SRA Naruto & Sasuke vs Kimimaro

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Location: Zexion's place
Distance: 20 meters
Intel: Manga
Mindset: Kimimaro wants to capture Sasuke, the team wants to get rid of him by any means

Naruto can access up to KN1 and Sasuke has his 3T Sharingan already unlocked.

S2: Kimimaro is healthy and bloodlusted
 

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if sasuke can read him chidori ends him in both cases.
 

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Kimi outclasses them for the most part and he can dodge or take most attacks the duo can dish out as well as regen from their attacks. The only problem Kimi would have a problem with would be Chidori and Rasengan but seeing as how both need to get close in order to land the hit, they run the risk of getting outclassed in CQC and not landing a kill shot. Kimi should be able to overwhelm the duo eventually with bone forest and a follow up attack being the final nail in the coffin
 

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Kimi outclasses them for the most part and he can dodge or take most attacks the duo can dish out as well as regen from their attacks. The only problem Kimi would have a problem with would be Chidori and Rasengan but seeing as how both need to get close in order to land the hit, they run the risk of getting outclassed in CQC and not landing a kill shot. Kimi should be able to overwhelm the duo eventually with bone forest and a follow up attack being the final nail in the coffin

kimmi isnt outclassing 3t cm2 sasuke tho. nor can his bones defend from chidori. he gets a hole put in his chest. Naruto only serves as a means to distract kimmi.
 

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I'm not sure why Kimimaro wouldn't outclass 3T CS2 Sasuke. He has Taijutsu that is described as unorthodox which is a perfect counter against the Sharingan and 3T CS2 Sasuke literally only has one-shot with Chidori. Missing that Chidori would lead to his demise which is plausible considering it is a linear attack that can be intercepted by moves such as Bone Forest. Without Chidori, CS2 Sasuke would more than likely be gravely wounded by his bones which extends Kimimaro's attack range and sprouts from almost every single area of his body.

However, I'm not sure how Kimimaro will fair against them both. Healthy Kimimaro would probably win, but it's hard to say whether or not Sick Kimimaro can win. If it's any consolation, Kimimaro has a 5 in Taijutsu and a 4.5 in speed even while ill, but he doesn't have any note worthy speed features illustrated in the manga at all.
 

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kimmi isnt outclassing 3t cm2 sasuke tho.

I don't see why Kimi doesn't. Kimi is better at Taijutsu then Sasuke thanks to his skills and with his ability to have bones pop out of his body from anywhere, I'm not see exactly what Sasuke can do in CQC without getting hurt or simply outclassed.

nor can his bones defend from chidori. he gets a hole put in his chest. Naruto only serves as a means to distract kimmi.

Never said they can. Thing is Sasuke has to hit Kimi's heart and outright kill him with his first Chidori otherwise if he misses and Kimi is still alive then that means that Sasuke's hand is stuck inside Kimi which leaves Sasuke wide open to being attacked at close range by Kimi's bones.
 

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nobody called his fighting style unorthodox(in fact its the opposite), Sharingan ensures sasuke landing his hit. Moreover if he considers recovery lee fast then sasuke who has better eyes than him and is faster than him is gonna end his life with chidori. Whats worse is that of kimmi using curse mark slows him down.
 

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nobody called his fighting style unorthodox(in fact its the opposite), Sharingan ensures sasuke landing his hit. Moreover if he considers recovery lee fast then sasuke who has better eyes than him and is faster than him is gonna end his life with chidori. Whats worse is that of kimmi using curse mark slows him down.

Databook 2 said:
Dance of the camellia

Kekkai genkai: taijutsu

User: Kimimaro

Offensive; Close ranges ; Rank: none.

Captions

-Disordered, disheveled, the bone short sword blooms into a blood-red flower!

-It exists for the sake of blooming to a blood-red flower!

Main text

-One pulls out a bone sword from bone pulse(refer to Gottheim's trans of Shikotsumyaku ), then stabs chaotically continuously which causes the eyes to lag behind! The speed resembles afterimages, the hand with the sword is again and again visibly projected. And yet movement is irregular which makes it difficult to predict.

