Sound 5 vs Kakashi & Kabuto (Part 1)

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Kakashi can arguably solo this.

- Sharingan Genjutsu
- Lightning Blade
- Multiple Shadow Clones, Water Clones
- Taijutsu level is above his opponents here( Kimmimaro not far off) with the 3T precognition of the Sharingan.

Four members of the Sound 4 couldn't take Kakashi on as they noted, I don't think adding Kimmimaro would give them the win from what I believe.
 

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"Part 1 Kakashi solos the Sound 5"
I'm actually dying lmfao
Whats the joke? Sound 4 already admitted outright inferiority and raikiri goes through all of kimmi's defenses.

The only problem is that he can only use 4 of them so one of the other members is gonna have to go down without raikiri. But if he did it to zabuza then he can do it to those runts easy
 

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Whats the joke? Sound 4 already admitted outright inferiority and raikiri goes through all of kimmi's defenses.

The only problem is that he can only use 4 of them so one of the other members is gonna have to go down without raikiri. But if he did it to zabuza then he can do it to those runts easy
I'm no Dr. Proof, but I can sure as hell defend these guys if needed. Kakashi soloing the 5 of these guys is absolutely laughable even if we disregard Kimimaro. And here I thought that the Sound 5, or at the very least Kimimaro, were no longer slept on. Welp, allow me to elaborate.

Firstly, lets debunk the asinine rumor. The Sound 4 never admitted inferiority to Kakashi. I have no idea where that rumor started, but everyone seems to believe that bullshit. Kidomaru simply stated that waiting until Sasuke was alone would be an easier job than fighting both he and Kakashi simultaneously. Sakon believed that two of the group would be enough, and Tayuya even believed she could solo! They were not scared of that man like everyone wants to believe.
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Secondly, Kimimaro can fight both Kakashi or Kabuto relatively evenly and I honestly believe Kimimaro can defeat either of them. He has both the hype and the arsenal to do so.

Covering the hype portion of my statement, it's common knowledge that Part 1 Kabuto and Kakashi are roughly equals as stated by Orochimaru.
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Later in the manga, Kabuto stated that Kimimaro is Orochimaru's strongest servant; ergo, stronger than himself.
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So if we want to play the hype game, Kimimaro comes out as top dog here.

Moving onto an actual battle analysis, the only thing in Kakashi's arsenal that can put a stop to Kimimaro is Lightning Blade... but how the hell is he going to land it against a shinobi like Kimimaro? There exist no speed feats that put Part 1 Kakashi faster than Kimimaro to the point that he'd be able to "blitz" him before he could do anything (you said no such thing, i'm just stating some bs i've heard on this base before). If Kakashi wants to rush in and try to Lightning Blade Kimimaro, what's stopping him from getting skewered as Kimimaro reacts?
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With his piss poor stamina, I cannot foresee a scenario where Kimimaro does not outlast Kakashi's reserves and wipe him out [The databook states that Kimimaro's stamina is noticeably higher than Kakashi's]. However, if you want to disagree for whatever reason, there is literally nothing stopping Kimimaro from ending the fight immediately with the bone forest.

Oh, and by the way, OP stated that this is a healthy Kimimaro. Meaning that he's stronger, faster, and has more stamina than the Kimimaro we saw fight Lee and Gaara. Kakashi loses.
 
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I'm no Dr. Proof, but I can sure as hell defend these guys if needed. Kakashi soloing the 5 of these guys is absolutely laughable even if we disregard Kimimaro. And here I thought that the Sound 5, or at the very least Kimimaro, were no longer slept on. Welp, allow me to elaborate.

Firstly, lets debunk the asinine rumor. The Sound 4 never admitted inferiority to Kakashi. I have no idea where that rumor started, but everyone seems to believe that bullshit. Kidomaru simply stated that waiting until Sasuke was alone would be an easier job than fighting both he and Kakashi simultaneously. Sakon believed that two of the group would be enough, and Tayuya even believed she could solo! They were not scared of that man like everyone wants to believe.
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Secondly, Kimimaro can fight both Kakashi or Kabuto relatively evenly and I honestly believe Kimimaro can defeat either of them. He has both the hype and the arsenal to do so.

Covering the hype portion of my statement, it's common knowledge that Part 1 Kabuto and Kakashi are roughly equals as stated by Orochimaru.
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Later in the manga, Kabuto stated that Kimimaro is Orochimaru's strongest servant; ergo, stronger than himself.
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So if we want to play the hype game, Kimimaro comes out as top dog here.

Moving onto an actual battle analysis, the only thing in Kakashi's arsenal that can put a stop to Kimimaro is Lightning Blade... but how the hell is he going to land it against a shinobi like Kimimaro? There exist no speed feats that put Part 1 Kakashi faster than Kimimaro to the point that he'd be able to "blitz" him before he could do anything (you said no such thing, i'm just stating some bs i've heard on this base before). If Kakashi wants to rush in and try to Lightning Blade Kimimaro, what's stopping him from getting skewered as Kimimaro reacts?
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With his piss poor stamina, I cannot foresee a scenario where Kimimaro does not outlast Kakashi's reserves and wipe him out [The databook states that Kimimaro's stamina is noticeably higher than Kakashi's]. However, if you want to disagree for whatever reason, there is literally nothing stopping Kimimaro from ending the fight immediately with the bone forest.

Oh, and by the way, OP stated that this is a healthy Kimimaro. Meaning that he's stronger, faster, and has more stamina than the Kimimaro we saw fight Lee and Gaara. Kakashi loses.
The Tayuya and Sakon argument completely falls apart when the entire sound 4 had to use CS2 to fight Genma and Raido. Kido was the leader and the smartest of the 4, and knew better. The Sound 4 is ridiculously below Kakashi in portrayal. Arguing Kakashi wins with feats is difficult just because Part 1 Kakashi didn't get much beyond the Zabuza and Itachi/Kisame fight, but much like a debate I had on here a while back when someone told me "Hiruzen can't beat Tayuya cause he's never shown a counter for her genjutsu", when portrayal of strength creates a gap this wide, common sense should be used.

Kimi is the only challenge here. And Kakashi+Kabuto would be able to take Kimi with the sound 4 quickly swept aside, but again trying to argue part 1 character fights is annoying just because how little fighting was actually done.
 

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Ridiculous. Tayuya > kakashi. Enough said. Kakashi hasn't shown to be proficient enough in genjutsu, though if he puts her in one or the others, who can use several defenses and offenses to block the sharingan penetrative prowess; she breaks them out of it with curse mode empowered Song; or she summons three Demons from the other world to agitate her body up and release her from the illusion and kimimaro has the best body among all of NV and has the curse seal of heaven I believe which >>> curse of earth and we know what CS of earth has done in damage. And the before part, I was talking about this :
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this match-up is also a direct counter to sharingan pre-cog(kidoumaru's third eye), genjutsu(CS1, CS2,Tayuya), Copying ability(Can't copy CS or kekkei genkai or ninja equipment specialized abilities).

Team Kimi Yayu for the Win.
 

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Lmfao. Kimimaro couldnt even take out ****ing kids and y'all think kakashi can't solo? He shits on the trash sound ***s. He straights up raikiri blitzes 2-3 of them and then the remaining will be picked off single handedly.
 

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I mean I think we are missing some scans here as the sound 4 are stated many times on forums other then this one has not being able to take Kakashi head on. that being said Choji was able to beat 1 of them that means the sound 4 are over rated here not Kakashi.
 
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