(Spoilers) Why is Bolt using....

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Then rinnegan can see chakra point for sure

Possibly, I mean it should but I don't see it ever being confirmed so... plus that's not Sharingan. I won't lie I thought that same thing you think when someone mentioned it to me, the sharingan should be able to memorize and mimic the locations of the hits during Gentle Fist which in turn would allow them to identify the chakra points but one of the other users posted a manga page where it says it doesn't work. So idk.

 

[TrollKing]

Proof?

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Rinnegan can see anything, even bacteria

 

[TrollKing]

Possibly, I mean it should but I don't see it ever being confirmed so... plus that's not Sharingan. I won't lie I thought that same thing you think when someone mentioned it to me, the sharingan should be able to memorize and mimic the locations of the hits during Gentle Fist which in turn would allow them to identify the chakra points but one of the other users posted a manga page where it says it doesn't work. So idk.

10/10 post. Yes sharingan can mimic movement, but this is too technical that kishi didn't think about at all, so we will leave to to hyuuga special ability. Though I don't see why rinnegan cannot except restriction due to kishi created an eye that is too strong

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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Rinnegan can see anything, even bacteria

The gates are different from the chakra points. Even sharingan could see that in part 1 while kakashi explicitly said he can't see tenketsu.

 

[To Whatever]

Sharingan sees body veins and cells

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How tf can u see Veins and cells but not the coils and points....

 

[xxSAGExx]

What if Bolt version of the gentle fist spreads a wide blast of chakra that hits the inner coils around organs. Bolt would only need to know where the Organs are in this case. Kishi could wearily say that Bolt's eyes can do what the Byakugan can do since he's a hybrid Hyuuga (first we've seen).

 

[Venomous Cobra]

True true. him learning it for close quaters use is just bad tho.



no it's for the easily rustled like yourself. This way you guys won't spam the thread with nonsense posts like these.


Yeah hopefully so and hopefully Sasuke makes him pick up a sword as well. ^^


Yeah right you disliked the thread before. :lol: It's easy to tell why you disliked it too. Blind fanboyism is hard to cure.


Wrong. Written on the page you posted "Hyuuga causes damage by flowing their chakra into the inner coils".

lol yes it does that but it can also destroy internal organs, or are you going to ignore the other half of the quote just to to downplay brouto>?

 

[Perlmutter]

If anything you should compare the little air push he did to be closer to Gai's 8 gate air cannon punches. Makes more sense than gentle fist.

 

[Dantee]

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Rinnegan can see anything, even bacteria

That's a pretty cool feat I forgot. I'm going to have to look into that later.

What if Bolt version of the gentle fist spreads a wide blast of chakra that hits the inner coils around organs. Bolt would only need to know where the Organs are in this case. Kishi could wearily say that Bolt's eyes can do what the Byakugan can do since he's a hybrid Hyuuga (first we've seen).

That would be pretty interesting to see. I hope Bolt is using a improvised version like you said or he has a watered down Byakugan. Can see coils but no 360 vision.

lol yes it does that but it can also destroy internal organs, or are you going to ignore the other half of the quote just to to downplay brouto>?

What other half? All you said was that Bolt can damage the inner organs without attacking the coils which is completely false.

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The inner coils surround the organs and that is what gentle fist users target. Quit spreading your fallacy.

If anything you should compare the little air push he did to be closer to Gai's 8 gate air cannon punches. Makes more sense than gentle fist.

Yeah I agree.

That would be my mistake then, when I read it it came across as if you were saying he couldn't transplant a Byakugan.

It's cool bro. Anyone can transplant any dojutsu so thats would be incorrect to say he couldn't.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

That's a pretty cool feat I forgot. I'm going to have to look into that later.


That would be pretty interesting to see. I hope Bolt is using a improvised version like you said or he has a watered down Byakugan. Can see coils but no 360 vision.



What other half? All you said was that Bolt can damage the inner organs without attacking the coils which is completely false.

