Something To Consider

[JoukaiKoutan]

Since there seems to be a lot of discussion regarding the Hokages lately, I thought i'd share some of my input.

1)

Minato fought Tobi who at the time, was controlling the 9-tailed fox. As we know, Minato fought Tobi without the fox at first, and managed to weaken/dismiss him. At this point, Minato had to face the fox by himself. As a result, he sealed the fox into naruto and himself which. As a result, he lost his life. In additon, tobi's sharingan had only 3 tomoi. He had no rinnegan, or anything fancy as he currently does.

2)

The first hokage Hashirama, fought Madara countless times as stated in the manga. On one of these occasions, Madara was controlling the 9-tailed fox. Not much was said about this fight, but we know Hashirama was able to ward off Madara AND the 9-tailed fox without dying. Madara at this point had EMS.

From what I can tell, Hashirama was DEFINITLY stronger then Minato. If this isn't enough to prove it, Kabuto even refers to Hashirama as the strongest in the current era, a legend of his time. "The people that heard about his strength consider him a fairy tale just like the Rikudou Sennin."

I am not trying to bash Minato or anything of that sort, I am an Uchiha Madara fanboy. I'm curious to see what people think of this.

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PLEASE KEEP AN OPEN OPINION. (MINATO FANBOYS)

 

[Skeletor]

Hashirama won because he could control Bijuus with his Wood Release.
And Kabuto said "there is no ninja alive that can go toe-to-toe with Hashirama". That means he was referring to all the alive ninjas.
Here, im not saying that Minato is stronger than Hashirama.
Im just clarifying what I know.

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[Shisui Namikaze]

If it were hashirama as hokage instead of minato when Tobi attacked he would have lost. He has no way to counter tobis s/t tech. His ass would rot in another dimension. I still say minato is better. But that's my opinion.

 

[JoukaiKoutan]

If it were hashirama as hokage instead of minato when Tobi attacked he would have lost. He has no way to counter tobis s/t tech. His ass would rot in another dimension. I still say minato is better. But that's my opinion.

How does he have no way to counter tobi's tech, it's hard to say how it would go down but thats just ridiculous.

As one of the strongest ninja in existance (I'm sure we can all agree on this), I'm sure he can manage. FTG is not unbeatable. Though we would never know.

I'm simply stating that Hashirama was able to handle the 9-tales AND Madara together. Minato could not, and remember he was fighting tobi not madara. I'll assume Madara is stronger than Tobi.

 

[JoukaiKoutan]

Hashirama won because he could control Bijuus with his Wood Release.
And Kabuto said "there is no ninja alive that can go toe-to-toe with Hashirama". That means he was referring to all the alive ninjas.
Here, im not saying that Minato is stronger than Hashirama.
Im just clarifying what I know.

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"Hashirama won because he could control Bijuus with his Wood Release." Sorry I can't see why you included this. Hashirama fought both the nine tailed fox AND Madara together. Saying Hashirama controlling the nine-tailed fox is insignificant because he has wood release is unreasonable.

Kabuto also said, "The people that heard about his strength consider him a fairy tale just like the rikudou sennin.. And now i will make that fairy tale into reality."

 

[izinagi54]

umm naruto as long he maintained bijuu mode and stayed a long to mid distance could have the potential of not only going toe to toe but maybe win the fight because as long he can shoot a fully charged bijuu dama he can win by the way before you argue the **** thing he fired was as strong as 7 tailed beast o not mention accurate as he made it go under the other one to advoid collatoral for minato sealing techniques got harashima beat

 

[JoukaiKoutan]

What did you just say? Why are you involving Naruto in this. Please stay on-topic. This is a mere comparison between Minato and Hashirama.

 

[JoukaiKoutan]

Going to sleep, I hope people don't bash on my post too hard.

 

[The Silent Killer]

i already told in my previous thread i like Minato alot but still Hashirama is stonger than him . but about your logic : Minato had to defend himself +naruto + kushina+ whole all of the Konoha and fight 9tails and Tibo at the same time but Hashirama was one on one with Madara and Ninetails + he had natural ability to tame nine tails cuz of his Mokuton.

But still it doesnt changes the fact that Hashirama > Minato (thogh it hurts me alot to accept as i like minato alot hes ma fav. character).

 

[Minator93]

If it were hashirama as hokage instead of minato when Tobi attacked he would have lost. He has no way to counter tobis s/t tech. His ass would rot in another dimension. I still say minato is better. But that's my opinion.

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[-Hades-]

It is not that fair of a comparison, the only thing common in the 2 fights was Kurama, which again is not that fair because Hashirama had the natural ability to control/suppress it while Minato didn't. Minato is the strongest NORMAL shinoby i would say, no Kekegenkai or bloodlines or anything genetic that would help him out and boost his power.

Again if you change their opponents (Minato fighting Madara and Hashirama fighting Tobi) they might loose. It's not all about power, it is also about match-up and how your abilities suit your opponent.

Overall i have to agree that Hashirama was stronger (considering only what we have seen from the 2 characters) but this doesn't necessarily mean that he would win against Minato.

It is hard to figure out Hashirama's power, when he was first resurrected as an EDO he was fairly weak, i mean come on old Hiruzen managed against him and his brother. And now Madara with Hashirama's DNA is like a GOD (even only considering how he uses wood jutsu) so it is either the fact that MAdara in this form is stronger than Hashirama (i mean Hashirama's abilities that he uses are stronger than the original) or Oro was a fool and had no idea of how to use Hashirama as an edo pawn...

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

How does he have no way to counter tobi's tech, it's hard to say how it would go down but thats just ridiculous.

As one of the strongest ninja in existance (I'm sure we can all agree on this), I'm sure he can manage. FTG is not unbeatable. Though we would never know.

I'm simply stating that Hashirama was able to handle the 9-tales AND Madara together. Minato could not, and remember he was fighting tobi not madara. I'll assume Madara is stronger than Tobi.

Are you serious? What technique does hashirama have that can "touch" Tobi. For one hashirama is slow as shit and so is his jutsu. He would simply try to surpress the kyuubi and Tobi would touch and say we're done. Boom he's in another dimension. He has no way to defend against that.