(Spoiler) Confirmed: Sasuke is the fastest Ninja alive?

[Ripple Hole]

You change the topic again?

Why not keep talking about how sasuke and naruto were exhausted in vote2 to nerf their speed? :bdpf:

Knowingly knowing there's nothing to discuss, as it is fact Naruto practically fought
Kaguya alone stalling until Sasuke could be saved by Sakura/Obito from the desert,
and had claimed his chakra was out vs Madara. All after Naruto had previously split
into clones while in KCM, whilst Kurama was sucking his chakra dry in exchange, the
drain's rate multiplying as Naruto made clones.

Naruto was running purely on the Beast, lol.
Naruto runs low on chakra at chapter 560, 135 chapters before Vote2 starts.

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Really don't feel like finding the scan where it says Naruto gives Kurama some of his chakra
to use Kurama's in exchange, during his kcm stage, but you get the gist.

 

[TrollKing]

Knowingly knowing there's nothing to discuss, as it is fact Naruto practically fought
Kaguya alone stalling until Sasuke could be saved by Sakura/Obito from the desert,
and had claimed his chakra was out vs Madara. All after Naruto had previously split
into clones while in KCM, whilst Kurama was sucking his chakra dry in exchange, the
drain's rate multiplying as Naruto made clones.

Naruto was running purely on the Beast, lol.
Naruto runs low on chakra at chapter 560, 135 chapters before Vote2 starts.

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Really don't feel like finding the scan where it says Naruto gives Kurama some of his chakra
to use Kurama's in exchange, during his kcm stage, but you get the gist.

Naruto was stalling kaguya while sasuke was spamming jutsu to get out. Sasuke's eye was still on cooldown after he got out

Your scan is kcm which is very limited chakra. Bsm is on a different level while rsm is completely different level than bsm. Kcm naruto could only steal limited chakra from kurama, but kurama gives him 100+% chakra in bsm

When naruto low on chakra, he would go from rsm to bsm to kyubi cloak to base mode. Vote2 is still rsm, so he retains his speed

 

[Ripple Hole]

Naruto was stalling kaguya while sasuke was spamming jutsu to get out. Sasuke's eye was still on cooldown after he got out

Your scan is kcm which is very limited chakra. Bsm is on a different level while rsm is completely different level than bsm. Kcm naruto could only steal limited chakra from kurama, but kurama gives him 100+% chakra in bsm

When naruto low on chakra, he would go from rsm to bsm to kyubi cloak to base mode. Vote2 is still rsm, so he retains his speed

LOL, pls, Naruto's chakra was gone.
BSM is Kurama.
Rikudo isn't even defined yet, but to knowledge it's all of the beast, or an enhanced
SM, mmmm difficulties deciding.

Is Sasuke really dumb enough to spam Ameno at blank space in hopes of escaping?
Sasuke can't even spam Ameno to common knowledge, at most 2-3 times before cool down.

 

[TrollKing]

LOL, pls, Naruto's chakra was gone.
BSM is Kurama.
Rikudo isn't even defined yet, but to knowledge it's all of the beast, or an enhanced
SM, mmmm difficulties deciding.

Is Sasuke really dumb enough to spam Ameno at blank space in hopes of escaping?
Sasuke can't even spam Ameno to common knowledge, at most 2-3 times before cool down.

Naruto doesn't really need his chakra. He needs bsm and rsm. Not sure what you trying to prove when kcm is as oldas part 1 already

Sasuke said "I tried everything and nothing works". So he tried everything that don't require chakra so that he can conserve chakra?? What doesn't use up chakra? Taijutsu, so how the hell can sasuke jump dimension with taijutsu?!! So no, he used crap loads of chakra in the dessert. 2-3 ameno before cooldown is not the topic. Either way, he used crap loads of chakra

 

[Ripple Hole]

Naruto doesn't really need his chakra. He needs bsm and rsm. Not sure what you trying to prove when kcm is as oldas part 1 already

Sasuke said "I tried everything and nothing works". So he tried everything that don't require chakra so that he can conserve chakra?? What doesn't use up chakra? Taijutsu, so how the hell can sasuke jump dimension with taijutsu?!! So no, he used crap loads of chakra in the dessert. 2-3 ameno before cooldown is not the topic. Either way, he used crap loads of chakra

The reason why Sasuke dropped in chakra in the desert to you is because he spammed justu, his
only means of Space Time Travel at the times was Ameno, if he couldn't spam it due to cool down,
then what's the reason why he dropped?
Why would Sasuke spam Ameno in blank space anyways?

