[Question] Speed of sound?

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Characters who move faster than the speed of sound are:

Luffy ( )
Sanji (Sky Walk and )
Kuma (Paw Paw Fruit)
Kizaru (Light Speed)
Enel (As fast as Lightning)
Ivankov ( )
Lucky Roo ( )
Cavendish

Those are the only ones I can think of right now.
 
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Yea I give up. Not even going to reply to this bullshit anymore.

Luffy is 30 times faster than a fighter jet confirmed.

Again, Luffy dodging Enel's ligtning or evading an explosion doesn't make him mach 100 or lightspeed. That makes him just fast because it's a fictional manga. People can follow fights watching in the streets just fine, meaning they're not even close to the kind of speeds you're talking about. This isnt dragon ball z.

bye nerds.
Just because I'm not a ****ing idiot like you and can accept the fact Luffy can move faster than a jet doesn't make me a nerd. You say Oda dint do the physics BS but he tried to make a mid tier like TB Zoro have LS reactions...foh
 

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Nah he didn't.
Yeah, he did. Luffy has created sonic booms before while in Gear 2.
yes 100 mach.. and yet they get hit with pistol bullets and fight with swords.

So if you look over the incidental 'feats' that you need to take with a grain of salt because it's an unrealistic world, and just use your common sense you would come to the conclusion that they're just a lot faster than normal humans but nowhere near speed of sound or anything like that.

Do you really think Oda is calculation the speed of explosions or do you think he just wants Luffy to dodge it because he is 'fast'.
Luffy has consistently been able to dodge bullets for a while. When G-5 fired bullets at Law, he noticed the sound, turned around and Shambles'd them away like it was nothing. Bullets don't mean anything in terms of speed to decent fighters. Pretty much the only times bullets have hit a decent tier fighter is if they let them, such as Logias and Whitebeard, if they were overconfident, like Luffy in Film Z, or if they were injured, like Law or Corazon or Whitebeard yet again. This does make it interesting to see how snipers like Yasopp or top tiers who use guns in general like Beckman fair, but there's no doubt in my mind it has something to do with Haki.
 

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So in super duper jet speed mach 1000 mode, how many chapters does it take Luffy to get from one side of Marineford to the execution platform ?

Or from one side of Dressrosa to the plateau ?

It's an honest question because I still am trying to learn how to implement real life physics into a manga. I guess I'm not ready yet.
 

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So in super duper jet speed mach 1000 mode, how many chapters does it take Luffy to get from one side of Marineford to the execution platform ?

Or from one side of Dressrosa to the plateau ?

It's an honest question because I still am trying to learn how to implement real life physics into a manga. I guess I'm not ready yet.
The explanation is simple and lies in the obvious difference between travel speed and combat speed. Luffy and other characters around his level have the ability to move at speeds faster than sound, but not in a maintained, long-distance fashion. They can move at the speeds in bursts long enough to be used in combat, but not for traveling. It's not an uncommon trope.

The speed of sound is 340.29 meters per second, which is about .34 km per second. Doflamingo's Overheat traveled a distance of several kilometers in a second, and both Law and Luffy had the ability to dodge or otherwise counter it.
 
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The explanation is simple and lies in the obvious difference between travel speed and combat speed. Luffy and other characters around his level have the ability to move at speeds faster than sound, but not in a maintained, long-distance fashion. They can move at the speeds in bursts long enough to be used in combat, but not for traveling. It's not an uncommon trope.

The speed of sound is 340.29 meters per second, which is about .34 km per second. Doflamingo's Overheat traveled a distance of several kilometers in a second, and both Law and Luffy had the ability to dodge or otherwise counter it.
Yes but marineford is only a couple of kilometers big at most. So it would only take him a fraction of a second, even in combat mode or whatever to get to the platform.

Or another solution is maybe stop comparing real life physics in a manga. If a fictional character throws around a whip that reaches the other side of town, in manga terms that just means big and fast. It's dumb to think that people move faster than the speed of sound.
 

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Yes but marineford is only a couple of kilometers big at most. So it would only take him a fraction of a second, even in combat mode or whatever to get to the platform.

Or another solution is maybe stop comparing real life physics in a manga. If a fictional character throws around a whip that reaches the other side of town, in manga terms that just means big and fast. It's dumb to think that people move faster than the speed of sound.
1. Luffy wasn't even that fast at that point. How much faster than the speed of sound he was before TS isn't clear, we just know he was able to break the sound barrier at times.

2. Not when you have people equally as fast or faster engaging you constantly and weakening you

3. You're free to look at the manga any way you want. If you don't want to add physics to the manga, for whatever reason, okay, do you. I don't know why you feel the need to get off by ragging on people that choose to do the opposite. Stop investing so much time and energy in being negative towards others. You'll live if people choose to believe Luffy and the others are faster than sound.
 

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Their combat speed is but not their speed in general. I mean they can't travel long distances with same speeds like some people already pointed out. If I remember correctly Vergo appeared before Law as soon as Law's heart was teleported. His speed is almost comparable to instant transmission. So I don't think it's impossible. OP is just a fiction, I don't get why it's so hard to accept that characters in a fiction can move at such a speed.
 

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Their combat speed is but not their speed in general. I mean they can't travel long distances with same speeds like some people already pointed out. If I remember correctly Vergo appeared before Law as soon as Law's heart was teleported. His speed is almost comparable to instant transmission. So I don't think it's impossible. OP is just a fiction, I don't get why it's so hard to accept that characters in a fiction can move at such a speed.
The OP was talking about movement speed not combat.
 

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The OP was talking about movement speed not combat.

I was referring to their speed while fighting not their striking speed means that I was talking about the same thing as OP. In a more accurate way I was talking about their speed when they move from point A to point B during battles. The Vergo example should have cleared any misunderstandings.
 

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Well, moving joints and muscles are as same as movements. Just how fast a punch can be? More speed = more power.

With such ordinary pirates who got hit at the speed of light by Kizaru at Sabaody Archipelago and at some point could be breathing is just a jack shit that it went far. Nothing should survive a light speed hit in One Piece. Leave that to Dragon Ball.
 

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Well, moving joints and muscles are as same as movements. Just how fast a punch can be? More speed = more power.

With such ordinary pirates who got hit at the speed of light by Kizaru at Sabaody Archipelago and at some point could be breathing is just a jack shit that it went far. Nothing should survive a light speed hit in One Piece. Leave that to Dragon Ball.
If we are truly taking real world physics into the equation, then Kizaru does not kick at the speed of light. He can project himself at light speed by turning into light particles and using his Yata Mirror technique, but once he materializes into a solid form, he's no longer at light speed because no solid can move at light speed.
 
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