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The inner coils surround the organs and that is what gentle fist users target. Quit spreading your fallacy.


Yeah I agree.


It's cool bro. Anyone can transplant any dojutsu so thats would be incorrect to say he couldn't.

Ehhm, you don't understand what hyuuga can do do you? He can push chakra out of his hands and target those internal organ inside ones body.

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Not to mention that even without seeing them, he can just attack the ones that are close the organ he wants to destroy since the chakra pathways are spread around the humans body in a large number making them hard to miss.

 

[Dantee]

Ehhm, you don't understand what hyuuga can do do you? He can push chakra out of his hands and target those internal organ inside ones body.

That's not how it works bro. If he's not attacking the coils the best he will be doing is external damage just like regular taijutsu.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

That's not how it works bro. If he's not attacking the coils the best he will be doing is external damage just like regular taijutsu.

No. You're limiting the style to only locking chakra pathways while in fact you can do more than that

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Look at this^^ panel for example, neji didn't lock zetzu's chakra pathway yet he started his attack with "gentle fist" ccausing physical damage to the opponent by pushing chakra out of every single part of his body. which is basically what bolt can do but only using one arm and targeting the organ of his preference

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Not to mention that even without seeing them, he can just attack the ones that are close the organ he wants to destroy since the chakra pathways are spread around the humans body in a large number making them hard to miss

 

[Dantee]

No. You're limiting the style to only locking chakra pathways while in fact you can do more than that

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Look at this^^ panel for example, neji didn't lock zetzu's chakra pathway yet he started his attack with "gentle fist" ccausing physical damage to the opponent by pushing chakra out of every single part of his body. which is basically what bolt can do but only using one arm and targeting the organ of his preference

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Not to mention that even without seeing them, he can just attack the ones that are close the organ he wants to destroy since the chakra pathways are spread around the humans body in a large number making them hard to miss

I can't believe you are actually posting the facts the make you wrong and then taking the liberty of adding your own fanfic :lol: As if you didn't read the thread Lets go over this again shall we.
1st of all no one is denying you can do damage with gentle fist w/o byakugan. I'm only saying he can't use it effectively. That zetsu scan is irrelevant because that's just full body blow not really gentle fist style.

2ndly Inner coils surround the organs and this is what hyuugas atttack to damage organs. Even in the scan you posted to prove your point it says those with the byakugan can see it, gentle fist causes damage to inner coil system. :lol


3rdly, going back to what I even showed in my OP.

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LEE states right here how damage to the inner coils causes damage to the organs. At best Bolt will be causing external damage not internal.


This scan proves they are invisible and Hyuugas don't rely on luck to strike down their opponents not sure where you're getting your information from at this point.

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[NinjaMunster]

Wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly "awaken" the byakugan in the movie.....

 

[Dantee]

Wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly "awaken" the byakugan in the movie.....

Same Kishi loves to asspull.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Same Kishi loves to asspull.

Well this wouldn't be too much of an asspull since Bolt is the first hybrid Hyuuga we've seen plus you can factor in that Naruto has Hagoromo chakra while Hinata has/had Hamura's chakra which pretty much adds up to Kaguya's chakra; so it wouldn't be hard to see Bolt and/or his sister to awaken a hybrid Byakugan, new doujutsu, or the Tenseigan. I personally would like for Bolt to have the Byakugan which can turn into the Tenseigan; have the Byakugan change the eyes from normal to doujutsu like the Sharingan. A hybrid Byakugan could be Bolt focusing chakra into his eyes to use his version of the Byakugan and all of its abilities.

 

[Dantee]

Well this wouldn't be too much of an asspull since Bolt is the first hybrid Hyuuga we've seen plus you can factor in that Naruto has Hagoromo chakra while Hinata has/had Hamura's chakra which pretty much adds up to Kaguya's chakra; so it wouldn't be hard to see Bolt and/or his sister to awaken a hybrid Byakugan, new doujutsu, or the Tenseigan. I personally would like for Bolt to have the Byakugan which can turn into the Tenseigan; have the Byakugan change the eyes from normal to doujutsu like the Sharingan. A hybrid Byakugan could be Bolt focusing chakra into his eyes to use his version of the Byakugan and all of its abilities.

