Speed isnt everything

[kaka96]

Oh yeah by bad.

Your avatar... I wanted to use that but I couldn't find a good size one ^^

 

[kadowade]

Yeah ........ but he used a Rasengan to deflect it so Minato could have done the same

Minato cant do the same thing, cuz he dosent know that is possible. The only reason Naruto knew was because everybody explained his battle with the 8 tails, and told Naruto about his scar.

It died 2 seconds after...

How can it die. It's already dead. Nagato probably just cancelled the chakra flow, since he knew Naruto was coming to find him.

 

[kaka96]

Naruto got that idea after what that lightning ninja told him about the raikage's life and speaking to the 8 tailed, otherwise he wouldnt have been able to come up with it.

Ik I'm saying he could technically do it, plus Minato was pretty dam smart a he understood Madara's S/T in matter of seconds, but yeah since he doesn't have Intel on him he's probably lose

 

[kadowade]

Your avatar... I wanted to use that but I couldn't find a good size one ^^

I just had to get this avaterU_U

You was gonna use it as a Sig , or Avatar? The size ain't too bad for a Avatar.

 

[kaka96]

Minato cant do the same thing, cuz he dosent know that is possible. The only reason Naruto knew was because everybody explained his battle with the 8 tails, and told Naruto about his scar.




How can it die. It's already dead. Nagato probably just cancelled the chakra flow, since he knew Naruto was coming to find him.

The same way J-Man killed 4 pains
Kakashi killed 1 pain
Naruto killed the other 5 pains

 

[kaka96]

I just had to get this avaterU_U

You was gonna use it as a Sig , or Avatar? The size ain't too bad for a Avatar.

Ava ...... I didn't know how to change the sizes yet >.> I do now tough
Edit: sorry for 2x post

 

[~Hebi Terumi~]

What killed 3rd raikage ET? oh yeah ... a Rasengan
What jutsu destroyed the Nakara path? Rasengan
Once Nakara path was destroyed, what happened? oh yeah he couldn't resurrect them anymore
6tail is a filler arc, no?
Tough you do seem to have a point with Oro

No a Rasengan did not kill him. A Rasengan aimed at the arm of the Third Raikage, who had his Raiton Armor surrounding his finger tips, stabbed himself because of the Rasengan. If you were to actually just hit the Third Raikage with a Rasengan nothing would happen, sorry.

 

[kaka96]

No a Rasengan did not kill him. A Rasengan aimed at the arm of the Third Raikage, who had his Raiton Armor surrounding his finger tips, stabbed himself because of the Rasengan. If you were to actually just hit the Third Raikage with a Rasengan nothing would happen, sorry.

Read my later posts. Ik know it was just deflecting it but if naruto was able, minato is able

 

[DeathReaperSeal]

You guys talk like you have seen all the jutsu's Minato had up on his sleeve.
Don't go fantasy world please.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Minato's Flying Thunder God is useless against people like 3rd Raikage, or Nagato, or Orochimaru. Because after Minato uses Flying Thunder God to teleport next to Orochimaru, 3rd Raikage, or Pain, what will he do, that would kill them.

For example: Minato throws Flying Thunder God Kunai at 3rd Raikage, Minato teleports right next to him Does a Rasengan and hits 3rd Raikage. What will that do....? Nothing.
Minato has no destructive attack, other than Rasengan, and that wouldn't effect people like Orochimaru and Pain and Raikage, because:

Orochimaru: got b!tch-slapped by Fox Naruto , and took the rest of that Beating, then got right back up, and proceeded to fight 4 tailed Naruto. And i know Minato's rasengan, isn't stronger than a 4 tailed Naruto's attacks.

3rd Raikage: Got hit by a RasenShuriken, which is definantly stronger than Minato's normal Rasengan. So if Minato uses FLying thunder God against 3rd raikage, and does a Rasengan, what will it do? Nothing.

Pain: The body may be destroyed after a Rasengan, but it can easily be revived. Pain went toe to toe with 6 tails, and took one hell of a beating, And i know Minatos Rasengan isnt stronger than 6 tails blows.

Since these character can take one hell of a beating, what will Minato use to actually hurt them. Minato has no destructive attacks, to use after he uses Flying Thunder God other than a Normal Rasengan. So Minato's best method, to use when fighting people like 3rd raikage, is to use Sealing techniques Since he has no Firepower, behind his Flying Thunder God.

You forget that Naruto actually beat the Raikage with the Rasengan by figuring out his secret. Now if a Naruto with his intelligence could figure out what happened and apply the Rasengan accordingly, so could Minato. The third Raikage would have to use his Nukite jutsu on an opponent like Minato.

Deva Path was defeated by a Rasengan. Jiraiya would have told Minato about training Nagato, and him being the only one with the Rinnegan.
Of the six paths, Animal, Asura, Deva, and Naraka were defeated by the normal Rasengan.

If Pain loses his bodies, he has to flee and make more bodies for his use. He still loses, he just doesn't die. Fleeing=loss.

