Statewide Emergency! Baltimore protest turns violent!Gangs, National Guards, etc!

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That does not mean you would be allowed to derail the topic in another direction.

Useless arguing.

Again skating away from the point using a personal attack based on political correctness ... typical. You cant even face the facts that certain type of people act in certain ways.

Skating away from what problem? You said the only people that riot are ghetto, lack education, and are financially unstable. The fact that you said that means I don't have to continue this with you.

@Bold - Underlined, I'm dying.

Or your Racist Card Trigger gave a false positive. Relax.



Racist card? Man, what are you talking about Lol.
 

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Skating away from what problem? You said the only people that riot are ghetto, lack education, and are financially unstable. The fact that you said that means I don't have to continue this with you.

Yes I said and will again say that rioters and looters (Why else people would loot stores unless for financial gain?) are uneducated and uncivilized barbarians who are not quite rich ... qualities that quite abundant in poorer areas such as slums and ghettos.

So .. if you disagree, can you please explain how people who ruin other people's lives and livelihoods are civilized and sensible people? I would really like an explanation.
 

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Yes I said and will again say that rioters and looters (Why else people would loot stores unless for financial gain?) are uneducated and uncivilized barbarians who are not quite rich ... qualities that quite abundant in poorer areas such as slums and ghettos.

So .. if you disagree, can you please explain how people who ruin other people's lives and livelihoods are civilized and sensible people? I would really like an explanation.


You are a fool. I'm just not going to continue this because you're spewing nonsense on the level of Aim64C. If that was your hope, then you won Lol.

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I live right outside baltimore. It's not the protestors rioting it's their kids. The police are so busy making sure that the protestors remain calm the kids who now have no parental supervision or police presence to deter their self destructive behavior are enacting their own "purge" They need to reopen the damn schools. Keep the protests to school hours and enforce the damn curfew. Then when all the fires are out they can work on the protests. And believe me it's not just Freddie Grays death that caused this. Baltimore has been broken for a long time. They need to completely wipe out the standing cabinet and start from scratch. The corruption and mismanagement of Baltimore politicians is worse than Detroit in the 80s.
 
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This is the worst possible "solution." Massacres at the cost of innocent lives is not a solution, it's the quickest way to further unrest and an actual civil war, not even counting that it's the most evil choice to make.

I'm sorry, but history disproves your assertion. Rome fell when it embraced multiculturalism. It prospered when it beat the living shit out of everything that contested Rome. The most evil choices have already been made and you hail them as your salvation.

Which is why your future is filled with death and decay.

Just call in the National Guard to disperse violent actions

You mean like the police officers who were being attacked and shot at?

Do you have any idea what you will do with your decision?

The majority of the National Guard is "white." Blacks tend not to apply to join any branch of uniformed service. The national guard will move in and do... what?

The same thing the police were doing. Tell people to go home, get rocks thrown at them and shot at... and then what?

You begin escalating the force used. Out come the crowd control solutions that have been developed - from the acoustic ear-piercing solutions we've developed to the microwave weapons (if present).

Then what?

The Molotov cocktails start coming out. Guardsmen start getting set on fire - and the force scales up to lethal. People are shot in the street.

What will this be spun up to look like? A system of white control being used to oppress and extort the would-be-prosperous ghetto, or something that equates to division by zero. The call to arms goes out - and now we have a protracted conflict between State forces and local gangs that have rallied together to try and force out "the occupiers."

Palestine.

That is exactly the game they want us to play, that is exactly what they want to create. For decades, the assertion of state authority against gang territories will be used within black ghettos as fuel for recruitment into an American HAMAS, also known as the New Black Panthers.

Since these groups will intentionally only ever expose limited numbers of their members to active conflict - it is impossible to defeat them in a classic military operation or while treating them as being protected by Due Process of Law. The only way to resolve the issue is to basically go door-to-door and conduct extensive searches while making arrests on suspicion, alone.

Which will only escalate the response.

Just don't mess with all of it. Call their bluff and reduce the ghetto of the affected city and its population to ash.

Let it be known that the same fate awaits any region that repeats the same.

One of two things will happen. Either the blacks in ghettos who want to live and don't like these fools will start calling them out and straightening up.

