[Discussion] Straw hat power scales

[Ridoku X]

Luffy:

Speed: 100
Strength: 100
Durability: 100

Zoro:

Speed: 75
Strength: 105
Durability: 90

Sanji:

Speed: 100
Strength: 75
Durability: 80

 

[Hexuze]

Zoro
Speed: 80
Strength: 100
Durability: 100

Sanji
Speed: 100
Strength: 80
Durability: 100

 

[A v i]

His strongest move? Lel
His strongest move would be Gomu gomu no jet Elephant gatling gun.

Ones PS is decided based on single attack not multiple attacks.

gomu gomu no jet Thor Elephant storm.

Feats?

 

[Tomato God]

Ones PS is decided based on single attack not multiple attacks.



Feats?

One single hit?!
Says who
Does that not count grizzly magnum then cause thats two hits
No it does.
Any move he does is one thing


and it doesnt need feats.

It was his strongest attack before gears and haki it should be the same after wards.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Luff =
Speed - 100
Strength - 100
Durability - 100

Zoro =
Speed - 80
Strength - 100
Durability - 100

Sanji =
Speed - 105
Strength - 90
Durability - 80

Franky =
Speed - 40
Strength - 90
Durability - 60

Robin =
Speed - 70
Strength - 50
Durability - 50

Brook =
Speed - 99
Strength - 30
Durability - 30

Chopper =
Speed - 40
Strength - 40
Durability - 10

Nami =
Speed - 10
Strength - 10
Durability - 10

Usopp =
Speed - 10
Strength - 10
Durability - 10

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Luffy
Speed: 100
Strength: 100
Durability:100
Total: 300

Zoro
Speed: 70
Strength: 100(I recall Oda saying Luffy are Zoro are equal in brute strength)
Durability: 110(his endurance IS abnormal)
Total: 280

Sanji
Speed: 110
Strength: 80
Durability: 90
Total: 280

Franky
Speed: 40
Strength: 70
Durability: 70
Total: 150

Robin
Speed: 50
Strength: 30(50 with her DF)
Durability: 40
Total: 120/140

Brooke
Speed: 80
Strength: 20
Durability: 40
Total: 140

 

[A v i]

One single hit?!
Says who
Does that not count grizzly magnum then cause thats two hits
No it does.
Any move he does is one thing

Lmao, then it makes your point even worse as none of Luffy's single hit attack's DC can be comparable to that of what Zoro did against Pica. It means that Zoro is far a head of Luffy.Lol GM should be considered as single attack as he hits the target at the same time with both hands so it isn't a repetitive attack. It's just a stronger version of Bazuka.


Which one should be considered as the winner in a weight lifting competition?

The one that can lift 150Kg in single step or the one that lifts 200 kg (100 kg at a time)in two steps?

and it doesnt need feats.

It was his strongest attack before gears and haki it should be the same after wards.

Most clueless logic ever. It is same as saying that Bazuka is still Luffy's strongest move coz it was his strongest move at one point in past. He developed a lot of new moves some of them might be stronger than that attack and some might be weaker. GM has more DC than TES. Hence GM > TES.

 

[Tomato God]

Lmao, the it makes your point even worse as none of Luffy's single hit attack's DC can be comparable to that of what Zoro did against Pica. It means that Zoro is far a head of Luffy.Lol

I can't you seriously if you even consider Zoro to be stronger than Luffy. Luffy from skypiea has better strength feats than zoro currently.

GTFO of here.
His feat at Sky Island Puts all other Strength feats to shame. Zoro and Sanji both fail in all accounts against his strength feats.

Yet according to the scans, that's indeed how much it weighs...well, at least according to the scans they used. The bottom right panel gives a radius of around 2 meters

But going by the measurements in this scan (radius of 1.74 meters), the ball weighed in at around 476 tons:

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Other scans vary in size so For estimate sakes lets call it about 2 meters

Which would make the balls volume
V=4/3πr3
V≈33.51
And with the denisty of gold being about 19,282.00 kilograms per cubic meter
the weight of the gold bell being reoresented here
(33.51 Cubic Meters * 19,282 grams) =646 139.82 grams
Grams to pounds gives us about
1424494.464049 pounds
which is 646 TONS thats the equivalent of being forced to carry around 6 and a half Commercial Airliners.

HE SLUNG 646 tons across a gap so big that it is probably a shot that Pre-skip Usopp would have been feated for and then
Ontop of that slung it so fast that enel couldn't dodge it. For him to move at lightning speed C-Resitance in the air about .2 meters

Means that luffy must have slung that ball atleast nearly 15 times the speed of sound.

AND with enough force to shatter that golden bell and knock it from the sky which it took everyman on the ilsand to move.

LUFFY is un contested in raw strength.

In an arm wrestling match Skypiea and current zoro would be at a draw. Zoro was put in a cage at fishman Island and had to stay there until he got his swords. Luffy would have just punched his way out of that cage. Or swelled up like a balloon and shattered it.
Luffy VS Zoro in strength is a joke.

Luffy vs Zoro is a high diff fight. But luffy VS zoro in a slug fest is luffy low diff.

