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Can we assume that Snoke is basically Darth Sidious reincarnated?

Is Ray really Luke's daughter and if so does he have more than one child?

Why is Kylo Ren or rather Ben Solo such a lame **** when they potrayed him as a badass Sith before the release?

Why exactly did Luke leave the republic instead of wiping the floor with Bens face and destroying the first order?


Discuss :)
 

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There's a theory that he is Darth Plagueis.

I'm guessing she is Luke's daughter, but she can very well be Kylo Ren's sister.

He had an inner confilct ( he said he felt the light pulling him while talking to Vader's mask)

Luke is ashamed that one of his students turned to the Dark Side, so he went off the grid.
 

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There's a theory that he is Darth Plagueis.

I'm guessing she is Luke's daughter, but she can very well be Kylo Ren's sister.

He had an inner confilct ( he said he felt the light pulling him while talking to Vader's mask)

Luke is ashamed that one of his students turned to the Dark Side, so he went off the grid.
@bold I guess I just wasn't pleased with the actor. Dat nose though XD
 

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Ben (Kylo Ren) is not polished, he is instable because he's not yet 100% converted to the dark side.
but after he killed Han, he could finally turn to the dark side for real - this is needed to get further training (on the dark side)
that's why Snoke said in the end; "it's time for Kylo Ren to get the proper training" or something like that ;3
(after he killed Han)

i think Rey is the sister of Ben... or Lukes Daughter...

as we know, Ben trained with Luke to become a Jedi but he turned on Luke & Probably killed all the remaining Jedis...

Luke felt guilty for this massacre and blamed himself for Ben turning to the dark side (being influenced by Snoke)

this is why Luke/Han/Leia had hidden Rey on Jakku and always stated that Luke was the last Jedi.
 
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Can we assume that Snoke is basically Darth Sidious reincarnated?
No Darth Sidious is gone, he can either be someone entirely new or Darth Plageous.

Is Ray really Luke's daughter and if so does he have more than one child?
I doubt Luke or anyone significant that's alive are her parents, her parents were probably a force sensitive group that were killed by Snoke. I believe Snoke was an ally to Luke until he turned to the dark side and seduced Ben.

Why is Kylo Ren or rather Ben Solo such a lame **** when they potrayed him as a badass Sith before the release?
He's young and unstable he's fighting with himself between the light and dark it's a clear indication on why he's not 100% ruthless as Vader was.

Why exactly did Luke leave the republic instead of wiping the floor with Bens face and destroying the first order?
Because that's his sister's son and his own blood, he probably felt ashamed that he couldn't save his own nephew. It's like watching your sister's son for the day while she goes to work and he gets kidnapped and after you tell your sister you'd never want her to see you from the shame you feel.
 

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No Darth Sidious is gone, he can either be someone entirely new or Darth Plageous.


I doubt Luke or anyone significant that's alive are her parents, her parents were probably a force sensitive group that were killed by Snoke. I believe Snoke was an ally to Luke until he turned to the dark side and seduced Ben.

He's young and unstable he's fighting with himself between the light and dark it's a clear indication on why he's not 100% ruthless as Vader was.


Because that's his sister's son and his own blood, he probably felt ashamed that he couldn't save his own nephew. It's like watching your sister's son for the day while she goes to work and he gets kidnapped and after you tell your sister you'd never want her to see you from the shame you feel.
It's reallly interesting tho that even though Kylo Ren wasn't as "ruthless" as Vader he (Vader) couldn't really ever cut out his loved ones (Luke), while Kylo Ren did (Han Solo). Vader couldn't bring himself to strike down his son even 20+ years after being a sith.

In Other words, Palpatine would have loved Kylo Ren, he has Anakins lineage and inherited great potential from him, but at the same time he is willing to cross that line that Anakin couldn't.

OT: I think if Snoke is anybody, it's Darth Plagueis, they even look the same ( albet tehcnically Darth plagueis design is now not canon, but the character is still canon).