Or they will go bonkers and start burning down their town - which quickly gets accelerated.

People, oddly enough, understand the concept of smite far better than they understand the concept of logical consequence. Beat someone over the head with a consequence he/she is powerless to prevent enough, and they start to figure it out. Give them the option to manage the degree to which the consequences afflict them - and the idea that they should avoid the consequence, entirely, gets replaced by the idea that they can destroy the consequence.

and politicians need to do their best to pacify the situation.

And how do they do that?

Again - words that mean nothing.

The politicians need to, first, shut up. Second - they need to let the people tasked with securing the city do just that.

Third - the only one who has any business speaking is the executive branch of the respective levels of government (Mayor, Governor). He/she can make two choices.

Either he/she can relinquish the authority of the office to the thugs by pleading wit them or trying to "understand" them.

Or he/she can enforce the laws the office serves by telling them that we don't do things that way in this country and that they will be treated like the third world if they are going to act like the third world.

It's really as simple as that. Either you give them the seat of power, or you chair the seat of power.

The Balt-no-more mayor yielded her seat of power and gave it to the thugs.

Ferguson did the same thing as did our governor who should feel lucky that the state auditor 'committed suicide.'
 

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I'm sorry, but history disproves your assertion. Rome fell when it embraced multiculturalism. It prospered when it beat the living shit out of everything that contested Rome. The most evil choices have already been made and you hail them as your salvation.

Hitler, Stalin, and many other dictators that would embrace massacres and brutality are not hailed as great leaders. Rome fell as well because of a further dissension into brutality, corruption, and disconnect between its leaders and its growing people. It lost its banner of patriotism partially due to this as well.

Acts against the people always eventually end in revolution and/or breaking of unity. History shows this time and time again. Again, we can't just kill people. It's not logical or ethical.
 

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You are a fool. I'm just not going to continue this because you're spewing nonsense on the level of Aim64C. If that was your hope, then you won Lol.

I made my opinion known and then I asked about yours and requested you to correct me if I am wrong .... and you proceeded with childish insults. And I am the one spewing nonsense .... typical.
 

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I made my opinion known and then I asked about yours and requested you to correct me if I am wrong .... and you proceeded with childish insults. And I am the one spewing nonsense .... typical.
You said all rioters ghetto, uneducated, and are financially unstable. If you don't understand why that's idiotic I can't help you. Regardless it's an opinion. You're going to have a teabagger opinion and I'm going to have my Conservatively-Liberal opinion.

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Hitler, Stalin, and many other dictators that would embrace massacres and brutality are not hailed as great leaders. Rome fell as well because of a further dissension into brutality, corruption, and disconnect between its leaders and its growing people. It lost its banner of patriotism partially due to this as well.

The mechanisms of a collapse are not quite the same as its cause:



"The historical truth, if any exists, is that Rome did not fall; rather, it evolved. Roman coloni (farmers tied to the land) gradually became Medieval serfs. The patron-and-client relationship, so central in Roman society, slowly assumed the name and nature of the lord-and-vassal bond, the social order underlying much of European society in the Middle Ages. So, if Rome fell, it was only in slow motion, very slow motion.

But change did come to Rome in the fifth century—as it has to every society in every century of human history—and a particularly drastic change it was. Many of the conventions which had once ruled the ancient Romans' lives evaporated, never to re-emerge. Primarily, citizenship in Rome offered little or no protection to its denizens, like membership in a club that was now defunct. That, in turn, precipitated an even more serious casualty, the loss of pride in being Roman, and of all things that perhaps lies at the heart of the problem. When being Roman no longer mattered, then being Greek or Dacian or German didn't either, and if their Romanness stopped giving people a sense of military or economic or racial superiority, what was the point of being Roman?

This bigotry, evidenced well before the fifth century, cuts to the heart of the myth about Rome's fall. In simple terms, the nationalistic propaganda of late Rome included a good element of racism which held that Germans, while useful in some respects, were fundamentally aliens, something less than Roman, to many in the day less than human. So when barbaric groups of Germans first defeated the Romans in battle, then captured Rome itself and finally assumed the mantle of Roman authority, it looked to those who saw "Roman" and "German" as mutually exclusive terms as if the Empire was no longer Roman, no longer an empire at all. But this was, in fact, a rationalization, an excuse concocted by the late Romans to cover their own complacency and lack of planning, which was, to be frank, rooted in laziness. Thus, lethargy and bias lurk behind the notion that 476 was a date of any supreme significance, much less the Armageddon of the classical world, the moment when "Rome fell." "


In short - Rome ceased being Rome.