Kcm dropped Naruto's chakra levels, Naruto's as in Naruto's chakra.
Vote2 was realistically speaking, a burnt out Naruto + a burnt out Kurama vs Sasuke With the other Beasts.

Naruto used all his other Tailed Beast up against Kaguya, and they never made an appearance vs Sasuke,
and Kurama claimed he was low on chakra, as he displayed after Sasuke absorbed some of it, there was
only enough chakra for a rasengan.

Naruto's chakra = gone 135 chapters ago, other Tailed Beast = depleted vs Kaguya, Kurama = lacking tons of chakra,
then Sasuke gets a buff .

Can we make this a spiderman thread yet?

 

[TrollKing]

The reason why Sasuke dropped in chakra in the desert to you is because he spammed justu, his
only means of Space Time Travel at the times was Ameno, if he couldn't spam it due to cool down,
then what's the reason why he dropped?
Why would Sasuke spam Ameno in blank space anyways?

Kcm dropped Naruto's chakra levels, Naruto's as in Naruto's chakra.
Vote2 was realistically speaking, a burnt out Naruto + a burnt out Kurama vs Sasuke With the other Beasts.

Naruto used all his other Tailed Beast up against Kaguya, and they never made an appearance vs Sasuke,
and Kurama claimed he was low on chakra, as he displayed after Sasuke absorbed some of it, there was
only enough chakra for a rasengan.

Naruto's chakra = gone 135 chapters ago, other Tailed Beast = depleted vs Kaguya, Kurama = lacking tons of chakra,
then Sasuke gets a buff .

Can we make this a spiderman thread yet?

The reason I said sasuke dropped in chakra is because sasuke said he tried everything and nothing works

Notice he was not talking about only "ameno", he was talking about everything. Everything requires chakra except taijutsu. And he didn't use taijutsu because taijutsu does not open portal. Everything means all possible jutsu including ameno and not ameno alone

A burnt out naruto has enough chakra to go rsm, so of course he retain rsm speed which is much faster than bsm. Also if you want to mention sasuke with other beasts, you have to mention all them natural energy kurama the sage collected out of nowhere which made naruto even more powerful than before

You don't compare the chakra naruto had remain with sasuke's bijuu's chakra. You compare kurama sage ne chakra with sasuke's bijuu chakra

 

[shelke]

There is nothing special about Naruto's mediocre speed feats at any level. It’s just NB and their fictive liberties and stupidity. Let’s look at that hilarious KCM-era:

- Bar that one feat where he evaded V2 Ae, his feats are borderline abysmal:

1- He was smashed down multiple times by Ae at V1. Bee had to step in twice to aid him when it was certain that Ae’s blows will kill Naruto. In fact, he couldn’t outmaneuver Ae at V1 multiple times even with Bee’s aid, when Sasuke at 3T not only evaded him but landed a hit with ease.

That’s speed, right there. KCM Naruto is clearly so much faster than everyone.

2- Bee on the other hand reacted to Ae’s V2 cloak and smashed him into the rocks. The same Bee aided Naruto in KCM twice and many times afterwards against V2 Jins and reacted faster than BM Naruto as well – I’ll come to that later.

Sasuke evaded that Bee who was in V1 shroud to boot and surpassed his reaction rate by 6 to 0 after his injuries were healed; Bee is in mid air and he has to even move from point A to B and Sasuke has moved 6 times in that short window:

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What’s so special about his speed? KCM Naruto and Bee couldn’t even overpower Itachi:

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Let’s see more of his amazing speed feats:

- He tripped over a root in KCM.
- Naruto wasn’t able to handle the other Tailed-Beasts:

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- It was Hachibi that came to his rescue -

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- Naruto could feel the heat from the Jinchurki’s magma technique as he couldn’t evade him.