Great movie jj Abrams, cheers to episode 8 and 9!!!!
 

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It's reallly interesting tho that even though Kylo Ren wasn't as "ruthless" as Vader he (Vader) couldn't really ever cut out his loved ones (Luke), while Kylo Ren did (Han Solo). Vader couldn't bring himself to strike down his son even 20+ years after being a sith.

In Other words, Palpatine would have loved Kylo Ren, he has Anakins lineage and inherited great potential from him, but at the same time he is willing to cross that line that Anakin couldn't.

OT: I think if Snoke is anybody, it's Darth Plagueis, they even look the same ( albet tehcnically Darth plagueis design is now not canon, but the character is still canon).

Great movie jj Abrams, cheers to episode 8 and 9!!!!
We have yet to see the whole story play out, I personally believe Kylo or Ben regretted killing his own father just by the look in his face and afterwards when he chases Rey and Finn down you we can clearly see he wasn't emotionally stable. I think he feels it's to late for him and that's why he killed Han not that he wanted to. And killing a son doesn't equate to the same emotional distress as killing a father, Killing a son as Vader never was able to that's like killing your own creation your second coming as where killing your father doesn't really have that level of weight.

Yeah great movie :)
 

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We have yet to see the whole story play out, I personally believe Kylo or Ben regretted killing his own father just by the look in his face and afterwards when he chases Rey and Finn down you we can clearly see he wasn't emotionally stable. I think he feels it's to late for him and that's why he killed Han not that he wanted to. And killing a son doesn't equate to the same emotional distress as killing a father, Killing a son as Vader never was able to that's like killing your own creation your second coming as where killing your father doesn't really have that level of weight.

Yeah great movie :)
Oh I'm not saying he didn't show it, he definitely had that watery eye sadness in his eyes, you could see it when Han touched his face one last time, he felt the pain. And I think the love of a father and the love of a son are two very strong (and equal) bonds/love. In either case, there is strong love between father and son in both ways, I want to know tho, what kinda relationship did Han and Ben have, remember when Kylo Ren was reading Reys mind and he said something to the effect of "you'd be better off with Han not being your dad" not exactly like that, but something like that. We will probably find out in the next movies.



Bold: Don't you find it interesting that Kylo Ren said the same thing to Han "It's to late for me" as Vader said to Luke in episode 6? Around the 2:52 min mark.


Btw, how would you rate Force awakens among the star wars movies? For me I think it goes like this

Episode 5
Episode 7
Episode 3/6
Episodes 6/3 (they are both equal to me, might prefer one over the other on a random day/hype mode)
Episode 4
Episode 1
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Episode 2


Lol.
 

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Can we assume that Snoke is basically Darth Sidious reincarnated?

Is Ray really Luke's daughter and if so does he have more than one child?

Why is Kylo Ren or rather Ben Solo such a lame **** when they potrayed him as a badass Sith before the release?

Why exactly did Luke leave the republic instead of wiping the floor with Bens face and destroying the first order?


Discuss :)

He is Darth Plagueis , the Sith that can bring life from the dead. as what Taximan said the character design is similar.

I don't think Rey is Luke's daughter.
We all know that Lucas declared that the EU is not Canon anymore.
Well, Abrams and kasdan patterned the characters and mix and match them in FA.

In EU , BEN is Luke' son now in FA BEN is Kylo Ren son of Han.
Then he should have a twin sister ( Jaina) . My theory is that , maybe here in the continuation of the saga Jaina is dead and the reason of Ben's hatred to his father.

Now, we have Rey. Her characteristic is similar to Jaina in EU . All mechanical and Badass. But I guess her character is patterned to be Tenel ka Djo. The princess of the
Hapan Tribe and who's mother is force sensitive.

Why she was abandoned? Because of her sensitivity to the force.

But you know ..they can twist and turn the events.. XD
Like Kylo will be redeem ..the explanation of the cross lightsaber.
 

