Spoilers: The Ōtsutsuki are hypocites.

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After watching The Last yesterday, I came to a realization: The Ōtsutsuki clan is hypocritical. Here is why:

As we know, they interpreted Hamura's celestial decree as meaning that they should judge humanity after 1000 years and destroy them if it was found that humanity was using chakara for militant and evil purposes. Yet, the Ōtsutsuki themselves used it for militant purposes! They were clearly having some type of war with that sun clan that they wiped out with one shot of the tenseigan! Additionally, the Ōtsutsuki even had internal warfare, as it was stated in the movie that the branch house of the clan wiped out the main house! The fact that Toneri was the last one alone shows that they have their own history of violence. Furthermore, it was the Ōtsutsuki clan (even on Earth) that caused the main problems of the series that led to said fighting that Toneri referred to.

Kaguya put nations of the world under the infinite tsukuyomi and even plagued the world as the juubi! She also created Black Zetsu that manipulated many events in history. It is self explanatory how Kaguya caused problems.

Indra and Asura are the ones who started the war that lasted for centuries! They are Ōtsutsukis mind you.

This is not even to mention the fact that any crimes committed by an Uchiha, Senju, Hyuuga, Uzumaki or Kaguya clan member also go under the category of Ōtsutsuki crimes since all of these clans actually descend from the Ōtsutsuki.

In short, the Ōtsutsuki have caused plenty of malevolence both on Earth and in space, yet they dare feel that they have a right to judge humans. That is very hypocritical.
 

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I don't remember the uzumaki clan committing any crimes.
 

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I think it's more like the Ootsutsuki - or Kaguya, to be precise, simply claimed ownership of chakra, and didn't like that humans started using it, period, not because they used it for war, which I believe is something Hagoromo said. I still think this clan is among the worst things that happened to Naruto. I didn't understand the part about the Sun clan, though, is it only mentioned in ''The Last''? Well, i'll take your word for it.

Can you give me your rating of the movie, by the way?
 

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The Otsutsuki are priests. They don't commit violence.
 

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Why are you talking about the misinterpreted decree?
 

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Best thing I heard were that their sealing/sealing methods were bad.

Yeah, I think kushina described their methods as crude and savage.
 

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Yeah, I think kushina described their methods as crude and savage.

Yeah that's it. I don't know what that entails, but I'm not sure if their methods were considered crimes per se.
 

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Correction, the A-holes in the branch Ootsutsuki clan are hypocritical. The main Ootsutsuki clan were defending earth.
 

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Don't worry, the movie isn't canon. Listen to Pikachu's Samurai song for 10 hours to wash it clean from your mind.
 

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I think it's more like the Ootsutsuki - or Kaguya, to be precise, simply claimed ownership of chakra, and didn't like that humans started using it, period, not because they used it for war, which I believe is something Hagoromo said. I still think this clan is among the worst things that happened to Naruto. I didn't understand the part about the Sun clan, though, is it only mentioned in ''The Last''? Well, i'll take your word for it.

Can you give me your rating of the movie, by the way?

The movie was awesome. I loved the action and the power of the tenseigan. Yes there is romance, so for anyone who absolutely hates romance, I don't recommend it. There was some great action too though. Anyway, about your comment about Kaguya and the quality of the story: I have to disagree with you on your stance that the Ōtsutsuki made it worse. The Ōtsutsuki made it 1000 times more epic! It made room for so much epic power as well as so much prospect. Even if we never get to see it, I love the idea of alien ninja star wars! There is just so much room for imagination and fanfic. I love it. Sure there are a few plot points that became confusing, but it wasn't too bad. Furthermore, the power of senjutsu of the six paths, rinnegan, rinne sharingan, juubi, the chakara fruit, tenseigan, etc... just entertain me to no end!

P.s. It wasn't just Kaguya that wanted to take chakara away from humanity. In the movie it is revealed that the Ōtsutsuki clan on the moon saw humanity as using chakara for evil and wanted to destroy humans (thinking that they were fulfilling Hamura's will).

The Otsutsuki are priests. They don't commit violence.

Only Hagoromo was a priest, not the whole clan. The Ōtsutsuki commits plenty of violence. Watch the movie and you will see.

You already know about the violence of Kaguya, Indra and Asura. What you may or may not know is the fact that the Ōtsutsuki (like the Hyuuga) were also divided into a main house and branch house, and the branch house wiped out the main house. You may also not know about the sun clan that they wiped out in one shot!

I don't remember the uzumaki clan committing any crimes.

There was Nagato who was the figurehead of Akautski under Obito and there is Karin who supported Sasuke in trying to capture Bee and attacking the 5 kage summit. Besides, I wasn't saying that they in particular committed any specific crimes. I was just saying that anything that they may have done falls under the category of Ōtsutsuki crimes.

Hamura uses natural energy not chakra as a weapon.

Six paths yin power and gudoudamas consist of chakara. The tenseigan even gives you tenseigan "chakara" mode. Sage chakara is also still considered chakara. Besides, I am talking about the Ōtsutsuki in general, not just Hamura.

Why are you talking about the misinterpreted decree?

Because, that misinterpretation led to the Ōtsutsuki hypocritically judging humanity for using chakara for war when they themselves used chakara for war (which is the point of this thread).
 
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There was Nagato who was the figurehead of Akautski under Obito and there is Karin who supported Sasuke in trying to capture Bee and attacking the 5 kage summit. Besides, I wasn't saying that they in particular committed any specific crimes. I was just saying that anything that they may have done falls under the category of Ōtsutsuki crimes.



Six paths yin power and gudoudamas consist of chakara. The tenseigan even gives you tenseigan "chakara" mode. Sage chakara is also still considered chakara. Besides, I am talking about the Ōtsutsuki in general, not just Hamura.



Because, that misinterpretation led to the Ōtsutsuki hypocritically judging humanity for using chakara for war when they themselves used chakara for war (which is the point of this thread).
That was the branch house. The main house believed in the true decree. Isn't that why they were fighting?
 
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Don't worry, the movie isn't canon. Listen to Pikachu's Samurai song for 10 hours to wash it clean from your mind.

The movie is canon and I loved it, so no I will not wash it out. Also Kishi himself stated it to be 699.5.
 

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Yeah that's it. I don't know what that entails, but I'm not sure if their methods were considered crimes per se.

Hmm, the problem is we don't have much info on them.

There was Nagato who was the figurehead of Akautski under Obito and there is Karin who supported Sasuke in trying to capture Bee and attacking the 5 kage summit. Besides, I wasn't saying that they in particular committed any specific crimes. I was just saying that anything that they may have done falls under the category of Ōtsutsuki crimes.
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Karin and nagato are only two characters, it is too much of stretch to link their crimes to their entire clan. That is like saying the shimura clan were just as guilty as danzo.
 

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That was the branch house. The main house believed in the true decree.

I never saw that in the movie. It just said the Ōtsutsuki clan misinterpreted the decree. I never saw it distinguish which house in particular misinterpreted things. In fact the only time in the movie in which the house system was brought up is when Hamura told Hinata that the branch destroyed the main house.
 

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I never saw that in the movie. It just said the Ōtsutsuki clan misinterpreted the decree. I never saw it distinguish which house in particular misinterpreted things. In fact the only time in the movie in which the house system was brought up is when Hamura told Hinata that the branch destroyed the main house.
Well, hamura told hinata toneri/branch house misinterpreted his decree. That's why he wanted her to stop toneri.
 
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