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- Look at him sizzle.

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- Naruto, unable to keep up with two V2 Jins.
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- Naruto could feel the heat from the Jinchurki’s magma technique.

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- Heck, he even felt the damn kick on his jaw.

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- Obito literally tossed the Junbai up and the Rasangan exploded in KCM Naruto’s face.

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- Obito took care of KCM Clone with Gunbai. He was about to grab Naruto as well, had Gai not appeared.

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- Dodged KCM’s Chakra arm and reacted to Kakashi’s kamui to save the Gedo-Mezo on time.

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- Obito literally chasing KCM Naruto.

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- Hits him with Gunbai again. Kakashi saved him here for the umpteenth time.

Oh yeah, BM Naruto's untouchable speed feats, whom people countered without moving much:

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- Hachibi is behind Naruto here. BM Naruto charges and goes further ahead -

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- Yet when Obito throws the Giant Shurikens out of his Kamui -

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- It’s Bee who reacts first, not BM Naruto -

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- Obito is not only able to keep up with and anticipate him with ease but throw out Stakes from Kamui dimension as well.

BM Naruto throws stakes here -

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- Obito throws Gunbai at Madara – the stakes have yet to make it, by the way –

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- Madara blocks them with Ribcage Susano’o’s aura –

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and without moving, bashes Naruto’s face in with his own Mini-BD with Gunbai and he has barely moved from his spot –

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In fact that feat where TBBs were knocked off his body wasn’t even a speed feat as Obito considers TBBS to be slow in movement and ground progression:

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- Sasuke reacting faster than both KCM Naurto an Minato.

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- Look at the leap he has made when Susano’o is still forming. He makes a speedy V3 form and shoots as well -

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- Sasuke pushed Madara back.

Sasuke was here -

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- Reacted faster than KCM Minato and saved Naruto by putting up Susano’o as well -

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- Look at the enormity of the distance he covered here. Not to mentioned the fact that he moved faster than KCM Naruto to reach Sakura, which isn’t out of the world, as he is faster proven by the above feats.

Was there any decent ninja who couldn’t follow BM and KCM Naruto’s speed? Madara and Obito did it in base with ease. Same is the case with Sasuke who moved faster just like the previous two along with Bee on several occasions. So where is this “Naruto is the fastest” individual in the manga even coming from? It isn’t portrayed in the manga, that’s for sure. Quite the opposite.

The only reason he even managed a hit on Kaguya was because she was low on chakra and that arm evasion happened because he had been clueless like Sasuke before and twice at that.

So what the heck are the posters even talking about? Fictions as usual from Naruto lobby. If someone wants to look at Hebi Sasuke's feats then they have look at this post. You all will find it enlightening:

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We will never know who was faster in base considering both of them always had something that enhanced others speed/reflexes .

Feats put Naruto << Sasuke in speed
NB Hype and Portrayal put Sasuke << Naruto in speed .

Fixed it for a good measure. You can read above for the proper reply.

 

[Ripple Hole]

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There is nothing special about Naruto speed feats at any level. It’s just NB and their fictive liberties and stupidity. Let’s look at that hilarious KCM-era:

- Bar that one feat where he evaded V2 Ae, his feats are borderline abysmal:

1- He was smashed down multiple times by Ae at V1. Bee had to step in twice to aid him when it was certain that Ae’s blows will kill Naruto. In fact, he couldn’t outmaneuver Ae at V1 multiple times even with Bee’s aid, when Sasuke at 3T not only evaded him but landed a hit with ease.

That’s speed, right there. KCM Naruto is clearly so much faster than everyone.

2- Bee on the other hand reacted to Ae’s V2 cloak and smashed him into the rocks. The same Bee aided Naruto in KCM twice and many times afterwards against V2 Jins and reacted faster than BM Naruto as well – I’ll come to that later.

