Speed: Tobirama > Any

[KingHashirama]

Striking speed that is. Putting the mark on a Obito that blitzed him, is a feat that hasn't been shown by any.


While Minato/Naruto have faster speed on foot via chakra power up. Tobirama is still the faster ninja when it comes to physical body movement.


Just putting it out there. Covering a long distance in a shorter time doesn't = faster body movement. Why?

Because if speed was to be determined on Body movement of the legs, Yohan Blake would be the fastest man in the world.

Just want to put this out there. We also have people like Tsunade who feat wise have a faster strike than Minato and Naruto.


So a counter to a person who is fast in speed, is having striking speed + reaction.

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This is how faster reaction timing can give you the edge:

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[Penguin]

You should at least show the scan. ._.

But striking speed wise, yes. Besides Gai. He punched so fast fire was produced.​

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[KingHashirama]

You should at least show the scan. ._.

But striking speed wise, yes. Besides Gai. He punched so fast fire was produced.​

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That is technically a technique granted by the gates, like Hirudora. And is Chakra powered.

 

[frbro82]

No ftg minato and tobirama are the same. Shui shin minato is better. On foot I'd say minato since he caught up against some Jounin that captured Kushina. That's pretty impressive for a academy kid

 

[The Necromancer]

That is technically a technique granted by the gates, like Hirudora. And is Chakra powered.

Most movements are chakra powered. Simple leaps and punches are chakra powered. They're just not specific jutsus.

 

[KingHashirama]

Most movements are chakra powered. Simple leaps and punches are chakra powered. They're just not specific jutsus.

Gates = Chakra limiters

Releasing the gates = powering up your body with chakra

I'm simply talking about pure physical movement, as in quickness. Tobirama is the fastest one.

No ftg minato and tobirama are the same. Shui shin minato is better. On foot I'd say minato since he caught up against some Jounin that captured Kushina. That's pretty impressive for a academy kid

Shunshin = jutsu powered up by chakra.

And we don't know if those jounins took breaks or not.. so...

 

[To Whatever]

How the hell is he talking with half a torso and face?

I don't think that's a good example OP, since he's an Edo and if he was real he wouldn't be trying to counter, he'd be twitching because he lost half his body

 

[The Necromancer]

Gates = Chakra limiters

Releasing the gates = powering up your body with chakra

I'm simply talking about pure physical movement, as in quickness. Tobirama is the fastest one.

What I'm saying is that as most movements are powered by chakra that we don't see specifically, it's impossible to tell whether he boosts his own movements with chakra as well.

 

[frbro82]

Gates = Chakra limiters

Releasing the gates = powering up your body with chakra

I'm simply talking about pure physical movement, as in quickness. Tobirama is the fastest one.



Shunshin = jutsu powered up by chakra.

And we don't know if those jounins took breaks or not.. so...

Kushina is a jinjuriki from leaf I don't think they would take breaks since they stole a valuable weapon from the leaf. Plus Minato only found out Kushina was captured an hour after she was kidnapped.

 

[KingHashirama]

How the hell is he talking with half a torso and face?

I don't think that's a good example OP, since he's an Edo and if he was real he wouldn't be trying to counter, he'd be twitching because he lost half his body

That isn't whats being dicussed here tho. The fact he able to put a mark and paper bombs on a Jin obito who blitzed them, and noone noticed it.. is what is being discussed. I never said he could dodge Jin Obito's speed..I simply said his striking speed is the fastest shown.

And you are correct. Tobirama is incapable of bringing out his true power in his edo form.

What I'm saying is that as most movements are powered by chakra that we don't see specifically, it's impossible to tell whether he boosts his own movements with chakra as well.

Those movements have always been stated. Such as Shunshin + Sakura/Tsunade's strength + Ay's movement and so on.. However, this is nothing but him moving his arms fast..

Kushina is a jinjuriki from leaf I don't think they would take breaks since they stole a valuable weapon from the leaf. Plus Minato only found out Kushina was captured an hour after she was kidnapped.

We don't know. But again that is about foot speed aka shunshin that minato uses.

 

[Derek1st]

That is technically a technique granted by the gates, like Hirudora. And is Chakra powered.

you... you DO KNOW that any quick dash is chakra powered right? With the exception of lee, everyone uses chakra to speed themeselves up (rock less uses chakra too, but i just mean he's the fastest without chakra)

 

[Bogard]

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[Penguin]

Tobirama touched Obito five separate times.

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[KingHashirama]

you... you DO KNOW that any quick dash is chakra powered right? With the exception of lee, everyone uses chakra to speed themeselves up (rock less uses chakra too, but i just mean he's the fastest without chakra)

False. Those who use chakra to increase their speed are stated so. Rock Lee only uses his chakra to enhance his speed in the gates. The thing isn't about using chakra.. its about using it to enhance.

And also, only dash of foot has been shown to be enhanced by chakra, and physical strength.. anything else i would require some scans on.

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Ah the typical bogard way of taking things out of context. Notice the conversation. Striking physically isn't the "striking" mentioned by Tobirama.

Also, he simply gave minato a compliment.. what does that prove?

 

[Penguin]

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I think "quick to act" is the better translation, but is that the VIZ?​

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[Bogard]

I think "quick to act" is the better translation, but is that the VIZ?​

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The viz of course

 

[gutSy Sage]

we'll see once the 8th gate is opened

 

[frbro82]

Tsunade dosent have faster striking speed than naruto and minato

 

[Penguin]

The viz of course

I wish the VIZ were more HQ. :|

That translation seems weird for the VIZ. Quick to act seems way more accurate in that situation.​

 

[Bogard]

Ah the typical bogard way of taking things out of context. Notice the conversation. Striking physically isn't the "striking" mentioned by Tobirama.

Also, he simply gave minato a compliment.. what does that prove?

Ah the typical moron denying manga statements when it proves him wrong

I wish the VIZ were more HQ. :|

That translation seems weird for the VIZ. Quick to act seems way more accurate in that situation.​

It's the viz of the zoomed version of the panel