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He is Darth Plagueis , the Sith that can bring life from the dead. as what Taximan said the character design is similar.

I don't think Rey is Luke's daughter.
We all know that Lucas declared that the EU is not Canon anymore.
Well, Abrams and kasdan patterned the characters and mix and match them in FA.

In EU , BEN is Luke' son now in FA BEN is Kylo Ren son of Han.
Then he should have a twin sister ( Jaina) . My theory is that , maybe here in the continuation of the saga Jaina is dead and the reason of Ben's hatred to his father.

Now, we have Rey. Her characteristic is similar to Jaina in EU . All mechanical and Badass. But I guess her character is patterned to be Tenel ka Djo. The princess of the
Hapan Tribe and who's mother is force sensitive.

Why she was abandoned? Because of her sensitivity to the force.

But you know ..they can twist and turn the events.. XD
Like Kylo will be redeem ..the explanation of the cross lightsaber.
There are explanations for the cross lightsaber. He uses the side beams in his fight with Finn to wound him, and a unique lightsaber design will sell more toys.
 

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Can we assume that Snoke is basically Darth Sidious reincarnated?

Is Ray really Luke's daughter and if so does he have more than one child?

Why is Kylo Ren or rather Ben Solo such a lame **** when they potrayed him as a badass Sith before the release?

Why exactly did Luke leave the republic instead of wiping the floor with Bens face and destroying the first order?


Discuss :)
1. I highly doubt that, so no, we can't.
2. I think she is his daughter.
3. He's not lame to me. His character is meant to be this angry kid who wants to be better than he actually is. I think he'll become the man he wants to be aka closer to Vader in terms of badness instead of wannabe badass in the next movies.
4. Because Luke was busy staring out in the distance.
 

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Can we assume that Snoke is basically Darth Sidious reincarnated?
Like others above have said, the popular theory is that Snoke is Darth Plageuis.

Is Ray really Luke's daughter and if so does he have more than one child?
We can't say for sure yet.. I prefer the theory that she was one of the disciples in Luke's new order before Kylo and the Knights of Ren wrecked everything.
Why is Kylo Ren or rather Ben Solo such a lame **** when they potrayed him as a badass Sith before the release?
... a lot of people have been complaining about Kylo/Ben as a villain. I'm not sure why.

The point of his character is to be living in Vader's Shadow; Vader can be seen as an unattainable goal for him. However, if you really, really dig deeper, we can begin to see how much Ben is dedicated to the cause, despite his inner conflict.

He killed his father to try and deepen his own connection to the dark side. Sure, he had remorse and regret in the -beautifully shot- scene prior, but he was cold and callous afterwards, signaling a drastic shift in his character. Even Vader/Anakin couldn't bring himself to kill Luke and tried to turn him to the Dark Side. Luke obviously won... but when Han tried to redeem his son, he met his end. It's almost like the complete opposite happened.

In terms of physical feats and endurance, Kylo took a full Chewie bowcaster blast TO HIS STOMACH. If you recall, this same bowcaster instantly killed ARMORED stormtroopers. Despite this crippling injury, he was still capable of handily beating Finn, a trained stormtrooper. Even his injuries sustained by Finn and Rey's hand were unable to knock him out completely.

Compare this to Obi-Wan in the prequels. He was out of commission after two precise lightsaber strikes from Dooku in Clones, and Sith repeated this with a simple push by the same character. I'm not saying Obi-Wan is weak, but Kylo is underestimated, in my opinion.

He stopped a freakin' blaster shot from Poe at the beginning.
Why exactly did Luke leave the republic instead of wiping the floor with Bens face and destroying the first order?
You want the personification of all that is good in Star Wars (Luke) to kill his own nephew? Not very characteristic of him. Again, as others have said, he felt guilty, and perhaps he wanted the Jedi legacy to die with him so that people like Ben would not arise from his mistakes.
 
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