*SPOILER* 100% explanation about who Tobi really is. *SPOILER*

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No......just no...terrible theory.

Tobi might as well be the ramen guy.

Look, we know Kagami is similar to Tobi, like some Uchiha, but introducing him as Tobi at this point wouldn't be good. We know barely anything about him.

1. Uchiha

2. Team Tobirama

3. Dissapeared or died during war

He needs more of a story. Why introduce a random Uchiha as one of the main villains...just no. I'n sure Kishimoto will surpise us with Tobi's identity, but I'm 99.9% sure it's not Kagami.

If you think about it actually who else could it be. It has to be someone who doesn't really have a story yet. Kagami has as much of a story as Obito or Izuna. And Tobi has to be a person who we don't know about, because know think about this if Tobi had more of a back story and whoever played Tobi had more of a story, don't you think we woulda figured out who Tobi is? Kishimotto has done a fantastic job keeping it hidden like he has so far. Whoever it is, just watch, it is someone we don't know much about and that's exactly how TObis I debtors has been kaput a secret for so long.
 

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the problem is !!
why would kagami have a grudge against the konoha and ninja world ?
So Kagami is an Uchiha and do you remember that little thing that Konoha did to the Uchiha Clan? Every Uchiha has a grudge against te leaf. Also, Kagami has been around since the first great ninja war. He has seen loved ones and comrades die, that is why he is trying to use the ultimate moon eye technique because he says it himself, there will be peace and obedience. He is looking for peace, even though the means he gos about trying to get it is wrong he has animosity towards fighting in general. And ninjas only purpose in te Ninja world is to be used as a tool. Tobi says that multiple times. So those are his two motives for hating Konoha and the ninja villages.
 

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Both are 5'9 and 123 pounds. Izuna has the most visual evidence of being Tobi, not Kagami.
Thank you for posting thy picture. I can actually prove you wrong right here. So look at Izuna's Mangekyo Sharingan. Do you see that? Now go look at an up close picture of Tobi. He does not have the MS!!! It actually says Tobi was able to control the Kurama without the MS, he only has the three tomoe sharingan. So that proves my theory right there, they do not have the same eyes at all.
 

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Thank you for posting thy picture. I can actually prove you wrong right here. So look at Izuna's Mangekyo Sharingan. Do you see that? Now go look at an up close picture of Tobi. He does not have the MS!!! It actually says Tobi was able to control the Kurama without the MS, he only has the three tomoe sharingan. So that proves my theory right there, they do not have the same eyes at all.
That's not a MS.

Plus, I could give you a theory on why Tobi has a MS if ya want.
 

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appearance isn't everything btw :)
there is so much your missing that points to him xd
I realize that what I said there isn't the only reasons why I thi k it is Kagami. I WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED THIS THREAD, so I think I know there are a few more explanations to why it is Kagami. Go ahead and re-read my thread about what i originally said about Kagami. Those are just the basic easy things to look at to point to Kagami.
 

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That's not a MS.

Plus, I could give you a theory on why Tobi has a MS if ya want.
Go ahead. But I can give you an article about how it says Tobi does not have the MS and he uses the third stage sharingan to control Kurama. Mine is fact yours is a theory. And all a theory is a guess. So go ahead we can see which facts holds up more. But to put it simple Tobi does not have a MS. There are really only 5-6 that have it. Sasuke, Itatchi, Kakashi, Madara, and Izuna. And I think shisui actually woke his MS up though however to as well but no Tobi.
 

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We're comparing appearances now?


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lolololol
Dear god enough with the Obito theories. So Obito was 11 years old when he dies. Ok and can we all agree that Tobi attacked Konoha right after ago obitos death, not long after. Ok and Tobi was about 5,11- 6 feet tall. Obito does not fit the age, height or weight when Tobi fought Konoha the first time. And are you seriously going to say that Obito, a mere boy, who just woke his sharingan was able to hold his own against the yellow flash, Minato?? There's no way in just a. Couple years that Obito could have beame as strong as Minato, and powerful enough to have his sharingan control Kurama. Can people please read what I posted before y'all reply with silly fact about Obito being Tobi.
 

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Go ahead. But I can give you an article about how it says Tobi does not have the MS and he uses the third stage sharingan to control Kurama. Mine is fact yours is a theory. And all a theory is a guess. So go ahead we can see which facts holds up more. But to put it simple Tobi does not have a MS. There are really only 5-6 that have it. Sasuke, Itatchi, Kakashi, Madara, and Izuna. And I think shisui actually woke his MS up though however to as well but no Tobi.
Lol, aight first give me the article, I haven't read it yet. Then I'll reply back.
 

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u could be right but tobi is someone that madara was friends with or a live at his time.....otherwise his just a random uchiha with zetsu prolonging his appearence

:flaw::flaw::flaw:
 

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Dear god enough with the Obito theories. So Obito was 11 years old when he dies. Ok and can we all agree that Tobi attacked Konoha right after ago obitos death, not long after. Ok and Tobi was about 5,11- 6 feet tall. Obito does not fit the age, height or weight when Tobi fought Konoha the first time. And are you seriously going to say that Obito, a mere boy, who just woke his sharingan was able to hold his own against the yellow flash, Minato?? There's no way in just a. Couple years that Obito could have beame as strong as Minato, and powerful enough to have his sharingan control Kurama. Can people please read what I posted before y'all reply with silly fact about Obito being Tobi.
Yo ok chill. Look. I once heard this from a good man, a good man once posted this. Uchiha throw their eyes around like pokemon cards man. Just chil out, I got this:

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So from this, we can conclude it's obvious. Obito trained with the most hax sharingan user evar. It's obvious that when Madara attacked Konoha, that was the real Madara, he just borrowed Obito's MS for the weekend. Duh. They shared eyes whenever they wanted to trade. It's obvious.
 
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