Something that's always gotten to me..

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People really stray off topic here.

To answer your question, good sir, I believe it was because Naruto only demonstrated a few of the qualities needed to actually become a chuunin. He was very quick thinking, forward in his approach, but he didn't really plan anything out very well. He also talked a fair bit and those qualities may have negatively affected his score. Sasuke and Shikamaru showed much calmer, level-headed approaches in how they dealt with their battles which is why Shikamaru got promoted and Sasuke was told by the toothpick guy that he was already at that level.

So, Naruto displayed the power and will needed to become a chuunin, but lacked the mental maturity and approach to actually earn the title.

Killed it.

That's who Naruto is, he still does the talking bits, he could have been paired with someone who would level him out like Shika. Naruto stopped Gaara, a person even Sasuke couldn't stop. That feat alone would make me want to promote him and pair him with his counter on missions.

I do get what you're saying though.

I personally think it was because people still didn't trust him.
 

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Guys I'm talking about something I noticed in part 1, anything he did in part 2 has no relevance to my thread.

Naruto outsmarted genius Neji and won, stopped Gaara from rampaging in the Leaf, and gained the sand as an ally. Sasuke couldn't even do anything. That was the finals of the chunnin exam, so I don't think that was a failure of an exam. He should have been promoted just like Shika.

My point is, he had full potential to be promoted, yet wasn't for some reason, a reason I've yet to figure out.

My bad yo. Yeah he should have been promoted, but it's Orochimarus fault that he didn't. Shikimaru was only promoted since he displayed the best leadership qualities, i.e. knowing when to give up/retreat. Sure Naruto was strong enough but he wasn't smart enough or mature enough to get promoted
 

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What also bothered me how Sakura became chunin because she didn't have a team 0.0 I mean they had to take exams again right so how she did it without a team??
 

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Kizaru is from One Piece. Also, Kizaru > Naruto. I think you're referring to Kakuzu.


I don't watch one piece and that has nothing to do with my thread.

Also I was talking about: Plus plenty of Edos.

Naruto didn't fight any Edo from what I remember around that time frame.

I am talking about part 1 and the events during and after the chunnin exam.
 

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What also bothered me how Sakura became chunin because she didn't have a team 0.0 I mean they had to take exams again right so how she did it without a team??

Thats what I want to know, maybe she isn't as incompetent as people think and didn't need to take them.
 
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I get that, but in part 1 he wasn't. He's saved the village more than once if you think about it, so if he was made chunnin and was paired with Shika it would make sense. Naruto had the ability to be promoted just out of his pure power and Shika had the brains. It's a dang hole.



You do realize that all the anime that came after the valley of the end fight is filler, correct.
if not read the manga from start to finsih and you will see that the writer stop caring about ranks at the end of the chunin fights, the "trials"after the gap were just a way of refreshing/introducing the system of ninja class. Immediately dropping it for Orochimaru and Sasuke Chase arc.
 

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You do realize that all the anime that came after the valley of the end fight is filler, correct.
if not read the manga from start to finsih and you will see that the writer stop caring about ranks at the end of the chunin fights, the "trials"after the gap were just a way of refreshing/introducing the system of ninja class. Immediately dropping it for Orochimaru and Sasuke Chase arc.


That's not the part I am talking about. I know this.

On another note (not to you dude)

Look, it was just something I noticed, you people aren't getting it and I have to keep explaining what part, what things he's done, and yet you people are posting irrelevant shit still and trolling the hell out of me. It's just something I noticed and I felt Naruto had what it took to be a chunnin at the time, the way he acts is who he is, and he still wastes time talking. He isn't a leader by far in part 1, I get that, but not all chunnin are leaders. They were going to make Shika chunnin, he is perfect to be the partner of Naruto if they promoted him as well. This is all I wanted to point out, I respect those of you who take this into account and tried to answer it, but I don't respect those of you who are taking this as an opportunity to be a child and post useless shit just because it isn't that serious of a thread, but just my thoughts. Get some respect, I am ignoring everyone else other than people actually here to read and enjoy my thread.
 

