[Discussion] **spoilers** Dragon Claw!!!

[shon93]

well for one Roger comes to mind



though contrary to a vast majority of ppl, I don't think Roger is a level above Dragon

I know I'll take a lot of shit for saying this but I think your a level headed dude I think Dragon is stronger I think he will be what Madara is to the 5 hokages. Think about it he has to be he wants to change the world and you have to have immense willpower/haki to do that not to mention his physical strength and hand to hand combat will be at prime garp level on top of having an OP DF and the best haki

 

[Olorin]

I know I'll take a lot of shit for saying this but I think your a level headed dude I think Dragon is stronger I think he will be what Madara is to the 5 hokages. Think about it he has to be he wants to change the world and you have to have immense willpower/haki to do that not to mention his physical strength and hand to hand combat will be at prime garp level on top of having an OP DF and the best haki

nah I actually agree to some point

I have always believed that Gol D Roger, Gol D Ace, Monkey D Garp, Monkey D Dragon and Monkey D Luffy in their prime would be about equal in power with slight differences due to DFs

/braces before the WB is the strongest man in the world storm /shiver

 

[shon93]

nah I actually agree to some point

I have always believed that Gol D Roger, Gol D Ace, Monkey D Garp, Monkey D Dragon and Monkey D Luffy in their prime would be about equal in power with slight differences due to DFs

/braces before the WB is the strongest man in the world storm /shiver

Yup all of them are on par.... I just don't see why people disregard he strength because of his bounty and him being the World most wanted man. Some people are actually worth all of there bounty and more. Look at Luffy for example.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Idk... I still think its rather inconclusive about Sabo's haki > Luffy's.

When Luffy fought Chinjou they had a similar panel.

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I think that means that your statement needs more proof. Otherwise I'd lean toward Luffy being about the same as Sabo.

Or you could simply understand that Chinjao's Haki is far below Luffy's. Therefore there's no way to compare Burgess and Chinjao and therefore no way of comparing Luffy and Sabo. They're not in the same league... yet...

I'm disappointed with Burgess though. I had hoped he would be stronger. Regardless of Sabo's strength I was hoping that Burgess would be the only threat to Isshou on the Island in terms of strength.

 

[Fireplay]

Sabo came in and ****ed shit up. Bartolomeo is lucky he's on Sabo's good side. Sabo's Haki looks pretty beastly aswell. Based on him fodderising Burgess' defence i think it's>Luffy's Haki. Then again im just speculating.

 

[cptenn94]

I know I'll take a lot of shit for saying this but I think your a level headed dude I think Dragon is stronger I think he will be what Madara is to the 5 hokages. Think about it he has to be he wants to change the world and you have to have immense willpower/haki to do that not to mention his physical strength and hand to hand combat will be at prime garp level on top of having an OP DF and the best haki

Not neccesarily.

Dragon does not need to be the strongest in the world to topple the WG(his goal)

However he does NEED to be above admiral level(or the admirals could just kill him in battle, and then massacre his comrades)

Buggy is a shichibukai. But he has not shown really powerful fighting techniques. He became a shichibukai through ammassing a lot of strong followers. He used quantity of people vs quality.


The same could be said for dragon. His main power may be his allies, not himself. Still, since he is the son of Garp(who was rogers level), and the father of luffy(who will become PK level), he is certainly very OP.

His bounty is based on more of the fact that he is toppleing kingdoms, and is very dangerous to the survival of the world government.


I think dragon is yonkou level or above. I do not think he is neccesarily the strongest in OP. If I were to guess right now, I would say he might be able to 1v2 yonkous.(just yonkous, not their crew)


I very open to the possibility that I may be wrong. This is just my opinion.


To the topic. Sabo was boss. I cant believe some people thought he would be weaker than luffy. Im sure he is at least luffy level or higher(probably higher). He has been trained by dragon for many years, he has been fighting/training longer than luffy, and he was stronger than luffy when luffy was a kid still.

Both OP and Naruto are at points in the manga where I really dont want these breaks to happen. IM just glad they happened on different weeks.

 

[the nine tails]

Or you could simply understand that Chinjao's Haki is far below Luffy's. Therefore there's no way to compare Burgess and Chinjao and therefore no way of comparing Luffy and Sabo. They're not in the same league... yet...