Hybird Byakugan is one thing but
Tenseigan is going a bit far don't you think? I take the word asspull back for hybrid Byakugan but Tenseigan required 1000 byakugans or something like that right? That would definitely be an asspull imo. Hybrid Byakugan tho sounds dope I hope Kishi did implement that.

 

[farhca]

Honestly it was a pain reading through this thread, the discussion here can be called pointless at best because the question argued about here can be easily answered by logic, to the people saying that the gentle fist used by Boruto is less effective than the ordinary taijutsu I just wanna say that if that's the case then why would he use it in the first place? why would Boruto go through the trouble of using this unusual style that resembles the hyuga's taijutsu art if he can be more effective by just punching with his fists, it just doesn't make sense, only a stupid brainless guy would do that, Boruto can be called a brat or whatever but nobody can call him stupid especially when it comes to fighting so everyone just chill, there will be a good explanation in the movie as to why Kishi gave him this fighting style cause I'm pretty sure it's not some just-for-show petty moves.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Hybird Byakugan is one thing but
Tenseigan is going a bit far don't you think? I take the word asspull back for hybrid Byakugan but Tenseigan required 1000 byakugans or something like that right? That would definitely be an asspull imo. Hybrid Byakugan tho sounds dope I hope Kishi did implement that.

I hope so too. Well I said Tenseigan because it's a special case right now, it's an offspring of a Hyuuga who has/had Hamura chakra and a Uzumaki who has Hagoromo chakra. Sasuke getting just Hagoromo's Yin chakra gave him 1 higher level Rinnegan (I see the 6T Rinnegan being stronger than 1 normal Rinnegan but not stronger than 2 normal Rinnegans) so if the chakra of Hamura and Hagoromo were to somehow mix as Bolt was created then it should have some type of affect right? Hinata=eyes and Naruto=body so what if Bolt gets both or he gets one and his sister gets the other; who knows.

Also I read that Toneri got it just by using Hanabi's Byakugan; wikia says when the Byakugan and chakra from an Otsutsuki member awakens the Tenseigan. Hinata has the Byakugan and was given Hamura's chakra who was an Otsutsuki member who had the first Tenseigan. So Bolt being able to awaken the Tenseigan can be explained as Bolt recieving a hybrid Byakugan and both of his parents has/had Otsutsuki member chakra.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Reposting this because thread was deleted for such a petty reason. I took the liberty of adding some more facts as to why Bolt cannot use this technique to it's full potential.Spoilers about the movie below.




I once said it was possible to use gentle fist without Byakugan to Hyuuga fans who liked to give Byakugan pointless abilities when comparing it to the sharigan. However, using gentle fist without byakugan is just fail and there is no logical way Bolt is using that ability effectively prodigy or not.



Before you guys start rioting just at the facts and what I have to say.




Gentle fist style is awesome. It's arguably the strongest taijutsu style.

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However the inner coils is not at all visible.

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Byakugan gives you sight that surpasses the 3t sharigan, that allows you see the inner coils in a persons chakra system.

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The reason why Hyuugas are so effective with gentle fist is because of this ability. Using their knowledge and sight of the chakra system they know exactly where to strike and take down an opponents use of chakra.


Not even moves like air palm can be used effectively without pinpointing the pressure points.

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If Bolt is using gentle fist and doesn't have the byakugan the technique loses it's effectiveness.He would have just been better off learning rock lees taijutsu or kenjutsu like Sasuke did.


I'm not bashing Bolt here but there is logically no way he can use gentle fist on the same level as Hinata/Neji and other Hyuuga members. This is strictly Kishi's fault for not thinking clearly when making Bolts arsenal.

So true,Kishi said he forgot to give then the Byakugan,he made too many fails in the manga...
I think he lost his talent!