 

[Animeisalive]

prime example is gaara vs rock lee....gaara couldnt do S word....but gaaras defense did its job, and also, in the end...the speedster lost

 

[kaka96]

prime example is gaara vs rock lee....gaara couldnt do S word....but gaaras defense did its job, and also, in the end...the speedster lost

Lost to a jinchuriki, lost to the Host of monster>.> Sasuke got his ass kicked as well and Naruto was left unable to fight

 

[Animeisalive]

Lost to a jinchuriki, lost to the Host of monster>.> Sasuke got his ass kicked as well and Naruto was left unable to fight

the valley fight was pretty dead even, neither was so much faster than the other that one couldnt keep up, my point being is...gaara literally was outmatched during lee's speed boost...which was a major boost, and thats to prove that speed wasnt much of anything compared to gaaras defense...it matters little if he was a jinchuuriki, when you have that much speed, like lee, you tend to compare ppl like him with some of the strongest possible characters

 

[pemayozer]

well people like oro and 3rd raikage have ther durability as their main defense..
minato has his speed which is defence as well as offence..
well speed isnt everything uptill a certain level but minato was beyond that level.
his speed is so much that he is untouchable...very hard for me to think of any attack that can actully hit him..in a one on one fite or even a one vs many where minato doesnt have to worry bout his village or people and fite with his full capability no one can beat him coz no one can connect with their technique..
ftg + rasengan beat almost every one..
for the few with extreme durability we got to remember that the ftg can teleport not only himself but others and not only people but techniques..
the possibility is limitless...
teleport some one into a volcano, that must get oro...
teleport raikage into sand village...he has to spend a few days to get back into the fite... lol

crete a transport barrier infront of you and open it in your oponnents face or back
u get hit by ur own attack tepeported to u

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

yeah speed isn't everything

 

[pemayozer]

FAIL FAIL FAIL
speed isnt enough but who said Minato has just speed....

 

[leafeater]

FAIL FAIL FAIL
speed isnt enough but who said Minato has just speed....

This is exactly what the poster wanted people to avoid understanding and replying, lol.

So far, I would say this thread has been a smashing success in stating the obvious, "speed is not everything." Apparently there are other attributes that compose a ninja such as ninjutsu... etc., and they don't just race each other to death with the loser falling dead at the finish line...lol

By the way, the Madara vs. Minato battle is actually a very bad example, as it's one of the only fights out there that was actually decided by speed.

I don't get this thread, was this thread supposed to make peace or something come about? At the moment there were no Minato fanboy threads, the manga section is somewhat diverse this morning. Your thread is months too late and should've arrived during the Minato vs. A flashbacks for maximal impact in my opinion. Look at the other threads, there's no great degree of unrest really. Albeit, I'll say that this thread has a good amount.

Further, it states something abundantly obvious that can be said about any ninja trait such as ninjutsu, genjutsu (for Itachi fanboys, Itachi), etc. However, Itachi didn't just use genjutsu (Itachi fans know this) and Minato didn't just use speed (Minato fans know this), as speed is a means to an end. Namely speed is a means to the end of an offensive or defensive maneuver, resulting in the landing or evading of an attack. If the subsequent maneuver fails then who cares about the speed.

For example, if Minato, can repeatedly appear right behind the 3rd Raikage's head with a Rasengan that doesn't do jack, then who cares about his speed. Even if Minato is considered more powerful, he's a horrible matchup for the 3rd Raikage. Sure he might figure out about the scar and do the same trick as Naruto, but I hardly find that reassuring considering Naruto's resources on that matter. Where as others who might be considered more powerful than him, would be worse match ups and get taken down. That's how fights work in the Narutoverse. If you expect a shinobi to win every fight, you're dreaming. If he does, then the system is broken. :shrug:

Peace

 

[Animeisalive]

FAIL FAIL FAIL
speed isnt enough but who said Minato has just speed....

as far as we know, thats his greatest asset, unless he decides to go martyr & just take the opponents soul with the reaper, other than that, even his rasengan wont be enough to take someone like sasuke down...so until we see more of his arsenal, the 4th's speed & the way he uses it is his best asset

 

[Suigetsu13]

I already know that zetsu was talking about madara's s/t ninjutsu or speed. What does what you say prove?

The phrase i highlighted doesnt make sense. Also ftg v2, is just an advanced version of ftg. Its faster, thats about it.

Also if you say that ftg v2 is teleporting to a moving object, does that mean you are trying to say that ftg is teleporting to motionless object. If thats what you are trying to say, then you are wrong because during the war he used ftg and the ninja's were obviously moving.

So far as well know minato has only used ftg v2 against madara

This makes sense, because when kakashi was in trouble with that Rock Ninja Minato teleported to him when kakashi was being attacked, But im not sure if The Rock Ninja was moving or not. Either way if he was moving then it proves that there is a second level that he can teleport to moving objects. But I dont really see a point in it.

 

[Spartan117]

You talk as if you know all the jutsu's minato knows. Don't forget hokages are all strong. Nobody becomes hokage just like that. Just think of why the uzumaki' were eradicated. Minato may not be an uzumaki. But, he knows not all but some of their abilities taught to him by kushina.