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Man theres no way ssb goku stands a chance.

Baby was wiping the floor with ssj3 and when ssj4 goku came he completely dominated baby.

Baby had to go oozaru which is a 10x multiplier just to equal ssj4 goku. thats like a 100x stronger than ssj3.

Now imagine fusion

Two ssj4 warriors that are 100x stronger than a ssj3 fusing together.

We couldnt even see Gogeta's hits.

We can see ssb goku attacks perfectly fine. so can the other z fighters.

I just dont see ssb goku beating ssj4 gogeta. He just not their yet.

SSB Goku is more on Nova Shenron level.
 
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Devauzamaki said:
Super isnt canon
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It is, it's also got a manga adaption written by Akira Toriyama himself. Either way, the difference between SSJ3 Goku in a kid's body and SSJ4 Gogeta is incomparible, but SSJ3 Goku in his adult body and SSB Goku are also incomparible seeing how easily Beerus took him down in his SSJ3 form.

And what you can or can't see is only a way for the animators to hype up a new form but does not actually make them stronger, I mean we couldn't see Goku move when he wrecked Jeece and Burter when he arrived on Namek the first time, so going off your argument Namek Goku pre-Ginyu = SSJ4 Gogeta :3

But jokes aside, the speed being hyped isn't a valid argument to determine which is better and there isn't any actual reference to go off either so which of the two is stronger in the end.. nobody will ever know for sure.
 
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Tybone said:
It is, it's also got a manga adaption written by Akira Toriyama himself. Either way, the difference between SSJ3 Goku in a kid's body and SSJ4 Gogeta is incomparible, but SSJ3 Goku in his adult body and SSB Goku are also incomparible seeing how easily Beerus took him down in his SSJ3 form.

And what you can or can't see is only a way for the animators to hype up a new form but does not actually make them stronger, I mean we couldn't see Goku move when he wrecked Jeece and Burter when he arrived on Namek the first time, so going off your argument Namek Goku pre-Ginyu = SSJ4 Gogeta :3

But jokes aside, the speed being hyped isn't a valid argument to determine which is better and there isn't any actual reference to go off either so which of the two is stronger in the end.. nobody will ever know for sure.
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Super started off right after the buu saga right? if so base goku in GT was stronger then ssj3 goku at the end of buu saga.
 
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For the record, SS4 is supposed to be SS3 * 10.

At the start of Super, Goku fought 1% Beerus as a super saiyan 3. Even being extremely generous and saying that was even a fight, he managed to push Beerus to 70% in Super Saiyan God, so SSG has to be at least 70* stronger than SS3. At the very least, we know that SSG is the superior form to SS4.

The actual power levels of Goku in GT compared to Super are hard to place, since GT Goku has had more training but turned into a kid, while we have no reference comparing Super Saiyan God to Super Saiyan Blue except in the Manga where it seemed that Blue was stronger against Hit. On top of that, we don't know how powerful fusion characters are compared to their composites.
 
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SS4 is a better transformation in all aspects. I hate the new rainbow saiyans.

With that said, SSB uses god Ki and SS4 doesnt. Therefore just by that idea id say SS4 loses. But again its hard to say.

Could Gogeta SS4 beat golden frieza? Yeah I believe so. And fast at that. Proof? SSJ3 Goku struggled against Janemba. Got wrecked at that. SSJ gogeta basically one shotted Janemba. SSJ4 Gogeta IMO canon or not is the best transformation in the history of DB universe.
Still waiting on one of the fusions to come back.
 
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