The embracing of cultures other than the Roman culture as being a part of Rome is what ultimately destroyed Rome.

Borders. Language. Culture. Without those three things, you do not have a nation. This is why France was able to survive its bloody revolution. France was still French. Frenchmen still spoke French, and the culture was still French - even if there was an ideological cleansing.

Acts against the people always eventually end in revolution and/or breaking of unity. History shows this time and time again. Again, we can't just kill people. It's not logical or ethical.

Who is "the people?"

That, right there, is why you will be perpetually surprised and confused by the things that happen in the world.

There is no "people" to act against. There are persons.

There are many, many persons who are currently terrified. The police they pay for are given orders by political limp-dicks to stand-down and let stores and homes burn while people are bludgeoned in the street. The laws of the society we have made ourselves a member of mean nothing before the power of race riots.

That scares the shit out of people.

Unless the State does something to uphold its laws and make being a member of it worth the taxes - you can bet that what I just described will be the civilian response to riots in the coming years. People will take to the streets with their weapons and will kill the rioters - prompting a defensive response.

And our nation will descend into civil war as it has been planned.

Why would anyone ever want to live in a place like Boston - where they mayor says: "They need space to destroy" - your home. Your business. Your place of employment. Your favorite location to hang out.

Why pay taxes to a system that will not make due on its most basic of responsibilities to secure your property against large scale threats?

The reason why totalitarian states fail is because the succession of power eventually fails. Someone gets clever and usurps the authority. It has very little to do with brutality. North Korea is stupendously brutal to its citizens and has been one of the most successful totalitarian states in preserving its line of succession. It hasn't broken the unity of the people. In fact, it's only made them more unified. Everyone loves Kim. Those who don't are shown how affectionate hard labor is and learn to love being allowed to not do hard labor.

Likewise - Germany was exceptoinally unified under Hitler. Hitler capitalized on the German sense of their 'tribe' being smarter, stronger, and more capable than others (Racial Superiority and Nationalism are very similar concepts in Europe as one implies the other) to unify Germans against those who were of foreign ancestry in their midst (most notably, the Jews).

And the Germans conquered the bejeesus out of Europe, Asia, and Africa. If Hitler had been smarter in his strategy, much of the European world would be speaking German and paying taxes to Germany as if it were the seat of a second Roman Empire. Logically - there is a limit to how much Germany could practically conquer and keep under control - but vast portions of Europe had already accepted German occupation long before it became a "World War." Some countries would argue that having the Germans in charge of their districts was an improvement over what they had going on their own.

Germany didn't fail because they embraced "brutality" - but because they were impetuous in their drive for conquest. They over-extended and made far too many fronts for themselves. When America joined in the war - the only hope the Germans had at that point was fighting the U.S. to an economic stalemate - making it so costly to fight a war for Europe that we packed it up and went back home.

Basically - Hitler was stupid when it came to military strategy and assumed he could somehow rally the Germans to take on the whole world.

Stalin and Mao were both entirely successful in their cause.

Did they establish functional systems? No.

The point is that it was a group of persons who elevated the dictator to his/her status in the first place.

Likewise - Russia collapsed when there was no longer reason to be a part of Russia. When the acts of the government begin to make it so that people have to become criminals to survive or to go about their lives in any meaningful manner - then that government will eventually collapse. Distant populations will seek independence and local populations will seek revolution - a change of authority.

You will rarely find instances where a nation has a revolution and actually prevents its government from using death and destruction. In the case of Germany - the government was literally overthrown for the purposes of seeking conquest and of breaking out of the various treaties imposed after World War I.

Death and destruction are parts of the human instinct and, in some cases, part of the preservation of a society's laws. If someone is holding you down and raping your ass - you aren't going to be too concerned about the methods used to stop the violation against you. Maybe a favorite heirloom gets destroyed when Tifa Beat-rushes your assailant and half the stuff in your room as a consequence. It's unfortunate - but at least the rape is over and Tifa turned the perpetrator into a crater.