Sasuke evaded that Bee who was in V1 shroud to boot and surpassed his reaction rate by 6 to 0 after his injuries were healed; Bee is in mid air and he has to even move from point A to B and Sasuke has moved 6 times in that short window:

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What’s so special about his speed? KCM Naruto and Bee couldn’t even overpower Itachi:

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Let’s see more of his amazing speed feats:

- He tripped over a root in KCM.
- Naruto wasn’t able to handle the other Tailed-Beasts:

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- It was Hachibi that came to his rescue -

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-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/565/12 - Naruto could feel the heat from the Jinchurki’s magma technique as he couldn’t evade him.

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- Look at him sizzle.

-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/566/10 - Naruto, unable to keep up with two V2 Jins.
-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/565/12 - Naruto could feel the heat from the Jinchurki’s magma technique.

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- Heck, he even felt the damn kick on his jaw.

-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/594/21 - Obito literally tossed the Junbai up and the Rasangan exploded in KCM Naruto’s face.

-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/595/7 - Obito took care of KCM Clone with Gunbai. He was about to grab Naruto as well, had Gai not appeared.

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-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/595/12 - Dodged KCM’s Chakra arm and reacted to Kakashi’s kamui to save the Gedo-Mezo on time.

-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/595/15 - Obito literally chasing KCM Naruto.

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- Hits him with Gunbai again. Kakashi saved him here again.

Oh yeah, BM Naruto's unmatchable speed feats whom people countered without moving much:

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- Hachibi is behind Naruto here. BM Naruto charges and goes further ahead -http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/598 - Yet when Obito throws the Giant Shurikens out of his Kamui -http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/598/4 - it’s Bee who reacts first, not BM Naruto -http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/598/5

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- Obito is not even able to keep up with and anticipate him but throw out Stakes from Kamui dimension as well.

BM Naruto throws stakes here -

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- Obito throws Gunbai at Madara – the stakes have yet to make it, by the way –

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- Madara blocks them with Ribcage Susano’o’s aura –

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and without moving, bashes Naruto’s face in with his own tbb with Gunbai –

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In fact that feat where TBBs were knocked off his body wasn’t even a speed feat as Obito considers TBBS to be slow in movement and ground progression:

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- Sasuke reacting faster than both KCM Naurto an Minato.

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- Look at the leap he has made when Susano’o is still forming. He makes a speedy V3 form and shoots as well -

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- Sasuke pushed Madara back.

Sasuke was here -

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- Reacted faster than KCM Minato and saved Naruto by putting up Susano’o as well -

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- Look at the enormity of the distance he covered here. Not to mentioned the fact that he moved faster than KCM Naruto to reach Sakura, which isn’t out of the world, as he is faster proven by the above feats.

Was there any decent ninja who couldn’t follow BM and KCM Naruto’s speed? Madara and Obito did it in base with ease. Same is the case with Sasuke who moved faster just like the previous two along with Bee on several occasions. So where is this “Naruto is the fastest” individual in the manga even coming from? It isn’t portrayed in the manga, that’s for sure. Quite the opposite.

The only reason he even managed a hit on Kaguya was because she was low on chakra and that arm evasion happened because he had been clueless like Sasuke before and twice at that.

So what the heck are we even talking about? Fictions, as usual from Naruto lobby. If someone want to look at Hebi Sasuke's feats then they have look at this post. You all will find it enlightening:

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Fixed it for a good measure. You can read above for the proper reply.

Oh, I was waiting for you to respond, you kept eyeing from a distance.
Why don't you bash Sasuke anymore Shelke, is it because the Itachi bandwagon died? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
You're also the most biased member I've ever encountered.

 

[TrollKing]

There is nothing special about Naruto speed feats at any level. It’s just NB and their fictive liberties and stupidity. Let’s look at that hilarious KCM-era:

- Bar that one feat where he evaded V2 Ae, his feats are borderline abysmal:

1- He was smashed down multiple times by Ae at V1. Bee had to step in twice to aid him when it was certain that Ae’s blows will kill Naruto. In fact, he couldn’t outmaneuver Ae at V1 multiple times even with Bee’s aid, when Sasuke at 3T not only evaded him but landed a hit with ease.

