[Discussion] Straw Hat Pirates Strength with the following

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

Okay this is merely a speculation and an impossibility now obviously but lets say it happened.

Lets say ACE and Jinbe became members of the Straw hat pirates and they were as powerful as they are now.

How much more powerful would the crew as a whole be and where do you think they would rank?

THIS IS ASSUMING THE REST OF THE CREW STILL WENT THROUGH THE 2 YEARS OF TRAINING AND LUFFY HAD LOST SOMEONE ELSE and it had the same effect.

So Where would they be? Top 5 crews maybe?

 

[Blunt]

Okay this is merely a speculation and an impossibility now obviously but lets say it happened.

Lets say ACE and Jinbe became members of the Straw hat pirates and they were as powerful as they are now.

How much more powerful would the crew as a whole be and where do you think they would rank?

THIS IS ASSUMING THE REST OF THE CREW STILL WENT THROUGH THE 2 YEARS OF TRAINING AND LUFFY HAD LOST SOMEONE ELSE and it had the same effect.

So Where would they be? Top 5 crews maybe?

So post timeskip Straw Hats, Jimbei and a hypothetical timeskip Ace? Ace would tip the scales in SH's power dramatically considering his potential.

Though they wouldn't be top 5.

 

[Fair Game]

Not top five crews. When taking in to consideration the crew's of the four emperors and doflamingo's crew. Maybe top 10.

 

[Bogard]

Considering Burgess came from fodder to Ace preskip to close to base Sabo's level postskip who isn't that far behind a newly swallowed logia df(who can hang with admirals without pushing them too much), i'd say a postskip Ace with much greater potential could have been admiral level, maybe even world strongest man if he trained a lot. As for the actual crew ranking, no way to tell

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

Not top five crews. When taking in to consideration the crew's of the four emperors and doflamingo's crew. Maybe top 10.

Maybe top 10? I think they would be likely the 5th or 6th strongest crew, Think about Ace's potential... add in that Jinbe joined as well.

They basically now have 5 TOP level fighters

 

[TRE MERCER]

L0l Ace is being so overrated...

 

[sravan]

top 10 crews maybe

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

L0l Ace is being so overrated...

lol hes really not though

 

[Kai NB]

We assume Ace's range would be close to Sabo's now (big assumption though)

So, pretty tough crew there

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

We assume Ace's range would be close to Sabo's now (big assumption though)

So, pretty tough crew there

Agreed But I would think he would be much stronger? If he were to train to mainly gain an increase in his Haki...I feel like he would be on Aokiji's level or above it.

 

[Kai NB]

Agreed But I would think he would be much stronger? If he were to train to mainly gain an increase in his Haki...I feel like he would be on Aokiji's level or above it.

I don't know. Luffy himself was a natural at learning Haki, but it still took him a year and a half just to learn the basics. Granted, his Conqueror's Haki is obviously superior in skill to his other two Hakis, Rayleigh himself said he would just get the basics. That's why Luffy stated his Armament Haki isn't good enough to protect him from piercing or slashing attacks

Same for Ace. Even if he's a natural, he would only learn the basics. He would be on another level completely, but not admiral match in my opinion

 

[Olorin]

Ace as powerful as he is now? You mean if he was still alive and went through the 2y TS?

In that case Ace would be stronger than Sabo, he'd comfortably sit in the Admiral tier and probably be stronger than Marco but the rest of The monster quintet couldn't match all the remaining WB commanders together + their other pirates so they would sit somewhere behind the Phoenix pirates

The Yonko crews ofc would also be stronger in that case

But than Again Luffy and Ace had about the same potential and if there won't be another TS that means Liffy will be the PK as old as he is now, maybe a year dif which means Ace after 2 years could maybe be above the Admirals

 

[blood hound]

If Ace and Jembi were to join the Strawhats, they well be stronger...... In saying so however, the opponents they face would always be somewhat on the same level. It's the only way to keep things interesting :/ or it would be an overkill for the strawhats.

As a crew ranking... Ace would have been the strongest, Jembi, Luffy, zoro and sanji would be somewhat on the same level.... Next comes nico robin then the rest

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

Ace as powerful as he is now? You mean if he was still alive and went through the 2y TS?

In that case Ace would be stronger than Sabo, he'd comfortably sit in the Admiral tier and probably be stronger than Marco but the rest of The monster quintet couldn't match all the remaining WB commanders together + their other pirates so they would sit somewhere behind the Phoenix pirates

The Yonko crews ofc would also be stronger in that case

But than Again Luffy and Ace had about the same potential and if there won't be another TS that means Liffy will be the PK as old as he is now, maybe a year dif which means Ace after 2 years could maybe be above the Admirals

True but where would you guys rank the crew actually? As in who could directly oppose them?

 

[jiraiya lives]

top 5? hmm well we still have the remaining WB pirates, BB crew, Shanks crew, Kaido crew, Big Mam crew, Doflamingo crew and probably some unnamed crews that has been yet to be revealed and Allies of the Yonkou

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

top 5? hmm well we still have the remaining WB pirates, BB crew, Shanks crew, Kaido crew, Big Mam crew, Doflamingo crew and probably some unnamed crews that has been yet to be revealed and Allies of the Yonkou

So Maybe top 10 But I mean of crews known. I feel like Doflamingos crew would be on par if NOT below them with ace AND Jimbei as well on the crew. Blackbeards crew doesn't seem so special aside from BB himself, Shanks, kaido and Big Mam's respective crews are a whole nother story though. So give me 1 crew besides them that could beat them