-Yet one can have great reflexes and moving ability, it is next to impossible to keep dodging the fierce attack until it stops. Thus if one showed an opening in an instant, a finishing blow will be dealt by one stab, what follows is the fate to sacrifice blood when ones dies.


Picture comments

-To be capable of harmony with the five dances is relatively simple, only if you are Kimimaro!!

-With each thrust the sword's track is very capable of changing! The attack comes from unexpected angles ,causing to catch a person's delicate defense reaction off guard...!

Seems unorthodox to me.
 

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nobody called his fighting style unorthodox(in fact its the opposite),

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It's one of those self statements like when A said he was the fastest man alive when Minato kicked the bucket for example.

Sharingan ensures sasuke landing his hit.

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The Sharingan doesn't allow Sasuke to magically land all the hits he want, he's still gonna have to get through Kimi's bone defense which means he'll ran the risk of hitting himself. Only thing he can do is Chidori.

Moreover if he considers recovery lee fast then sasuke who has better eyes than him and is faster than him is gonna end his life with chidori.

Kimi could deal with Lee's speed until he got drunk and started using the drunken fist, Sasuke who fights in a more linear fashion shouldn't be much of a problem for Kimi to deal with at all, especially if he runs in a straight line to use Chidori.

Whats worse is that of kimmi using curse mark slows him down.

No such thing was actually mention in the Viz(the official) scans and even then that would only apply to his CS2 form
 

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It's one of those self statements.

Id rather goo off what other people say about his style than him:
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The Sharingan doesn't allow Sasuke to magically land all the hits he want, he's still gonna have to get through Kimi's bone defense which means he'll ran the risk of hitting himself. Only thing he can do is Chidori.

that's the thing where lee's fists stop sasuke's chidori continues. Its not a means of defense to stop chidori. it would simply cut through the bones in his way:
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Thats sasuke catching garra through 2 layers of sand and as lee said sasuke can see(even with 2 tome let alone 3)the counter:
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i fail to see how kimmi bones fare any different.

Kimi could deal with Lee's speed until he got drunk and started using the drunken fist, Sasuke who fights in a more linear fashion shouldn't be much of a problem for Kimi to deal with at all, especially if he runs in a straight line to use Chidori.
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even when not drunk kimmi realizes his speed even though he's slower due to injuries, slow enough for garra to tell the difference:
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No such thing was actually mention in the Viz(the official) scans and even then that would only apply to his CS2 form

If he hadn't slowed down then he wouldn't have let lee get behind him but he failed.

So kimmi has to fast someone faster that what he already considered impressive, and said person has the benefit of seeing counters, reading movements, and an attack that cant be absorbed or blocked by bones.

Oh and naruto is there too.
 
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Cursed Seal does slow down the user, but only at the user's discretion. The only logical thing I can think of is that fortifying his bones and causing them to thicken/harden as a result would slow him down as does Kakuzu when he fortifies his skin using Domu. It doesn't necessarily mean Kimimaro will slow down, it's contingent upon how he uses his bones. He slowed down against Gaara because he could not escape the AoE of his sand and needed the durability and power to surmount it whereas that's not the case against Sasuke and potentially Naruto as well.
 

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Cursed Seal does slow down the user, but only at the user's discretion. The only logical thing I can think of is that fortifying his bones and causing them to thicken/harden as a result would slow him down as does Kakuzu when he fortifies his skin using Domu. It doesn't necessarily mean Kimimaro will slow down, it's contingent upon how he uses his bones. He slowed down against Gaara because he could not escape the AoE of his sand and needed the durability and power to surmount it whereas that's not the case against Sasuke and potentially Naruto as well.
Maybe for cm1, not for sm 2. It transforms the body so yeah in kimmis case, he slows down.
 