Most clueless logic ever. It is same as saying that Bajuka is still Luffy's strongest move coz it was his strongest move at one point in past. He developed a lot of new moves some of them might be stronger than that attack and some might be weaker. GM has more DC than TES. Hence GM > TES.

.. Really mother !@#!er?

Grizzly magnum is Just gomu gomu bazooka with Gear third and haki equiped
So if we take The basic technique and subract all teh additives then we can see which one is the strongest

Luffy has the same techniques that he had at Alabasta or Eneis lobby Just with gears and haki and new names.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Zoro is physically stronger than Luffy. Their attacks against Pica clearly proves it. Zoro's attack did more damage than what Luffy managed to pull with his strongest move.

Not really. Zoro's attack was more vertically-inclined while Luffy's was horizontal. Zoro's went up and down while Luffy went back to front. When you look at depth, it's clear that Luffy's attack was deeper than Zoro's, while Zoro's was larger in scale. They're neck and neck.

 

[A v i]

Not really. Zoro's attack was more vertically-inclined while Luffy's was horizontal. Zoro's went up and down while Luffy went back to front. When you look at depth, it's clear that Luffy's attack was deeper than Zoro's, while Zoro's was larger in scale. They're neck and neck.

Are you telling me that it managed to cut the statue in half without going deeper? Whatever, it's clear to me that Zoro did more damage than what Luffy did.

I can't you seriously if you even consider Zoro to be stronger than Luffy. Luffy from skypiea has better strength feats than zoro currently.

GTFO of here.
His feat at Sky Island Puts all other Strength feats to shame. Zoro and Sanji both fail in all accounts against his strength feats.

Yet according to the scans, that's indeed how much it weighs...well, at least according to the scans they used. The bottom right panel gives a radius of around 2 meters

But going by the measurements in this scan (radius of 1.74 meters), the ball weighed in at around 476 tons:

You must be registered for see images

Other scans vary in size so For estimate sakes lets call it about 2 meters

Which would make the balls volume
V=4/3πr3
V≈33.51
And with the denisty of gold being about 19,282.00 kilograms per cubic meter
the weight of the gold bell being reoresented here
(33.51 Cubic Meters * 19,282 grams) =646 139.82 grams
Grams to pounds gives us about
1424494.464049 pounds
which is 646 TONS thats the equivalent of being forced to carry around 6 and a half Commercial Airliners.

HE SLUNG 646 tons across a gap so big that it is probably a shot that Pre-skip Usopp would have been feated for and then
Ontop of that slung it so fast that enel couldn't dodge it. For him to move at lightning speed C-Resitance in the air about .2 meters

Means that luffy must have slung that ball atleast nearly 15 times the speed of sound.

AND with enough force to shatter that golden bell and knock it from the sky which it took everyman on the ilsand to move.

LUFFY is un contested in raw strength.

In an arm wrestling match Skypiea and current zoro would be at a draw. Zoro was put in a cage at fishman Island and had to stay there until he got his swords. Luffy would have just punched his way out of that cage. Or swelled up like a balloon and shattered it.
Luffy VS Zoro in strength is a joke.

Luffy vs Zoro is a high diff fight. But luffy VS zoro in a slug fest is luffy low diff.

I am not interested in your BS calculations. It can't be used to compare their PS to began with as there isn't anything that suggests that Zoro can't pull it off. If you can somehow prove me that Zoro can't pull same feat then we can talk. They faced same opponent after TS and Zoro displayed better feat than what Luffy accomplished. Hence he's better than Luffy. It's that simple.

.. Really mother !@#!er?

Grizzly magnum is Just gomu gomu bazooka with Gear third and haki equiped
So if we take The basic technique and subract all teh additives then we can see which one is the strongest

Luffy has the same techniques that he had at Alabasta or Eneis lobby Just with gears and haki and new names.

Once again I am not interested in your irrelevant nonsense. Among all of his single hit moves after TS, he displayed best DC feat with GM . Hence it's the strongest single hit move of him. If you can show me the scans of any other single hit attack being stronger than this one then I'll gladly admit that I am wrong.

 

[Bogard]

Are you telling me that it managed to cut the statue in half without going deeper? Whatever, it's clear to me that Zoro did more damage than what Luffy did.

Roughly 3.5times bigger and we also have to take into consideration the fact that the torso is far larger than the head

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[Anduril]

Brook speed feat - Running on water. (I doubt anyone can match that)

 

[ultraChalk]

Zoro
Speed- 80 or 85.
Strength- eh... 95. I believe Luffys strongest attack can do more damage than Zoros.
Durability- 100. I believe Luffy pased out because he thoughts R was over. If he knewKuma was there he'd have stayed up and took the pain as well and still took it. They got the same durability.

