Stop Complaining

[Shanks]

Nearly every piece of literature has fault in some way or another. There is no story that everyone will like. Ergo, people will criticize and point out flaws as they see fit.

You cannot change this, nor will you making known your disdain towards this change things. It's just the way it is.

I'm sure that Kishimoto doesn't mind, either. The man has over 200 million copies of his work sold and has a large sum of money, in addition to contracts for future series' relating to Naruto. He's content and likely could care less about what some individuals say on a forum- of which he cannot even read the posts considering his English is very poor by his own admission.

I think him bringing Kaguya was really wrong step . Rest was Okay .. I never thought Kishi as one of best story teller .

 

[ANiMUS]

:| Or how about I continue to do what I want and u realize that u have no more influence on others than anyone else.
There are plenty of bad choices that Kishimoto has made so to an extent I can understand ppl complaining.

 

[Shanks]

Whatever you feel about Naruto, that doesn't change the fact that it has some pretty god awful writing and story telling. Of least is Sasuke and Naruto's ****ed up and totally unrealistic affections for one another.

The bold part : I disagree .. You never read Part 1 properly did you ??

 

[Stxluciferr]

Whatever you feel about Naruto, that doesn't change the fact that it has some pretty god awful writing and story telling. Of least is Sasuke and Naruto's ****ed up and totally unrealistic affections for one another.

I don't disagree but I still enjoyed reading it every week

 

[Made in Heaven]

The bold part : I disagree .. You never read Part 1 properly did you ??

I did. Where did they actually ever bond like normal human beings? Where did they ever just sit down and have a conversation or eat together? wtf would they even talk about outside destiny and saving the world and uchiha angst? Their development is shit, and Kishi knew that, which is why he had to make them the reincarnations of not one, but two pairs of brothers [Hagoromo/Hamura & Ashura/Indra] for damage control.

I don't disagree but I still enjoyed reading it every week

I enjoyed reading it also, and I won't deny it was fun. but that doesn't change the fact that this series has some major issues with it's story and writing.

This is undeniable.

 

[SkillMillTill]

I agree wholeheartedly!

 

[seventh 09]

I sort of have to agree with this. After reading some interviews, assuming they were real (I think they were though) Kishimoto seems more and more like a child. Some examples paraphrased:

Who is your favourite male? Naruto. Who is your favourite female? It would be weird to say since I created them and all but probably Hinata.

I think in one interview he said Hinata was a woman and she has nice breasts, and Sakura's good too he guesses.

Lastly, he said that he decided not to develop Sakura more because of her poor ratings in the polls. Even though her poor development was one of the reasons people hate her.

He gets embarrassed trying to draw romances, and sucks at female development, his words not mine.

He also said that other mangaka claim that he follows his editors too much and his editor changed adter Sasuke got his mangekyou so right before the war arc which is where people argue that the quality dropped.

THe people that translated that said it was the hosts of the show talking about the brest thing and this is my opinion but remember in the begining youre kinda on trial for like the first hundred chapaters or so so to dedicate so much panel time to a character people dont like would be suicide he should of done something in shippuden but he didnt

 

[Chie]

By that same logic, them making known their disdain towards the series, will not change the way it has ended.

Exactly. People complaining know Kishimoto isn't redoing the ending. We all do. But like everyone else, they're just sharing their opinions. It would be bland if we only saw supportive opinions. Sometimes negative ones are good as well. Not only that, but it's normal for people to get annoyed sometimes, especially when they see something they don't like. It's okay for them to complain. Regardless, it's not as if Kishimoto cares for what people on NB say, nor does he see it in the first place.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Stop your complaining about the last chapters and "The Last" movie. You've probably grown up with Naruto so no kind of ending would have you any less butt hurt over the fact that it has ended. I'm tired of hearing,"Kishimoto is shit," or ,"the Narutoverse is shit." You're shit. It was Kishimoto's story, he ended it the way he saw fit.
Learn to appreciate.

^Tells people to stop complaining by using a complaint. ^

 

[Shanks]

I did. Where did they actually ever bond like normal human beings? Where did they ever just sit down and have a conversation or eat together? wtf would they even talk about outside destiny and saving the world and uchiha angst? Their development is shit, and Kishi knew that, which is why he had to make them the reincarnations of not one, but two pairs of brothers [Hagoromo/Hamura & Ashura/Indra] for damage control.