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Naruto and Sasuke win. If Kimimaro couldn't consistently evade 1st Gate Lee's attacks he's not going to dodge Naruto and Sasuke attacking in tandem, both who are faster than that version of Lee by a landslide. That and he doesn't have the defensive power to withstand 1TK Rasengan and Black Chidori.

Bone Forest and other projectiles can be dodged or straight up blocked due to the increase in defensive power they have, most notably Sasuke.
 

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Id rather goo off what other people say about his style than him:
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Did you bother to pay attention to the two scans and the context behind them? Kimi was using pure Taijutsu with just a bone sword when Lee made that comment. When Kimi was actually using his KG it's was then considered unorthodox. You'd have to be pretty bias against Kimi to ignore the difference in the two fighting styles to say his fighting style isn't unorthodox.

that's the thing where lee's fists stop sasuke's chidori continues. Its not a means of defense to stop chidori. it would simply cut through the bones in his way:
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Thats sasuke catching garra through 2 layers of sand and as lee said sasuke can see(even with 2 tome let alone 3)the counter:
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i fail to see how kimmi bones fare any different.

As I've said multiple times, I agree. But that's the thing though, all you have is Chidori and even then if he doesn't hit the heart then he'll be wide open to an attack from Kimi.

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even when not drunk kimmi realizes his speed even though he's slower due to injuries, slow enough for garra to tell the difference:
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Kimi realizing Lee's speed doesn't mean he had trouble with it upon which as you saw Kimi easily stopped Lee's attack with his bones as if it was nothing and outright dodged him if he was sober.




If he hadn't slowed down then he wouldn't have let lee get behind him but he failed.

So kimmi has to fast someone faster that what he already considered impressive, and said person has the benefit of seeing counters, reading movements, and an attack that cant be absorbed or blocked by bones.

Oh and naruto is there too.

Kimi just ran through Gaara's defense and was focusing on Gaara, that's why Lee got behind him and Lee commented and told Kimi that Gaara isn't his only enemy.
 

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Did you bother to pay attention to the two scans and the context behind them? Kimi was using pure Taijutsu with just a bone sword when Lee made that comment. When Kimi was actually using his KG it's was then considered unorthodox. You'd have to be pretty bias against Kimi to ignore the difference in the two fighting styles to say his fighting style isn't unorthodox.
im a biased guy.



As I've said multiple times, I agree. But that's the thing though, all you have is Chidori and even then if he doesn't hit the heart then he'll be wide open to an attack from Kimi.
kimmi isn't surviving it tho. That's the point. You're making it seem as if chidori isn't set up to be a 1 hit kill move. As long as it lands anywhere in kimmi's chest its imminent death and the first scenario he doesn't wanna kill sasuke, even if he does then he still has a hole in his chest when fighting naruto.

Kimi realizing Lee's speed doesn't mean he had trouble with it upon which as you saw Kimi easily stopped Lee's attack with his bones as if it was nothing and outright dodged him if he was sober.
that was cm1 kimmi and again that lee is farr slower than sasuke or naruto. If he considers that impressive then sasuke ends him.






Kimi just ran through Gaara's defense and was focusing on Gaara, that's why Lee got behind him and Lee commented and told Kimi that Gaara isn't his only enemy.
that's a weak excuse since cm1 kimmi reacted to him easily.
 

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Naruto and Sasuke win. If Kimimaro couldn't consistently evade 1st Gate Lee's attacks he's not going to dodge Naruto and Sasuke attacking in tandem, both who are faster than that version of Lee by a landslide. That and he doesn't have the defensive power to withstand 1TK Rasengan and Black Chidori.

Bone Forest and other projectiles can be dodged or straight up blocked due to the increase in defensive power they have, most notably Sasuke.

Do you think naruto's v1 chakra arms strong enough to break bone forest in a large sweep like sasuke did w/ susanoo?
 

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Do you think naruto's v1 chakra arms strong enough to break bone forest in a large sweep like sasuke did w/ susanoo?

Sasuke was ragdolled by that attack and recuperated relatively quickly, so likely not.
 
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