Society is much the same way. Perhaps blowing up a town is a little excessive, but at least you know that people who try to burn down your house or your store will not be tolerated and that your dislike of such behavior will be supported.

Right now, what happens?

You don't like the riots in Boston? Call them thugs? Well - you're a racist. Or you're an Uncle Tom (or... Aunt... Tristie?) "You" are part of the problem and need to 'understand' these people who are tearing things up.

But - you're still foolish enough to believe there is actually a United States of America.

That illusion will be coming to an end before much longer. Though I am sure it will surprise you when it does.
 

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You said all rioters ghetto, uneducated, and are financially unstable. If you don't understand why that's idiotic I can't help you. Regardless it's an opinion. You're going to have a teabagger opinion and I'm going to have my Conservatively-Liberal opinion.

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Professing superiority does not answer questions ... neither does insisting that the opponent is wrong. Thowing around lebels are even less effective in settling arguments.

I clearly stated that the Baltimore Rioters who looted and burned down building were the ghetto, uneducated, barbaric and mostly poor type, because I believe such actions can only be taken by scum of the society .... But can you state what your Conservatively-Liberal opinionated mind says on the matter? Its a clear question and I want a clear answer with a proper reason, not weaseling around and insisting I am wrong without any basis.
 
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The mechanisms of a collapse are not quite the same as its cause:



"The historical truth, if any exists, is that Rome did not fall; rather, it evolved. Roman coloni (farmers tied to the land) gradually became Medieval serfs. The patron-and-client relationship, so central in Roman society, slowly assumed the name and nature of the lord-and-vassal bond, the social order underlying much of European society in the Middle Ages. So, if Rome fell, it was only in slow motion, very slow motion.

But change did come to Rome in the fifth century—as it has to every society in every century of human history—and a particularly drastic change it was. Many of the conventions which had once ruled the ancient Romans' lives evaporated, never to re-emerge. Primarily, citizenship in Rome offered little or no protection to its denizens, like membership in a club that was now defunct. That, in turn, precipitated an even more serious casualty, the loss of pride in being Roman, and of all things that perhaps lies at the heart of the problem. When being Roman no longer mattered, then being Greek or Dacian or German didn't either, and if their Romanness stopped giving people a sense of military or economic or racial superiority, what was the point of being Roman?

This bigotry, evidenced well before the fifth century, cuts to the heart of the myth about Rome's fall. In simple terms, the nationalistic propaganda of late Rome included a good element of racism which held that Germans, while useful in some respects, were fundamentally aliens, something less than Roman, to many in the day less than human. So when barbaric groups of Germans first defeated the Romans in battle, then captured Rome itself and finally assumed the mantle of Roman authority, it looked to those who saw "Roman" and "German" as mutually exclusive terms as if the Empire was no longer Roman, no longer an empire at all. But this was, in fact, a rationalization, an excuse concocted by the late Romans to cover their own complacency and lack of planning, which was, to be frank, rooted in laziness. Thus, lethargy and bias lurk behind the notion that 476 was a date of any supreme significance, much less the Armageddon of the classical world, the moment when "Rome fell." "


In short - Rome ceased being Rome.

The embracing of cultures other than the Roman culture as being a part of Rome is what ultimately destroyed Rome.

Borders. Language. Culture. Without those three things, you do not have a nation. This is why France was able to survive its bloody revolution. France was still French. Frenchmen still spoke French, and the culture was still French - even if there was an ideological cleansing.



Who is "the people?"

That, right there, is why you will be perpetually surprised and confused by the things that happen in the world.

There is no "people" to act against. There are persons.

There are many, many persons who are currently terrified. The police they pay for are given orders by political limp-dicks to stand-down and let stores and homes burn while people are bludgeoned in the street. The laws of the society we have made ourselves a member of mean nothing before the power of race riots.

That scares the shit out of people.

Unless the State does something to uphold its laws and make being a member of it worth the taxes - you can bet that what I just described will be the civilian response to riots in the coming years. People will take to the streets with their weapons and will kill the rioters - prompting a defensive response.

And our nation will descend into civil war as it has been planned.

