?
Did you know THAT VERGO WAS COMPARED TO A SOLID MASS OF IRON with his normal body EVEN BEFORE HE USED HAKI ?

If stone would be stronger than haki, why is it that a haki fist can dent steel ?

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Also the second scenario guys are weaker than the first scenario VA's.

I think they would lose in the 1st scenario and win the 2nd

Compared to a solid mass of iron? Wasn't zoro cutting iron since like alabasta?

On topic
for first scenario I see zoro fighting momonga or oniguma since there both swordsman and I have no idea who would win that. We haven't seen any of those 3 go all out. Luffy takes the one zoro doesn't take and sanjis could deal with another tough VA while the rest of the straw hats fight the rest. So it goes either way high-extreme diff

In the second scenario Luffy could beat vergo, Zoro and momonga fight again and sanjis and smoker fight, I beleive smoker is stronger but sanji could win this fight since he can cover his body in fire and has haki. And the others straw hats deal with the rest. They win this one high diff

 

[Tomato God]

Compared to a solid mass of iron? Wasn't zoro cutting iron since like alabasta?

On topic
for first scenario I see zoro fighting momonga or oniguma since there both swordsman and I have no idea who would win that. We haven't seen any of those 3 go all out. Luffy takes the one zoro doesn't take and sanjis could deal with another tough VA while the rest of the straw hats fight the rest. So it goes either way high-extreme diff

In the second scenario Luffy could beat vergo, Zoro and momonga fight again and sanjis and smoker fight, I beleive smoker is stronger but sanji could win this fight since he can cover his body in fire and has haki. And the others straw hats deal with the rest. They win this one high diff

He was cutting stone since he was a child. He still only has one Iron busting attack. One. He can cut stone with un-named fodder slashes.

 

[bsims08]

Zoro would end Vergo with Mid diff at most, I know I'm not the only person who was watching Zoro handle TOP EXECUTIVE PIKA (WHO IS ABOVE VERGO) WHO IS A STONE ABSORBING MAN harder than Vergo's haki

Wow Pica isn't even that strong and Zoro has barely even hurt him. Vergo's haki is one of the strongest out of anybody and no way Zoro can cut him without having CoA himself

 

[Love Cook]

Compared to a solid mass of iron? Wasn't zoro cutting iron since like alabasta?

Christ man, read ! That was totally not the point.

 

[kageking]

No vice admiral can hold a candle to the current monster trio. Vergo was the strongest VA. Sanji could duel him, zoro would beat him, luffy would beat him.

 

[Fireplay]

You guys are really underrestimating VA's.

Onigumo, Momonga and Vergo can whoop any SH's ass (Vergo loses to Luffy though).

 

[Love Cook]

No vice admiral can hold a candle to the current monster trio. Vergo was the strongest VA. Sanji could duel him, zoro would beat him, luffy would beat him.

So the VA that fell first in the New World is the strongest VA. Interesting story telling from Oda's side. Must be all downhill for the SH's from now on then. Just blast through those guys like Momonga who kicked Luffy around like a football during the war, or Oniguma who put Marco in cuffs.

 

[xanonymosx]

So the VA that fell first in the New World is the strongest VA. Interesting story telling from Oda's side. Must be all downhill for the SH's from now on then. Just blast through those guys like Momonga who kicked Luffy around like a football during the war, or Oniguma who put Marco in cuffs.

you said it, during the war i think it`s been tow yers since then current luffy will beat momonga extreme diff

oniguma didnt do it face to face he caught marco offgaurd
even you can kill a 200kg guy if you stab him from behind but if you confront him face to face well... rip dear love cook U_U

 

[Love Cook]

you said it, during the war i think it`s been tow yers since then current luffy will beat momonga extreme diff

oniguma didnt do it face to face he caught marco offgaurd
even you can kill a 200kg guy if you stab him from behind but if you confront him face to face well... rip dear love cook U_U

Ah I see Momonga didn't grow during timeskip like Smoker and all other marines did we saw.

And come on man, it's a fuc*ing war, if it's so easy to catch people of guard maybe Marco should've done that too, but he was the one in handcuffs. Was Marco's CoO not working to see him coming or was he busy looking after Whitebeard again.

 

[xanonymosx]

Ah I see Momonga didn't grow during timeskip like Smoker and all other marines did we saw.

And come on man, it's a fuc*ing war, if it's so easy to catch people of guard maybe Marco should've done that too, but he was the one in handcuffs. Was Marco's CoO not working to see him coming or was he busy looking after Whitebeard again.

may be your right but no one knows ts momonga feats so we are talking about pre ts momonga

yep he was distracted and it`s not like you can open coo mode and just stay on it dont you remember luffy`s training ? you have to concentrate and i didnt say that was illegal it`s a war
my point is oniguma wouldnt be able to do that if marco was paying attention so it dsnt give oniguma any more feats

 

[Anduril]

I wonder why none of the pre-skip VA's turn into an Admiral may be they require the Admiral stone to evolve.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

He was cutting stone since he was a child. He still only has one Iron busting attack. One. He can cut stone with un-named fodder slashes.

Wtf are you talking about? He can literally swing his sword and the air pressure form the swing will cut iron like fruit. Lmfaoooo do you even read the right manga? He can easily cut steel with just swinging his swords, And your saying he only has one iron busting attack?