That makes them unique .. Sasuke is not type of guy who sits with his pals and chit chat . Naruto and Sasuke bond is really complex at times :

The last chapter of Sasuke's Monologue pretty much says he wanted to be loved like everyone else he already acknowledged naruto but his goals held him back . I think Sasuke was more realistic person to be out there ..

Their destiny is not like Ashura and Indra this is what Naruto said all along . There development of brotherly bond is the best thing i have read in any Manga .

I recommend you Read 698 properly .. Why do you think Sasuke cried when Naruto said he will not hold back and always bring Sasuke to light no matter what ..

 

[superturtle]

Whatever you feel about Naruto, that doesn't change the fact that it has some pretty god awful writing and story telling. Of least is Sasuke and Naruto's ****ed up and totally unrealistic affections for one another.

I remember reading that Kishimoto actually wanted to focus on 2 or 3 more arcs after wave and before the chuunin exams to further establish the relationship between team 7, but the editor wanted him to introduce the new side characters, so that one might not be his fault.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I remember reading that Kishimoto actually wanted to focus on 2 or 3 more arcs after wave and before the chuunin exams to further establish the relationship between team 7, but the editor wanted him to introduce the new side characters, so that one might not be his fault.

Shit, really? If that's true, then those editor's can go **** themselves with a pole.

 

[superturtle]

Shit, really? If that's true, then those editor's can go **** themselves with a pole.

Take it with a minor grain of salt, because I can't remember which interview that came from, but I do distinctly remember reading that in a translation. Mightve been from Jump Festa?

 

[Made in Heaven]

That makes them unique .. Sasuke is not type of guy who sits with his pals and chit chat . Naruto and Sasuke bond is really complex at times :

The last chapter of Sasuke's Monologue pretty much says wanted to be loved like everyone else he already acknowledged naruto but his goals hold him back . I think Sasuke was more realistic person to be out there ..

Their destiny is not like Ashura and Indra this is what Naruto said all along . There development of brotherly bond is the best thing i have read in any Manga .

Don't make me laugh. When was there any bonding between Naruto and Sasuke that could have possibly led up to such a grand and intense affection from Naruto to Sasuke? There wasn't, their relationship has no actual substance, no moments where they actually bond aside from VS Haku and the Forest of death and maybe the Gaara fight, but that's it. Their bond never had proper ddevelopment to lead up to such a relationship to begin with

Hence why Kishimoto had to make the uzumaki clan a noble and extinct clan like the Uchiha because paralells solve everything for him. Hence why all this Destiny nonsense came in just in order to weave Sasuke and Naruto's stories together. Hence why the Sharingan sealing away love plot device came up. Hence why the two were made incarnations and parallels of actual brothers, because the brotherly affection between Sasuke and Naruto was written like shit.

Now, a final nail on the coffin: Kishimtot himself has already said that he realizes he didn't write Naruto and Sasuke's relationship properly or well, and hence they tend to come off as lunatics to the readers. These are Kishimoto's own words on their relationship. So good game, but you lost.

 

[superturtle]

Don't make me laugh. When was there any bonding between Naruto and Sasuke that could have possibly led up to such a grand and intense affection from Naruto to Sasuke? There wasn't, their relationship has no actual substance, no moments where they actually bond aside from VS Haku and the Forest of death and maybe the Gaara fight, but that's it. Their bond never had proper ddevelopment to lead up to such a relationship to begin with

Hence why Kishimoto had to make the uzumaki clan a noble and extinct clan like the Uchiha because paralells solve everything for him. Hence why all this Destiny nonsense came in just in order to weave Sasuke and Naruto's stories together. Hence why the Sharingan sealing away love plot device came up. Hence why the two were made incarnations and parallels of actual brothers, because the brotherly affection between Sasuke and Naruto was written like shit.

Now, a final nail on the coffin: Kishimtot himself has already said that he realizes he didn't write Naruto and Sasuke's relationship properly or well, and hence they tend to come of as lunatics to the readers. These are Kishimoto's own words on their relationship. So good game, but you lost.

This right here is why I just can't find myself to care about the subpar shounen romance in the series. If he can't even develop his main bond of the story properly, why would I expect him to be able to develop romanve?