I'm disappointed with Burgess though. I had hoped he would be stronger. Regardless of Sabo's strength I was hoping that Burgess would be the only threat to Isshou on the Island in terms of strength.

hmmm ... i don't think it's even possible ... your talking about a guy who was no match for a guy who got one shotted by an admiral (ace) so for him to beat or rival an admiral is pretty much impossible .. i've said this before hes not even stronger than luffy and still people compare him to DD and issou remember guys blackbeard became a yonko due to his OP 2 DF's the Reason he became a yonko is because of him and him only his team didn't do shit and he's still a new yonko so people shouldn't expect form his crew to be as strong as the other yonko's

 

[TheHokage]

Not neccesarily.

Dragon does not need to be the strongest in the world to topple the WG(his goal)

However he does NEED to be above admiral level(or the admirals could just kill him in battle, and then massacre his comrades)

Buggy is a shichibukai. But he has not shown really powerful fighting techniques. He became a shichibukai through ammassing a lot of strong followers. He used quantity of people vs quality.


The same could be said for dragon. His main power may be his allies, not himself. Still, since he is the son of Garp(who was rogers level), and the father of luffy(who will become PK level), he is certainly very OP.

His bounty is based on more of the fact that he is toppleing kingdoms, and is very dangerous to the survival of the world government.


I think dragon is yonkou level or above. I do not think he is neccesarily the strongest in OP. If I were to guess right now, I would say he might be able to 1v2 yonkous.(just yonkous, not their crew)


I very open to the possibility that I may be wrong. This is just my opinion.


To the topic. Sabo was boss. I cant believe some people thought he would be weaker than luffy. Im sure he is at least luffy level or higher(probably higher). He has been trained by dragon for many years, he has been fighting/training longer than luffy, and he was stronger than luffy when luffy was a kid still.

Both OP and Naruto are at points in the manga where I really dont want these breaks to happen. IM just glad they happened on different weeks.

Lol I agree with what your saying with Dragons strength and him being OP...but if someone is able to fight 2 Yonkous at once then bro he's the strongest character in the series ATM.

 

[ToshiZO]

If Sabo wasn't able to do what he did this chapter, I'd be really disappointed. Im expecting him to be above Luffy by quite a bit. Imo Sabo > Luffy > Burgess. Burgess should not mean shit to Sabo.

 

[shon93]

Not neccesarily.

Dragon does not need to be the strongest in the world to topple the WG(his goal)

However he does NEED to be above admiral level(or the admirals could just kill him in battle, and then massacre his comrades)

Buggy is a shichibukai. But he has not shown really powerful fighting techniques. He became a shichibukai through ammassing a lot of strong followers. He used quantity of people vs quality.


The same could be said for dragon. His main power may be his allies, not himself. Still, since he is the son of Garp(who was rogers level), and the father of luffy(who will become PK level), he is certainly very OP.

His bounty is based on more of the fact that he is toppleing kingdoms, and is very dangerous to the survival of the world government.


I think dragon is yonkou level or above. I do not think he is neccesarily the strongest in OP. If I were to guess right now, I would say he might be able to 1v2 yonkous.(just yonkous, not their crew)


I very open to the possibility that I may be wrong. This is just my opinion.


To the topic. Sabo was boss. I cant believe some people thought he would be weaker than luffy. Im sure he is at least luffy level or higher(probably higher). He has been trained by dragon for many years, he has been fighting/training longer than luffy, and he was stronger than luffy when luffy was a kid still.

Both OP and Naruto are at points in the manga where I really dont want these breaks to happen. IM just glad they happened on different weeks.

Dude I totally agree Dragon will be a beast but I'm not completely jugding his strength on him being the worlds most wanted man because theres alot of factors that goe into that. I'm judging his strength of his bloodline and his position and goals.

1)Op Devil Fruit(Wind or Storm)
2)Haki(willpower)stronger than Shanks
3)Physical strength and hand to hand combat(Prime Garp)
4)Revolotionary based rokoshiki techniques on and island wide destruction level

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Can anybody in OP fight against this. This is so ridiculous and this was in the begining of OP who knows this might was been casual and it blow everyone away

Dragon has to be this overwheliming if he even wants to scratch the WG in a fight not just messing up there name. The WG isn't a cupcake organization you no.

 

[akimofnevis]

Sabo has not shown his true strength so far but I want to see more techniques and I want this to be the best fight so far , Diamanté better show me some powerful moves as well , I want to know what made h the hero of the coliseum