That’s speed, right there. KCM Naruto is clearly so much faster than everyone.

2- Bee on the other hand reacted to Ae’s V2 cloak and smashed him into the rocks. The same Bee aided Naruto in KCM twice and many times afterwards against V2 Jins and reacted faster than BM Naruto as well – I’ll come to that later.

Sasuke evaded that Bee who was in V1 shroud to boot and surpassed his reaction rate by 6 to 0 after his injuries were healed; Bee is in mid air and he has to even move from point A to B and Sasuke has moved 6 times in that short window:

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What’s so special about his speed? KCM Naruto and Bee couldn’t even overpower Itachi:

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Let’s see more of his amazing speed feats:

- He tripped over a root in KCM.
- Naruto wasn’t able to handle the other Tailed-Beasts:

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- It was Hachibi that came to his rescue -

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-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/565/12 - Naruto could feel the heat from the Jinchurki’s magma technique as he couldn’t evade him.

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- Look at him sizzle.

-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/566/10 - Naruto, unable to keep up with two V2 Jins.
-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/565/12 - Naruto could feel the heat from the Jinchurki’s magma technique.

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- Heck, he even felt the damn kick on his jaw.

-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/594/21 - Obito literally tossed the Junbai up and the Rasangan exploded in KCM Naruto’s face.

-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/595/7 - Obito took care of KCM Clone with Gunbai. He was about to grab Naruto as well, had Gai not appeared.

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-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/595/12 - Dodged KCM’s Chakra arm and reacted to Kakashi’s kamui to save the Gedo-Mezo on time.

-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/595/15 - Obito literally chasing KCM Naruto.

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- Hits him with Gunbai again. Kakashi saved him here again.

Oh yeah, BM Naruto's unmatchable speed feats whom people countered without moving much:

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- Hachibi is behind Naruto here. BM Naruto charges and goes further ahead -http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/598 - Yet when Obito throws the Giant Shurikens out of his Kamui -http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/598/4 - it’s Bee who reacts first, not BM Naruto -http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/598/5

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- Obito is not even able to keep up with and anticipate him but throw out Stakes from Kamui dimension as well.

BM Naruto throws stakes here -

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- Obito throws Gunbai at Madara – the stakes have yet to make it, by the way –

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- Madara blocks them with Ribcage Susano’o’s aura –

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and without moving, bashes Naruto’s face in with his own tbb with Gunbai –

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In fact that feat where TBBs were knocked off his body wasn’t even a speed feat as Obito considers TBBS to be slow in movement and ground progression:

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- Sasuke reacting faster than both KCM Naurto an Minato.

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- Look at the leap he has made when Susano’o is still forming. He makes a speedy V3 form and shoots as well -

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- Sasuke pushed Madara back.

Sasuke was here -

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- Reacted faster than KCM Minato and saved Naruto by putting up Susano’o as well -

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- Look at the enormity of the distance he covered here. Not to mentioned the fact that he moved faster than KCM Naruto to reach Sakura, which isn’t out of the world, as he is faster proven by the above feats.

Was there any decent ninja who couldn’t follow BM and KCM Naruto’s speed? Madara and Obito did it in base with ease. Same is the case with Sasuke who moved faster just like the previous two along with Bee on several occasions. So where is this “Naruto is the fastest” individual in the manga even coming from? It isn’t portrayed in the manga, that’s for sure. Quite the opposite.

The only reason he even managed a hit on Kaguya was because she was low on chakra and that arm evasion happened because he had been clueless like Sasuke before and twice at that.

So what the heck are we even talking about? Fictions, as usual from Naruto lobby. If someone want to look at Hebi Sasuke's feats then they have look at this post. You all will find it enlightening:

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Fixed it for a good measure. You can read above for the proper reply.

I never knew kcm is that slow..... Your links are hard to read tho

 

[shelke]

Oh, I was waiting for you to respond, you kept eyeing from a distance.
Why don't you bash Sasuke anymore Shelke, is it because the Itachi bandwagon died? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
You're also the most biased member I've ever encountered.