 

[Made in Heaven]

This right here is why I just can't find myself to care about the subpar shounen romance in the series. If he can't even develop his main bond of the story properly, why would I expect him to be able to develop romanve?

ShikaChoji still remains the best relationship in this series. GaiLee is a close second. I also like NaruSaku's relationship as well.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

I sort of have to agree with this. After reading some interviews, assuming they were real (I think they were though) Kishimoto seems more and more like a child. Some examples paraphrased:

Who is your favourite male? Naruto. Who is your favourite female? It would be weird to say since I created them and all but probably Hinata.

I think in one interview he said Hinata was a woman and she has nice breasts, and Sakura's good too he guesses.

Lastly, he said that he decided not to develop Sakura more because of her poor ratings in the polls. Even though her poor development was one of the reasons people hate her.

He gets embarrassed trying to draw romances, and sucks at female development, his words not mine.

He also said that other mangaka claim that he follows his editors too much and his editor changed after Sasuke got his mangekyou so right before the war arc which is where people argue that the quality dropped.

The romance thing is obviously a bullshit excuse to cover his laziness. He has Karin trying to rape Sasuke, implying that was the secret Suigetsu was talking about earlier. Then there is Naruto trying to seduce people with naked harems of women and men.

He shouldn't be embarrassed at romance.

 

[superturtle]

The romance thing is obviously a bullshit excuse to cover his laziness. He has Karin trying to rape Sasuke, implying that was the secret Suigets u was talking about earlier. Then there is Naruto trying to seduce people with naked harems of women and men.

He shouldn't be embarrassed at romance.

Regardless of the reason, he flat out sucks at it.

 

[Shanks]

Don't make me laugh. When was there any bonding between Naruto and Sasuke that could have possibly led up to such a grand and intense affection from Naruto to Sasuke? There wasn't, their relationship has no actual substance, no moments where they actually bond aside from VS Haku and the Forest of death and maybe the Gaara fight, but that's it. Their bond never had proper ddevelopment to lead up to such a relationship to begin with

Hence why Kishimoto had to make the uzumaki clan a noble and extinct clan like the Uchiha because paralells solve everything for him. Hence why all this Destiny nonsense came in just in order to weave Sasuke and Naruto's stories together. Hence why the Sharingan sealing away love plot device came up. Hence why the two were made incarnations and parallels of actual brothers, because the brotherly affection between Sasuke and Naruto was written like shit.

Now, a final nail on the coffin: Kishimtot himself has already said that he realizes he didn't write Naruto and Sasuke's relationship properly or well, and hence they tend to come of as lunatics to the readers. These are Kishimoto's own words on their relationship. So good game, but you lost.

Are you Kidding ??? I never read Kishi saying that .. You really think Sasuke should forget his goals of Revenge and go on adventure trip with his friends ..

No!!! This is the reason he was holding himself back you do remember when Taka was fighting Killer B . How do you think he awakened Amaterasu ??

He remembered his Bond of Team 7 .. He lost everyone and he feared love because he blames himself too much .

Tsunade Arc :The mental state Itachi put him into bringing his goals there was one point he was really bonding with everyone . He assumed loving People will put his goals back .

Sasuke's Retrival Arc: Sasuke Holding back and did not finish off Naruto .. Can you tell me Why?? Because deep down he did not want to lose his loved ones since he already lost many of them Already . Naruto was the closest bond he ever made ever since he lost his family ..

I find it hard you never understood their relationship in this point of View .

 

[Made in Heaven]

I sort of have to agree with this. After reading some interviews, assuming they were real (I think they were though) Kishimoto seems more and more like a child. Some examples paraphrased:

Who is your favourite male? Naruto. Who is your favourite female? It would be weird to say since I created them and all but probably Hinata.

I think in one interview he said Hinata was a woman and she has nice breasts, and Sakura's good too he guesses.

Lastly, he said that he decided not to develop Sakura more because of her poor ratings in the polls. Even though her poor development was one of the reasons people hate her.

He gets embarrassed trying to draw romances, and sucks at female development, his words not mine.

He also said that other mangaka claim that he follows his editors too much and his editor changed after Sasuke got his mangekyou so right before the war arc which is where people argue that the quality dropped.

The red part makes me laugh every time because it's so obvious he's lying .