(SPOILER!)Does Shikimaru and Ino have it worse than any of the konoha 11 and sasuke?

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Naruto and sasuke had a lot of childhood trauma, even though its really nothing compared to kakashi who killed one of his own team mates, while one died for him and his sensei died and his father commited suicide and he walked in on it and he got his eye cut out (Winner!). But I think that hearing your family member die, while their conscience is fully intact and its so suddenly that there were no screams. is worse than walking in on your dead parents or being an orphan. But it is also true that naruto and sasuke were alot younger.
What do you think is worse?
 
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Sasuke was forced to watch everyone he loved get kille by his older brother VIA GENJUTSU. I think Sasuke's is still worst.
 

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Possible....still though the war isn't over yet....plenty more people to kill....I imagine Hinata's dad (Hiashi) is about to go soon, along with several other people...probably the K11 members who get it the worst are the ones who end up getting killed o_O
 

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It terrible. Why, its because they got the information of none other than shikaku himself. Shikamaru and ino both realized at that moment there was nothing they could do. not being able to do anything and being aware of it kinda sucks.
 

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Sasuke was forced to watch everyone he loved get kille by his older brother VIA GENJUTSU. I think Sasuke's is still worst.

Your right but is it as bad as the real thing? I mean i would be more tramatised by hearing my mom die in a bus crash over the phone than someone replaying it to me
 

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no, they're parents were lame and needed to die. Like I so sick of weak characters, this is why evils are needed, to rid of the weak shinobi. Next week, Sai needs to die and some relevant characters.
 

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They will have worst than Sasuke after their brother kills their parents in front of them then slaughters the rest of the Clan then watches the whole think happen all over again for 72 hours.
 

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They got it bad but Kakashi has it worse. The things you said added with the fact that his studentis a s class criminal now.
 

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I doubt kishi will kill of anyone from konoha 11, it seems good kids dont die in this manga, i think. I think a bunch of nameless ninja will die. But i will be mad if sasuke doesnt make an appearance during this entire fight, i mean its the end of the world and he's slithering around with oro on the other side of the world.
 

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dang. shikimaru and ino had great parents that were with them until they were adults. the others however. have been dealing with there problems for a long time. they HAVE already had it worse. than THEY will. sheesh . shikaku and inos father just died. they will accept it and push forward.
 

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mister give kakashi a break , point of correction kakashi did'not kill his own team mate it was a mistake.
 

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I doubt kishi will kill of anyone from konoha 11, it seems good kids dont die in this manga, i think. I think a bunch of nameless ninja will die. But i will be mad if sasuke doesnt make an appearance during this entire fight, i mean its the end of the world and he's slithering around with oro on the other side of the world.

Haku was a kid.
 

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now that i think about it kakashi is the champ here, not only did he get the things i listed, but when he walked in on his dead father and found he commited suicide thats not only emotional but kills moral. I mean the man he looked up to didnt care enough about him or wasnt strong emotionally to stay in this world, so he left, leaving kakashi alone. Yet sakura's crying cause her crush who never liked her or had any sort of bond with her went on a hike with a snake
 

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Haku was a kid.

He wasnt good, i mean those that arent tainted by any kind of evil deeds ever, like kimmimaru, sound 5 and a bunch of kids die but seems like those who have no crimes and are children dont die at all
 

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Dude, are you serious? Sasuke had it FAR worse. Shikamaru and Ino's parents die a quick, painless instant death whilst they are mentally connected and you think that's worse than watch your ENTIRE family and clan get murdered one by one by your OLDER brother who you respected and loved and had NO idea that he was a friggin psychopath/sociopath. The fear, anger and pain Sasuke would have felt... at the age of SEVEN. This thread should just collapse in on itself from the result of its own ridiculousness.