Everyone on this forum is biased, but thank goodness for opinions. No idea what you are talking about in regards to that Itachi-bandwagon. I never liked Itachi and he's a despicable and terribly written character.

I never knew kcm is that slow..... Your links are hard to read tho

Just copy and past the links on the search bar. It isn't that hard.

P.s: Never mind, I have fixed them.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I never knew kcm is that slow..... Your links are hard to read tho

Naruto never super fast to begin with. He show super fast speed speed in one or two or three moments, after that his speed was like above average ninja but not like extraordinary ninja.

One time he speed blitzing but majority of the times he never did it anymore

 

[TrollKing]

Naruto never super fast to begin with. He show super fast speed speed in one or two or three moments, after that his speed was like above average ninja but not like extraordinary ninja.

One time he speed blitzing but majority of the times he never did it anymore

Exactly. There are a couple reasons for that tho

 

[Blackzoro]

This is how I know I'm arguing with either a troll or an idiot.



Lmao. Are you serious? They were facing somebody that would've been capable of taking over their verse had they not beaten him, they were literally the only ones who could stop him. Oh, but no, that's not enough reason to go full speed... because some random guy on a forum said so. :lol

Again, Kishi's depiction > your little (and cute) assumptions. Bring proof that they weren't going top speed, otherwise I'm just gonna ignore your trash posts.



Just watch the freaking videos you lazy little kid, smh. This is how you know you haven't seen jack. Also, a blur is actually a sign of an inferior Shunshin, since he's not fast enough to not leave a trail, a.k.a appear like it was instantaneous. Lmao. Wouldn't expect you to figure out that much, though.



Keep dreaming, fanboy. You know how I see you making these posts? You're basically thinking: ''damn, there's no way Sasuke is as fast as my fave Naruto. He has to be holding back, even if it contradicts the movie! Yes, that is what I choose to believe now.'' It's honestly hilarious.

Naruto went with his full speed, which was tied with Sasuke's full speed. Either prove he was holding back while facing an Ootsutsuki-level threat, or gtfo with your shitty excuses.



What a pathetic excuse of evidence. Are you seriously showing me KCM/BSM Naruto feats? Really? When anything pre-Rikudou powerup should be obviously completely obsolete? When Current Naruto is tiers above in the speed department, and yet got equaled by Sasuke? It should be obvious that Rikudou chakra means they both completely crap on anyone without it, so again, why are you showing me irrelevant feats of a weaker Naruto to try and compare them to Rikudou Sasuke?

Lmfao, this is just too rich. Yes, people, KCM Naruto > Rikudou Sasuke because he he had a blur. You heard it first on NB. :lol

And for the last goddamn time, watch the movie fight.

I think Ripple Hole point on naruto maybe not going his fastest is becuz we've seen him go faster than that. Its true about what u said no reason for naruto not being their fastest when they facing a threat but at the same time that logic is flawed cuz it can also be compared to narutos power why? Sasuke used his best susanoo but we still seeing naruto use kurama avatar. It may be just part of the teamwork and coordination but idk how people personally thinks sasuke could keep up with a jin raw speed thats why he was giving ameno to match narutos raw speed. U guys are just overthinking this its honestly probably just to make the fight look epic imo unless kishi magically just wanted to make sasuke gates speed and nerf the speed naruto displayed throughout manga

 

[Apêx1]

Everyone on this forum is biased, but thank goodness for opinions. No idea what you are talking about in regards to that Itachi-bandwagon. I never liked Itachi and he's a despicable and terribly written character.



Just copy and past the links on the search bar. It isn't that hard.

P.s: Never mind, I have fixed them.

Damn, seems interesting, especially the v2 Jins smashing him around. How do you justify Naruto dodging v2 Ay though? Is it because of the fact he was already running?

 

[Dark Sonic]

Well during Part II his speed stat is at 5, which is the max so it makes sense how he is keeping up with Naruto.

 

[shelke]

Damn, seems interesting, especially the v2 Jins smashing him around. How do you justify Naruto dodging v2 Ay though? Is it because of the fact he was already running?

