Something people forget about part 1

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Lol, i don't know why this happens to a whole lot of people, but people usually forget this. And i do to in a heated argument. But, let me tell you what i'm talking about. Also, before that, please don't bother trolling or spamming... :eww:


Now you see most people on base usually forget that Part 1 revolved around Genins who weren't even that relevant to that Naruto-verse at that point. I mean we can literally look at the Sasuke situation.. nothing big there to the shinobi world. But sometimes we tend to think that genins from part 1 are top teir or something. While failing to acknowledge Kishimoto never put in a Jounin in those genin missions.. why? Because if he had put jounins in those genin level missions, then i'm sorry but the enemies like the sound 4 would've been killed easily.




See people get impressed from the flashy stuff. "Ohhh he did that, so he can't do that". " OH SHIT Curse MArk level 2 DAMMNN".. but then fail to acknowledge the fact that if those kids face jounin level ninja, they won't even have the time to do such things. The reason why the Sound 4 fights went so long was because there were kids fighting... its not gonna happen if you had someone like Asuma/Kakashi/Gai fighting..

Though this is not entirely the fans fault. It is partially Kishimoto's fault also. In fact Oda and Kubo do it also for some reason. They hype up the main character's events that are like tiny specs in that verse , but then don't make the things surrounding them that big. This then tends to give the fans the thinking oh this is the main thing.




OVERALL POINT: We tend to think that the main storyline being shown to us is an important a big time thing in that universe, but it sadly is not. And with this i want to say, that the genins from part 1 can be solo'd by most of the jounins from Konoha. Meaning Ebisu > Neji/Shika/Chouji/Sound 4/ and so on. Only ones in questioning are Naruto and Sasuke, with them the thing would be if they even get far enough into the fight to even go into CM or kyuubi mode like that..

Agree?? or no? Leave what you think down below .
 

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Ebisu is featless, Kidomaru got dis
 

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Woah just read through man that's a tough one. Naruto and Sasuke I'm gonna say are on their whole own level because they were the ones at the front of the battlefield now. I agree on the secondary characters not being that amazing
 

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They should have actually used some characters [K11] and developed their strengths like they did in Part 1.
 

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No, Kiba could still defeat most Jounin low diff
 

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You have a point, Shippuden is when they start to explore how much more powerful and dangerous the ninja world is. In part one it was the perspective and a focus on young children, now its more on a young adult perspective of the real world.
 

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The fact that Naruto is still a Gennin ruins your point, it proves the rankings were, and will always be bullshit.
Btw Naruto defeated Garaa who at that point only the 4th Kazekage could handle, he even killed Jonins and Anbu.
 

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Woah just read through man that's a tough one. Naruto and Sasuke I'm gonna say are on their whole own level because they were the ones at the front of the battlefield now. I agree on the secondary characters not being that amazing

No no i'm referring to part 1 bro. Back in part 1 Naruto vs Sasuke was hardly relevant to the Naruto-verse.
 

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This man above proves my point ^^^

It sounds like you're using titles as an argument. Kakashi even said children are capable of being stronger than him, Kidomaru. Got. Dis.
 

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You have a point, Shippuden is when they start to explore how much more powerful and dangerous the ninja world is. In part one it was the perspective and a focus on young children, now its more on a young adult perspective of the real world.
Precisely, and the problem with shippuden was Kishimoto didn't make the jounin that flashy compared to the genins in part 1.

The fact that Naruto is still a Gennin ruins your point, it proves the rankings were, and will always be bullshit.
Btw Naruto defeated Garaa who at that point only the 4th Kazekage could handle, he even killed Jonins and Anbu.
Hmm you are aware, Naruto isn't even in the ranking system right? o_O

It sounds like you're using titles as an argument. Kakashi even said children are capable of being stronger than him, Kidomaru. Got. Dis.

Seems like you believe Titles are given out for fun. Ah but he did say him while acknowledging hardly any kid is stronger than him. Capable =/= is.
 

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Kabuto was a Genin so.........:yeah:
 

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I agree with most of what you said. But the jonin ninja did fight the sound 4. The chunin exam instructor and that guy with the burnt face. Infact the sound ninja beat them by entering into curse mode. The ninja I am talking about are the same ninja who brought the mizukage to the battlefield using FTG. Two of those shinobi were beaten by the sound 4. And they were jonin at the time. Like I said I agree with most of what your saying about there being a bigger picture and all but. The sound ninja beat jonin level leaf ninja. And they also claimed to be the 4th hokage s body guards.
 

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Kabuto was a Genin so.........:yeah:

Kid ain't even in the ranking system. Rofl. Holy sh*t. You do realize he is a criminal. And the "genin" was a fake thing right?

I agree with most of what you said. But the jonin ninja did fight the sound 4. The chunin exam instructor and that guy with the burnt face. Infact the sound ninja beat them by entering into curse mode. The ninja I am talking about are the same ninja who brought the mizukage to the battlefield using FTG. Two of those shinobi were beaten by the sound 4. And they were jonin at the time. Like I said I agree with most of what your saying about there being a bigger picture and all but. The sound ninja beat jonin level leaf ninja. And they also claimed to be the 4th hokage s body guards.
Sound four turned into CM 2 starting of the fight, and then Genma and Raidou were able to basically waste 98% of their stamina.
 

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Hmm you are aware, Naruto isn't even in the ranking system right? o_O



Seems like you believe Titles are given out for fun.
Since when?
Btw explain Garaa terrifying every ninja in his village, and then getting beat by Naruto, a genin.
 

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I'm not so sure. Remember Genma and Raido? The sound 4 fought them and the results were not good for Genma's clique. Granted, the sound 4 said they would have been done for if they didn't go CM lvl 2 but it didn't seem like the Sound 4 was that worn out from their battle when fought the Sasuke Rescue Squad. Where Genma and others failed, the genin were able to go toe-to-toe with sound 4 for a while which is why I feel that some of the genin in part 1 can e considered Chuunin-low Jounin level.
 

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Ebisu as an example is completely retarded , the guy has no feats at all , I'm pretty sure everyone in K11 beat him & Konohamaru .
 

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Precisely, and the problem with shippuden was Kishimoto didn't make the jounin that flashy compared to the genins in part 1.


Hmm you are aware, Naruto isn't even in the ranking system right? o_O



Seems like you believe Titles are given out for fun. Ah but he did say him while acknowledging hardly any kid is stronger than him. Capable =/= is.

Orochimaru is a Sannin, one of the strongest the Leaf produced, yet he got horribly defeated by Itachi who has no title. Title's don't mean everything, which is what you don't seem to get. Naruto is a Genin, but Tsunade is a HOKAGE. Now tell me, who's stronger?
 

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Kid ain't even in the ranking system. Rofl. Holy sh*t. You do realize he is a criminal. And the "genin" was a fake thing right?
Who says he isn't in the ranking system you? last i check he was a in the chuunin exams as a shinobi of KONOHA meaning he was registered, it doesn't matter if he's a criminal his official rank was genin.
 
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