Iruka, who had to watch his parents die whilst trying to fight people holding him back from joining his parents, had it worse than Shikamaru and Ino. Shikamaru and Ino have years of mental preparation; knowing that their parents are ninjas, maturing to an older age where they understand how life and death works and how the ninja system works. Although I will admit that preparation will never actually prepare them for the emotion that will happen within them when their parents eventually die.

The thing is, it might be expected that death can come to you or a loved one at any time, but although the possibility is understood, it is never expected that your entire clan will get wiped out by your seemingly nice older brother. And this would be for anybody. Then imagine a seven year old kid who hasn't really gotten a proper grasp on life, death, ninja mortality, etc. Consider the impact. It really just does not compare.

Oh, I didn't even include the time when he had to relive the friggin ordeal all over again REPEATEDLY for 72 FRIGGIN HOURS at the age of TWELVE! Jeez.
 
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Sasuke trained hard to get acknowledged by his father.

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Very valid but i still think kakshi is worse, he admired his father but when he suicided he had noone. Sasuke had itachi to take his anger out on but kakashi had nothing. And, then forced to kill him comrade with his bare hands that he swore to protect to his other comrade who died saving him.
 

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Dude, are you serious? Sasuke had it FAR worse. Shikamaru and Ino's parents die a quick, painless instant death whilst they are mentally connected and you think that's worse than watch your ENTIRE family and clan get murdered one by one by your OLDER brother who you respected and loved and had NO idea that he was a friggin psychopath/sociopath. The fear, anger and pain Sasuke would have felt... at the age of SEVEN. This thread should just collapse in on itself from the result of its own ridiculousness.

Iruka, who had to watch his parents die whilst trying to fight people holding him back so that he could help him, had it worse than Shikamaru and Ino. Shikamaru and Ino have years of mental preparation; knowing that their parents are ninjas, maturing to an older age where they understand how life and death works and how the ninja system. Although I will admit that preparation will never actually prepare them for the emotion that will happen within them when their parents eventually die.

The thing is, it might be expected that death can come to you or a loved one at any time, but although the possibility is understood, it is never expected that your entire clan will get wiped out by your seemingly nice older brother. And this would be for anybody. Then imagine a seven year old kid who hasn't really gotten a proper grasp on life, death, ninja mortality, etc. Consider the impact. It really just does not compare.

Oh, I didn't even include the time when he had to relive the friggin ordeal all over again REPEATEDLY for 72 FRIGGIN HOURS at the age of TWELVE! Jeez.
Yah your right, whats your opinion on kakashi?
Also itachi killed his parents painlessly as well, he still loved them
 

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Yah your right, whats your opinion on kakashi?
Also itachi killed his parents painlessly as well, he still loved them

Yeah, I think Kakashi has had it at least just as bad. His father was everything to him. So were Rin, Minato and Obito pretty much. And over the course of four years or so, he more or less watch each and every single one of them die one by one. There's also the fact that Kakashi has been a proper shinobi much longer than Sasuke, which will mean that he's also lost a lot of other friends and comrades over the years. It won't be as traumatising as Sasuke's because Sasuke got it all at once, in one blow, at a tender age and then relived it again a few years later over a time period of 72 hours, but ever since, Sasuke has actually had a pretty smooth ride lol. Technically, Sasuke's is worse, but after that one instance, he got things buttered up for him. Kakashi's is continuous. It really doesn't end for him.

I think that time when Sasuke said to Kakashi "You don't know what it's like!" and then Kakashi said "Actually, all my loved ones are all already dead" with a smile on his face whilst Sasuke was shocked best describes it. Kakashi's pain is continuous and divided into different moments across his life. As a consequence, he keeps moving on, and it might arguably make it easier for him to deal with. Sasuke's is instant and it's all contained in that one night/moment that he remains stuck in and has let consume him. I think his age also makes it harder for Sasuke to deal with. But those two definitely have the worst deals in Konoha lol. Shikamaru and Ino pale in comparison. I think Gaara's had it pretty rough too. Gaara's pain makes Naruto's look like a walk in the park.
 
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