Sanji
Speed-95 or 100. I believe Sanji can keep up with Luffy.
Strength- 85-90. he deserves more credit than what people give him imo. Mingo was very impressed with his performance and praised him twice.
Durability- 85-90 imo. He fought and used Geppo on a broken leg. If thats it durability then color me surprised. Plus he did pretty well with his encounter with Mingo But I'll have to see how he's holding up on the ship to make a proper judgement call.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

U know how ubsurd that 700ton gold ball calculation is for me, coz when u consider that the waver was hauling that n then try calculating how much horse power it has to do so it wld b so much that the waver's thruster puts shame to Iron Man's n he is Mach what again?. Then there is the fact that the ball is just a fraction of the ornamental face on the Maxim so how much must that weigh then remember the gears Sanji knocked off coz well then the Maxim wld probably fly.

I'm not saying the calculation is wrong but just that the ball was probably drawn by Oda in such sizes more for the art n with the mind of a ball that the viewer can believe wld pull Luffy down but not with how much it wld weigh(a ball that spans say maybe 30cm wld seem like a larger cannon ball u know n its not every fan that knows and all that especially not the target 15yr old).

As much as I like numbers I think with OP there r some cases however few they don't give a true reflection of what Oda probably had in mind.

OT to Luffy's 300 I wld say Zoro 290(90–speed) n Sanji 280/285(95speed&/durability n 90strenght).

 

[Tomato God]

Are you telling me that it managed to cut the statue in half without going deeper? Whatever, it's clear to me that Zoro did more damage than what Luffy did.



I am not interested in your BS calculations. It can't be used to compare their PS to began with as there isn't anything that suggests that Zoro can't pull it off. If you can somehow prove me that Zoro can't pull same feat then we can talk. They faced same opponent after TS and Zoro displayed better feat than what Luffy accomplished. Hence he's better than Luffy. It's that simple.




Once again I am not interested in your irrelevant nonsense. Among all of his single hit moves after TS, he displayed best DC feat with GM . Hence it's the strongest single hit move of him. If you can show me the scans of any other single hit attack being stronger than this one then I'll gladly admit that I am wrong.

second to the ice burg with jozu or the cannonball with garp

luffy's gold ball is the biggest strength feat we have

 

[LitzSabr]

Hajrudin overcame 10k tonns. Hajrudin strengthwise>>Luffy #nocontust

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

pure speculation ofc

Luffy
speed: 100
strength: 100
durability: 100
total: 300

Zoro
speed: 80 +-5
strength: 90 +-5
durability: 90 +-5
total: 260-275

Sanji
speed: 90 +-5
strength: 80 +-5
durability: 80 +-5
total: 250-265

I am now gonna try the other 6 SHs but since they have pretty much no fights that could be reliably compared to the M3o I'll be way off ... hmm how to compare teh non-fighters to gear 2 speed? they look like ants in comparison :/ I'll just go with about 1/10th ... okay just don't hate me for these low numbers

Franky
speed: 10
strength: 50
durability: 40
lasers bonus: 15
total: 115

Robin
speed: 10
strength: 20
durability: 20
OP DF bonus: 50
total: 100

Brook
speed: 30-40
strength: 30
durability: 10
total: 70-80

Chopper
speed: 10
strength: 30
durability: 20
monster bonus: 40
total: 100

Nami:
speed: 5
strength: 5
durability: 5
clima tact bonus: 20
total: 35

Usopp
speed: 5
strength: 10
durability: 10
kami Usopp and sogeking bonus: ∞
total: ∞ + 25

and tbh even some of these low numbers feel to high (actually pretty much every number up there seems too high) compared to Luffy (take durability, compared to Luffy Nami's durability should be like 0.1)

+Law
strength: 50
speed: 50
durability: 50
OP DF Bonus: ~150
total: ~300

....
Robin was able to catch someone faster then zoro and restrain him (hyoboka.. he's not as strong as zoro but he can clash with chinjao etc) so her speed is wrong as well as strength for restraining him ...


Law casting his room is as fast as gear second luffy as he was able to cast it at same time not to mention he intercepted doffy multiple times who is faster then luffy as for physical strength he has cut vergo (mix of OP devil fruit and his own haki) as well as clashed with overheat and effectively blocked it.. which was able to majority of town apart in almost an instant.. so ur numbers r s pretty weird ....
For law I see his speed equal if not greater then. Luffys cuz he is not slow
His strength on sanji level or perhaps above but most likely under zoro (tho I think zoro swords would have been snapped in half .. against over heat)

Durability I mean this guy has taken a beaten from both vergo and doffy and still shown to fight ... His durability is way higher then what u give it credit for..

 

[A v i]

second to the ice burg with jozu or the cannonball with garp

luffy's gold ball is the biggest strength feat we have

Early Part-1 Luffy effortlessly pulled that feat. Zoro has always been on par with Luffy in terms of strength (Except for EL arc)so if Luffy does something effortlessly then so can Zoro. If you think that gold ball feat is the best feat so far and Zoro couldn't pull that feat then it means that you think Early part-1 Luffy > Zoro in terms of PS which is pure BS. As I said before you can't use that bell feat to say that Luffy is the winner as portrayal suggests that even Zoro can pull that feat as they were as good as equals at that point in manga. Zoro is specialized in COA which is why it's only logical to think that he's physically stronger than Luffy.