My mistake, I forgot to mention that there were actually V0 Jins first and they smashed him around easily whilst Bee showed who's the faster of the two. Obito took out two KCM clones by just moving his arm and Naruto was saved several times by Kakashi and Gai from Obito. Obito and Madara had zero trouble reacting to him in BM. I have no idea where this "fastest character in NV" pile of stupidity even comes from. It isn't in the manga.

I would say it was a combination of the following:

- Ae warned him, so, threat perception. Bee also countered V2 Ae in base when he's laughably slower by comparison as by his own admission, V1 Ae is faster when he himself uses Chakra shroud. Which means with prior warning, V2 Evasion is very much possible. Bee also has very good reflexes so that might also be the case.

- Must have something to do with running as well.

- It was also plot. The fact that he never repeated this feat, not even once, shows that it was nothing but plot induced Deux Ex Machina to get him out of a tight spot. If Nagato falling for a badly written fiction proved anything to us is that this guy's plot armour is laughable and too thick.

 

[DHOH]

I think Ripple Hole point on naruto maybe not going his fastest is becuz we've seen him go faster than that. Its true about what u said no reason for naruto not being their fastest when they facing a threat but at the same time that logic is flawed cuz it can also be compared to narutos power why? Sasuke used his best susanoo but we still seeing naruto use kurama avatar. It may be just part of the teamwork and coordination but idk how people personally thinks sasuke could keep up with a jin raw speed thats why he was giving ameno to match narutos raw speed. U guys are just overthinking this its honestly probably just to make the fight look epic imo unless kishi magically just wanted to make sasuke gates speed and nerf the speed naruto displayed throughout manga

Lol I just don't understand... Kushiro showed us everything involving these two..

1. He showed Naruto amazing Kenjutsu skills to say Sasuke isn't better with a sword, even though he's been using one for a very long time,they are equal.

2. He showed Sasuke amazing taijutsu skills even though naruto has modes to make him better in taijutsu, they are equal.

3. He showed both speed blitzing on equal to terms to say they are equal.

4. He showed Sasuke's humanoid avatar to show the entire world Sasuke doesn't need bijuu chakra. A form to battle Ashura avtar to say, they are equal.. That is all..

 

[Apêx1]

My mistake, I forgot to mention that there were actually V0 Jins first and they smashed him around easily whilst Bee showed who's the faster of the two. Obito took out two KCM clones by just moving his arm and Naruto was saved several times by Kakashi and Gai from Obito. Obito and Madara had zero trouble reacting to him in BM. I have no idea where this "fastest character in NV" pile of stupidity even comes from. It isn't in the manga.

I would say it was a combination of the following:

- Ae warned him, so, threat perception. Bee also countered V2 Ae in base when he's laughably slower by comparison as by his own admission, V1 Ae is faster when he himself uses Chakra shroud. Which means with prior warning, V2 Evasion is very much possible. Bee also has very good reflexes so that might also be the case.

- Must have something to do with running as well.

- It was also plot. The fact that he never repeated this feat, not even once, shows that it was nothing but plot induced Deux Ex Machina to get him out of a tight spot. If Nagato falling for a badly written fiction proved anything to us is that this guy's plot armour is laughable and too thick.

Only way I see it is Naruto dodging it because he was running with physical speed. Ay came at him in a linear dash and Naruto used Shunshin to dodge it since the presupposed position Ay had thought of had changed.
How I see it, and why it doesn't imply his speed>v2 Ay's.

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Naruto hit TBB's with his tails, they weren't deflected with speed.

 

[Blackzoro]

The fact that Naruto used sheer speed in the blink of an eye and deflected the TBB by hitting them in other directions

The fact that Naruto evaded Ay when Sasuke couldn't

Makes the post invalid


Edit: since I'm poor at debating, lemme go through each one and counter

Thats naruto for ya only demonstrates them when he wants to. Kishi would forever continue to nerf naruto if he knows whats best for his opponents. The guy barely uses each and every effective abilities he gets Frog kata for example

 

[Megax Rocker7]

People keep forgetting that sasuke blitzed JJ madara with sheer footspeed