Why would anyone ever want to live in a place like Boston - where they mayor says: "They need space to destroy" - your home. Your business. Your place of employment. Your favorite location to hang out.

Why pay taxes to a system that will not make due on its most basic of responsibilities to secure your property against large scale threats?

The reason why totalitarian states fail is because the succession of power eventually fails. Someone gets clever and usurps the authority. It has very little to do with brutality. North Korea is stupendously brutal to its citizens and has been one of the most successful totalitarian states in preserving its line of succession. It hasn't broken the unity of the people. In fact, it's only made them more unified. Everyone loves Kim. Those who don't are shown how affectionate hard labor is and learn to love being allowed to not do hard labor.

Likewise - Germany was exceptoinally unified under Hitler. Hitler capitalized on the German sense of their 'tribe' being smarter, stronger, and more capable than others (Racial Superiority and Nationalism are very similar concepts in Europe as one implies the other) to unify Germans against those who were of foreign ancestry in their midst (most notably, the Jews).

And the Germans conquered the bejeesus out of Europe, Asia, and Africa. If Hitler had been smarter in his strategy, much of the European world would be speaking German and paying taxes to Germany as if it were the seat of a second Roman Empire. Logically - there is a limit to how much Germany could practically conquer and keep under control - but vast portions of Europe had already accepted German occupation long before it became a "World War." Some countries would argue that having the Germans in charge of their districts was an improvement over what they had going on their own.

Germany didn't fail because they embraced "brutality" - but because they were impetuous in their drive for conquest. They over-extended and made far too many fronts for themselves. When America joined in the war - the only hope the Germans had at that point was fighting the U.S. to an economic stalemate - making it so costly to fight a war for Europe that we packed it up and went back home.

Basically - Hitler was stupid when it came to military strategy and assumed he could somehow rally the Germans to take on the whole world.

Stalin and Mao were both entirely successful in their cause.

Did they establish functional systems? No.

The point is that it was a group of persons who elevated the dictator to his/her status in the first place.

Likewise - Russia collapsed when there was no longer reason to be a part of Russia. When the acts of the government begin to make it so that people have to become criminals to survive or to go about their lives in any meaningful manner - then that government will eventually collapse. Distant populations will seek independence and local populations will seek revolution - a change of authority.

You will rarely find instances where a nation has a revolution and actually prevents its government from using death and destruction. In the case of Germany - the government was literally overthrown for the purposes of seeking conquest and of breaking out of the various treaties imposed after World War I.

Death and destruction are parts of the human instinct and, in some cases, part of the preservation of a society's laws. If someone is holding you down and raping your ass - you aren't going to be too concerned about the methods used to stop the violation against you. Maybe a favorite heirloom gets destroyed when Tifa Beat-rushes your assailant and half the stuff in your room as a consequence. It's unfortunate - but at least the rape is over and Tifa turned the perpetrator into a crater.

Society is much the same way. Perhaps blowing up a town is a little excessive, but at least you know that people who try to burn down your house or your store will not be tolerated and that your dislike of such behavior will be supported.

Right now, what happens?

You don't like the riots in Boston? Call them thugs? Well - you're a racist. Or you're an Uncle Tom (or... Aunt... Tristie?) "You" are part of the problem and need to 'understand' these people who are tearing things up.

But - you're still foolish enough to believe there is actually a United States of America.

That illusion will be coming to an end before much longer. Though I am sure it will surprise you when it does.

People don't rally to brutality, that's why the power is always usurped. I can't believe in this day and age you're suggesting killing is the answer. It's not like police are there to stand idle whenever a riot does break out, however, they must allow non-violent protest to go on.

Aim you're a bright guy, but killing, especially at the cost of innocent lives is not even close to a solution. It's murder at best.
 

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Professing superiority does not answer questions ... neither does insisting that the opponent is wrong. Thowing around lebels are even less effective in settling arguments.

When did I say you were wrong? If I recall I said you have your opinion and I'll have mine. Not saying mine or yours is better.

I clearly stated that the Baltimore Rioters who looted and burned down building were the ghetto, uneducated, barbaric and mostly poor type, because I believe such actions can only be taken by scum of the society .... But can you state what your Conservatively-Liberal opinionated mind says on the matter? Its a clear question and I want a clear answer with a proper reason, not weaseling around and insisting I am wrong without any basis.