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he should be, considering the shinobi kunai fodder that theyve shown in the war.
chunnin- easily - hes smart and strong enough
jonin- maybe - seems to be based more on leadership than strength, naruto has inspiring ability but we havent seen him lead a team, he has strategy when fighting foes but for the most part he solos them. even when fighting tobi, kakashi was leading, when fighting zombie nagato itachi was leading, for zombie raikage he asked for intel but soloed, fighting that zombie mummy he asked gaara for a boost but again.. he soloed so there you go.
but really... hes so powerful that even Sannin/hokage rank is below him in terms of power
 

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That's not the part I am talking about. I know this.

On another note (not to you dude)

Look, it was just something I noticed, you people aren't getting it and I have to keep explaining what part, what things he's done, and yet you people are posting irrelevant shit still and trolling the hell out of me. It's just something I noticed and I felt Naruto had what it took to be a chunnin at the time, the way he acts is who he is, and he still wastes time talking. He isn't a leader by far in part 1, I get that, but not all chunnin are leaders. They were going to make Shika chunnin, he is perfect to be the partner of Naruto if they promoted him as well. This is all I wanted to point out, I respect those of you who take this into account and tried to answer it, but I don't respect those of you who are taking this as an opportunity to be a child and post useless shit just because it isn't that serious of a thread, but just my thoughts. Get some respect, I am ignoring everyone else other than people actually here to read and enjoy my thread.

there is no need to be upset
 

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The qualities they were looking for in a chuunin were maturity and the ability to properly lead a small team/ group, naruto had neither... skill and strength aren't the only things
 

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I think it was overshadowed by the invasion... once he proved himself after it wasn't necessary.
 

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there is no need to be upset

I'm not upset, I just put it in large font so people would read it.

However I am just tired of people doing this kind of thing. I come here to have fun and share my opinion or thoughts, not sift through comments and get trolled. It's not what I signed up for. Anyone that gets in my way as far as reason of being here is going to hear it from me.

If you don't like me for some reason, or whatever I posted, then just turn around and go back to the other threads. I do that all the time if I don't fully agree(yet they make a point no less), or w/e it is instead of sit around and troll someone.

All I want is people to show me respect since that's all I show back.
 
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That's not the part I am talking about. I know this.

On another note (not to you dude)

Look, it was just something I noticed, you people aren't getting it and I have to keep explaining what part, what things he's done, and yet you people are posting irrelevant shit still and trolling the hell out of me. It's just something I noticed and I felt Naruto had what it took to be a chunnin at the time, the way he acts is who he is, and he still wastes time talking. He isn't a leader by far in part 1, I get that, but not all chunnin are leaders. They were going to make Shika chunnin, he is perfect to be the partner of Naruto if they promoted him as well. This is all I wanted to point out, I respect those of you who take this into account and tried to answer it, but I don't respect those of you who are taking this as an opportunity to be a child and post useless shit just because it isn't that serious of a thread, but just my thoughts. Get some respect, I am ignoring everyone else other than people actually here to read and enjoy my thread.

Ok... I agree that he could have been promoted. However I think that Gara going Bananas kind botched it for a lot of people (Temari comes to mind). But in truth the whole thing (in my opinion) was the consequence of the writer having sold his story at that point, and having to incorporate the desires of the company that bought the rights. I say this because from that point in the story you see the shift of importance leaving ranks and being given to UN-realistic power.

I wouldn't say it's a plot hole though, however I will be the first to step up and tell you that if that's the first thing in this series to catch your eye. Then your in for a lot more as you progress through the story. Sometimes I think Kishi scrapped his outlines for his original story lines and has been just floating by (detailing out his world instead of developing characters in to their own archetypes) since the valley of the end fight....
 
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