[VS] Straw Hat Grand Fleet vs Pre-TS BB Pirates
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Punk Hazard
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Hard to say but we don't know the strength of a lot of the BB pirates members. I don't think any of the members of the grand fleet could beat either shiryuu or BB individually except maybe G4 luffy. I don't think current zoro beats shiryuu. Not sure who beat San Juan wild either (besides luffy or zoro, still not convinced though), he's just so big. Gotta give this to the fleet though, I think the numbers game is enough with that level of fighters.
Uzumaki Macho
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BB pirates win.
You are only as strong as your strongest fighters.
BB > Luffy
Shiryu > Zoro
The rest are a bunch of level 5 prisoners who are possibly above Sanji and the rest of the strawhats/ main alliance commanders.
As long as BB beats Luffy, the numbers are irrelevant. The fodders aren't gonna interfere with the main fights as they would not help but only get in the way (Shiryu, BB fights specifically).
You are only as strong as your strongest fighters.
BB > Luffy
Shiryu > Zoro
The rest are a bunch of level 5 prisoners who are possibly above Sanji and the rest of the strawhats/ main alliance commanders.
As long as BB beats Luffy, the numbers are irrelevant. The fodders aren't gonna interfere with the main fights as they would not help but only get in the way (Shiryu, BB fights specifically).
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Fleet stomps...
There are 2 Novas, and around 5-6 M3 level members... And some formidable faces too...
And fodders come in handy when you're having your opponent at bay...
There are 2 Novas, and around 5-6 M3 level members... And some formidable faces too...
And fodders come in handy when you're having your opponent at bay...
The Fleet seems big mainly because of Orlumbus gigantic fodder army(he is a fodder himself, so let alone the people he leads). We've already seen how Fujitora could sink a similar army in an instant. That's how irrelevant they'd be in a fight and in the individual battles(a gura quake could finish them)
Teach > Luffy
Shiryu > Zoro
Burgess > Sanji
Outside of them i view the most dangerous among the strawhats is Cavendish(mainly because of Hakuba). Sai has great attack power but lacks the skill. Bartolomeo could be great for defensive maneuvers but that's about it
In the end the level6 rescapees(Catarina Devon, Sanjuan Wolf, Avalo Pizarro) should be able to finish them
Teach > Luffy
Shiryu > Zoro
Burgess > Sanji
Outside of them i view the most dangerous among the strawhats is Cavendish(mainly because of Hakuba). Sai has great attack power but lacks the skill. Bartolomeo could be great for defensive maneuvers but that's about it
In the end the level6 rescapees(Catarina Devon, Sanjuan Wolf, Avalo Pizarro) should be able to finish them
Uzumaki Macho
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Why do you think that Burgess is the 3rd strongest BB Pirate? Putting Pre-TS Burgess above Post-TS Sanji is completely baseless.
You are so wrong...you just are...
The fleet being weaker than SHs doesn't mean if BB crew take care of SHs that they will win LOL
SH fleet has way too much men to beat and BB can't possibly win.No way in hell.
Your post is so wrong...
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If he'd dedeat the SH's he could Black Hole half the fleet away in the first 30 secs.. Tho I don't think that'd happen before timeskip..
What? 5200+ men to not be able to defeat BB? You do know that Fleet will help Luffy in last battle to make Luffy Pirate King? If they can't defeat 12 men who are already injured a little before SH fight they shouldn't be a fleet in the first place.
BB isn't resistant to direct attacks and he takes more dmg that he used to couse of Yami Yami.
This is just wrong.Luffy's fleet isn't fodder as well.
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MasqueradeNX
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I never said Burgess was the 3rd strongest. I just placed him against Sanji because he had more available feats than the rest. Ah didn't pay much attention though. Thought it was their post-timeskip version. Well in this case i'm not as sure anymore but the level6 rescapees should be able to defeat Sanji and Cavendish without too much problems which i believe would be the main issues, so in the end it doesn't change too much
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Lol I didn't say BB would win, I just said he COULD Black Hole half the fleet away in the first seconds, but as I said I don't think pre timeskip BB'd win from 5500+ men plus G4 Luffy AND (Law and) Zoro