Ugh, you're backtracking. Why do right-wingers do this so much? You didn't say just the Baltimore rioters. You clearly labeled all rioters. You didn't say mostly poor-type, you said all financially unstable.

They are not justified in the rioting. They had no reason to do it. However, their frustration is understood(Some that did it for the right reason and not for personal gain, and there are plenty). When peaceful protests come, there will always be a faction that wants to cause harm because harm was done to them. For every MLK Jr. there will be a Malcolm X.

I'm glad a good portion of the rioters were arrested though, because rioting is simply not the way to fix social injustice. While peaceful protests are hardly working at all, they need to show the world the injustice. Someone needs to step up and lead these people to something greater than simple peaceful protests, and something more humble than rioting and looting.
 

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When did I say you were wrong? If I recall I said you have your opinion and I'll have mine. Not saying mine or yours is better.

Really? Calling someone a idiot over a opinions does not profess such a sentiment.


Ugh, you're backtracking. Why do right-wingers do this so much? You didn't say just the Baltimore rioters. You clearly labeled all rioters. You didn't say mostly poor-type, you said all financially unstable.

Really? We are in thread called 'Statewide Emergency! Baltimore protest turns violent!Gangs, National Guards, etc!' while I continuously mentioned people who looted and burned property ... but yet you reached a conclusion that I was talking about all rioters? Why are dumb****s are dumb****s I wonder.

They are not justified in the rioting. They had no reason to do it.

But there is but right? Typical.

However, their frustration is understood

Not to be forgiven.

(Some that did it for the right reason and not for personal gain, and there are plenty).


Oh how nice ... Tell me the nice reasons behind burning stuff down and looting. I guess Cops killed Eric for good reasons like that too.

When peaceful protests come, there will always be a faction that wants to cause harm because harm was done to them.

So? Does that mean they has to be tolerated when they act criminally? My own family was driven away from home penniless due to communal riots though they never did anything wrong .... you think ANYTHING justifies that?

For every MLK Jr. there will be a Malcolm X.

Does not mean it has to be tolerated.


While peaceful protests are hardly working at all, to step up and lead these people to something greater than simple peaceful protests, and something more humble than rioting and looting.

Like what? Taking the Law into their own hands and holding kangaroo courts of public opinion? You talk big but have no idea do you. Have you considered the fact that there is some unpleasant truths about a certain portion of the Black people? No other races cause so much noise even though USA is supposed to be racist ... heck Asians are respected and out earn nearly all other groups, why I wonder.
 
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Really? Calling someone a idiot over a opinions does not profess such a sentiment.

I never called you an idiot. I called your opinion idiotic.



Really? We are in thread called 'Statewide Emergency! Baltimore protest turns violent!Gangs, National Guards, etc!' while I continuously mentioned people who looted and burned property ... but yet you reached a conclusion that I was talking about all rioters? Why are dumb****s are dumb****s I wonder.

You literally said all rioters though. Lol. That's why I kept asking you if that's what you genuinely meant.


But there is but right? Typical.


Not to be forgiven.

Whatever the hell this is meant to mean.


Understanding doesn't mean agreeing.


Oh how nice ... Tell me the nice reasons behind burning stuff down and looting. I guess Cops killed Eric for good reasons like that too.

Constant social injustices leading to voices being unheard.

"A riot is the language of the unheard" ~ MLK Jr.

So? Does that mean they has to be tolerated when they act criminally? My own family was driven away from home penniless due to communal riots though they never did anything wrong .... you think ANYTHING justifies that?

You clearly are misinterpreting my stance on this. I have never justified their riots. I never said they are completely right in rioting. I said I understand their feelings. Rioting is never a good thing and should never be done.

Like what? Taking the Law into their own hands and holding kangaroo courts of public opinion? You talk big but have no idea do you. Have you considered the fact that there is some unpleasant truths about a certain portion of the Black people? No other races cause so much noise even though USA is supposed to be racist ... heck Asians are respected and out earn nearly all other groups, why I wonder.

Unpleasant truths about 'certain' black people... Of course you ding bat. Everyone knows there are certain black people that are cancers to society. I will literally be the first to tell you that. There are cancers in every single color group of the world. What you're saying is nothing new and has already been considered.
 

