Stop Overrating Madara Against Juubito

[~Sovereign~]

Like you just told me. How do you know juubito can use kamui wood release rinnegan? That's right you don't. So far the idiot doesn't even know his name and he's just rushing his enemies with pure power.

I'll keep my mouth shut until next chapter but ill say one more thing. Re read the last two chapters and just look at Madara. Does it really look like he's worried. Seriously the hokages look FAR more disturbed than Madara. You forget that Madara read the entire sage tablet. You don't understand how much knowledge he hold when dealing with the juubi and sage. Him sitting on his ass smiling and not even mad that Obito broke free from his control and use rinne tensei on himself shows that he has the upmost confidence in his back up plan. I think your jumping to conclusions. It's Madara for crying out loud. The guy that was able to survive well over 100 years without being discovered. His plan will be legit it's so obvious.

juubi is using obito's body so why wouldnt it be able to use obito's abilities?

what does not knowing a name have to do with using obito's abilities??

of course madara isn't worried, he has a trump card BUT that doesn't mean the trumo card will work

answer me this, if the trump card fails, HOW WILL MADARA WIN OR GO TOE TO TOE WITH JUUBITO??? power wise

like I said before, it doesn't matter how long madar planned this out, no plan is perfect and madara can fail at any time

Nagato learning jutsu from rinnegan shouldn't be discussed. It's stated in the manga that no shinobi has all five elements unless they wield the rinnegan which Nagato had rinnegan and all 5 elements. That there gives it all to the rinnegan and not hard work lol. He doesn't have a answer for that because the manga already answered it.

lmao you don't even know what the debate was about obviously, stay out of this

Agreed. Any Madara fanboy who thinks that Madara can defeat the man with all of the Juubi's power at his disposal needs to slap themselves in the face, extra hard.

Fanboys mention his trump card, when it could possibly have NOTHING to do with strength at all.

Obito (Juubi's Jin)>Edo Madara, and the gap is large. Very large.

obvious is obvious lol, I honestly don't know how people really think madara stands a chance, its basically 10 tails vs madara, ESPECIALLY if the trump card fails

and its even stronger to be a jinchuuriki

Considering that Madara's will still has a lot of influence on Obito, I wouldn't give this to Obito just yet.

I doubt that matters at this point, if the trump card fails (which I really think it will), its over for madara in a 1v1, madara will join the alliance soon, hashirama's statement kinda foreshadows it

Is this thread about madara being weaker than obito?

yup and fanboy overrating madara period

 

[shelke]

I doubt that matters at this point, if the trump card fails (which I really think it will), its over for madara in a 1v1, madara will join the alliance soon, hashirama's statement kinda foreshadows it

It's a shonen manga. I doubt it would happen any other way. It's just a nursery rhyme affair now. Completely predictable.

 

[Transcendence]

Anybody who says Madara can go toe to toe with Juubito suffers from severe Mental retardation. For reasons stated; Juubito fodderized SM enhanced Hashirama Mokuton. Madara's pales in comparison. Madara has barely any feats with the Rinnegan and the only significant feat with it; the meteors will be utterly annihilated. I'm pretty sure that if Naruto and Bee can fire off Continuous Bijuudama's the Juubi Jinchuriki could as well but with even bigger Bijuudamas. All that's left is the Perfect Susanoo but we still haven't factored in Kamui, which is roughly equal to PS.

Edo Madara can't win.

 

[~Sovereign~]

okay firstly, I meant not all abilities awaken initially; I said that clearly

I even gave the example of how Sasuke awakening his MS didn't mean he obtained all the abilities in one day....so stop twisting my words


and you're still not getting the question

you said yourself that anyone can master jutsu if they train hard enough

so what significance does the rinnegan have in mastering jutsu?

How does jiraiya tell the difference between mastering something through the rinnegan and mastering without it?


honestly are you not getting this?

THATS THE SAME THING I SAID FROM THE START!!! YOU JUST REWORDED IT

nagato LEARNED the rinnegan (not all abilities at first) THEN he MASTERED the rinnegan YEARS LATER (6 path chibaku tensei and whatever else)

so like I said AGAIN, every jutsu/mode/style/form/tech is LEARNED THEN MASTERED

and rinnegan doesn't master nothing instantly, it master anything EVENTUALLY

the thing about master with rinnegan is that you can master ANY jutsu and element, while most people only get 2 elements and a few jutsu, THATS the significance of rinnegan, NOT mastering anything instantly, that doesn't even make sense

 

[Kanaxai]

To cut all the bullsh... long story short, Itachi solos.

 

[~Sovereign~]

To cut all the bullsh... long story short, Itachi solos.

the dead guy?

 

[SagemodejubihostSasuke]

Gosh my brain cells are being killed reading more of this thread. One Obito is the strongest Ninja known in the Naruto Verse other then Sage of the sixth paths of course. Madara I will repeat Madara can not beat Obito with raw power, that why I think his trump card might be a seal or summoning of some sort. Even Madara commend him when he called him the the hermit of the sage of sixth paths. From that text alone I think Obito is omniscience meaning he has unlimited knowledge. I will and see next week if Madara still wins the war between obito for control over Jubi.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Gosh my brain cells are being killed reading more of this thread. One Obito is the strongest Ninja known in the Naruto Verse other then Sage of the sixth paths of course. Madara I will repeat Madara can not beat Obito with raw power, that why I think his trump card might be a seal or summoning of some sort. Even Madara commend him when he called him the the hermit of the sage of sixth paths. From that text alone I think Obito is omniscience meaning he has unlimited knowledge. I will and see next week if Madara still wins the war between obito for control over Jubi.

of course madara cant win, idk how these people think madara stand any chance

I think madara will use a completely new jutsu to try to control obito or destroy obito's side

whatever madara uses, I think its something that can only be used on obito

 

[King Of Kings]

Thought this was obvious...obviously not. Madara stands no chance in hell but i really want to see the trump card first even though i think it won't work because madara plans may already be miscalculated by now and if the trump really does fail things will get very interesting for the next few weeks

 

[~Sovereign~]

Thought this was obvious...obviously not. Madara stands no chance in hell but i really want to see the trump card first even though i think it won't work because madara plans may already be miscalculated by now and if the trump really does fail things will get very interesting for the next few weeks

I agree

I mentioned that in my other thread, the fact that nagato is dead ruined madara's plan in some kind of way because when madara got out the coffin he was lookin forward to nagato being the one to use the rinne tensei (whatever its called)

 

[Zazuke]

I am sure Madara's trump card will be effective. That's all there is to it

 

[Percy Jackson]

Madara will try to stop obito BEFORE obito stop him..
He's gonna use his trump card..
True..

But madara was afraid that obito "might" stop him before he can use trump card!!
Reason Y he say "might" is because he don't know what's obito gonna do..And remember that obito isn't really obito.. If madara was lucky, obito just leave him alone.. But if it's isn't his lucky day.. Juubito will stop him..
Madara just don't know either obito gonna leave him or stop him..

That's the only reason Y madara says "might"

That's Y at first (the time when he says he plain were fail) he wasn't worry at that time, but after the obito display the power of the 10tail.. He got worried and even says obito is more becoming more the likes of sage of the six path..