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People don't rally to brutality, that's why the power is always usurped.

People can rally for many different reasons. At the end of the day, however, one group insists the other group should behave or do something a certain way and is willing to use force to enforce that decision.

The only solution available is to resist that use of force with an escalating amount of force.

Human beings are tribal by nature. They will cling to common identities and ideologies in the face of force that threatens their livelihood.

The question is who has more force, or who is (or is perceived) to be the greater threat.

Hitler rallied the Germans against the Jews and against the rest of the world. How? Well, the fact that their economy was under very strict regulations by other nations made it pretty easy to convince Germans that their problems were being caused by the rest of the world. The fact that Jews tended to have successful businesses or be employed in banking or print/media industries made it very easy to also blame the poor state of the German economy on them.

Similar trends can be found in Stalin's revolution and in Mao's. They seized power by effectively pinning the nation's problems upon specific people and ideologies (true or untrue). These are the circumstances under which people unify - to kill a perceived threat.

I can't believe in this day and age you're suggesting killing is the answer.

Because our ancestors were primitive thugs who knew nothing?

Get over yourself.

It's not like police are there to stand idle whenever a riot does break out, however, they must allow non-violent protest to go on.

Citizens in America shall not be infringed of the ability to peacefully assemble.

Non-violence is not part of the criteria and is not part of the restriction against government involvement. There is far more to the term "peaceful" than simple non-violence.

Aim you're a bright guy, but killing, especially at the cost of innocent lives is not even close to a solution. It's murder at best.

In a society that has thrown law out the window - why should I flinch at the word "murder?"

If my home and family can be burned and killed while the police are told to stand down to give the poor misunderstood youth their room to destroy, why should I give a flying **** how many of them die in my efforts to prevent it?

What I am suggesting is not really "my" solution.

It is the impending and very real consequence hanging over this country's head. You all have absolutely no clue what kind of danger you are in.

Not from me.

From yourselves. You've no idea how your own hearts and minds operate and you are steering yourselves into a blood bath out of your own ignorant foolishness.

I suppose I shouldn't care. People stupid enough to do such things deserve to have their genetic lineage cut short and expunged from existence. But, I'm soft.
 

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People can rally for many different reasons. At the end of the day, however, one group insists the other group should behave or do something a certain way and is willing to use force to enforce that decision.

The only solution available is to resist that use of force with an escalating amount of force.

Human beings are tribal by nature. They will cling to common identities and ideologies in the face of force that threatens their livelihood.

The question is who has more force, or who is (or is perceived) to be the greater threat.

Hitler rallied the Germans against the Jews and against the rest of the world. How? Well, the fact that their economy was under very strict regulations by other nations made it pretty easy to convince Germans that their problems were being caused by the rest of the world. The fact that Jews tended to have successful businesses or be employed in banking or print/media industries made it very easy to also blame the poor state of the German economy on them.

Similar trends can be found in Stalin's revolution and in Mao's. They seized power by effectively pinning the nation's problems upon specific people and ideologies (true or untrue). These are the circumstances under which people unify - to kill a perceived threat.



Because our ancestors were primitive thugs who knew nothing?

Get over yourself.



Citizens in America shall not be infringed of the ability to peacefully assemble.

Non-violence is not part of the criteria and is not part of the restriction against government involvement. There is far more to the term "peaceful" than simple non-violence.



In a society that has thrown law out the window - why should I flinch at the word "murder?"

If my home and family can be burned and killed while the police are told to stand down to give the poor misunderstood youth their room to destroy, why should I give a flying **** how many of them die in my efforts to prevent it?

What I am suggesting is not really "my" solution.

It is the impending and very real consequence hanging over this country's head. You all have absolutely no clue what kind of danger you are in.

Not from me.

From yourselves. You've no idea how your own hearts and minds operate and you are steering yourselves into a blood bath out of your own ignorant foolishness.

I suppose I shouldn't care. People stupid enough to do such things deserve to have their genetic lineage cut short and expunged from existence. But, I'm soft.

And now I realized you are truly crazy. Murder, unnecessary use of extreme force, and intimidating governments are the only foolish ideas here. There is a lot more going on here than you are willing to see. Get over yourself and good day.
 
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