Something I dont get about Rinnegan.

[Zavage10]

Thought that Chakra receiver manifestation was In'Youton (Yin-Yang release), and not really to do with the Rinnegan. Although, In'Youton and Rinnegan go hand in hand, so...

You are flat out wrong...

This is the db entry of the barrier that obito used against the alliance. In this it clarifies how the rod come exclusively from the rinnegan.

Heading: The strongest barrier surpassing the Four Red Yang Formation - Six Red Yang Formation (六赤陽陣, Musekiyōjin)

A Barrier technique of the highest calibre that cannot be used by anyone else except for ones blessed with the power of the Six Paths. It outdoes the Four Red Yang Formation in scale and solidity; ones with the Rinnegan opened distribute the trademark black receivers (Chakra rods) to various places in the area, and will manifest this huge barrier by oneself. It is impossible for anyone to step past this barrier. (Coming from) The Father of Ninja, that is why such an extraordinary giant red barrier is possible.

↑ The barrier’s enormity is beyond even that of the Four Red Yang Formation. Obito encloses the whole battlefield, denying the Ninja way of retreat.

 

[antwquan]

Well, theoretically... Unless someone could prove it wrong.

I see. Because I've been seeing people say you have to be connected to Juubi/Mazo to be able to use them.

 

[Zavage10]

Thought that Chakra receiver manifestation was In'Youton (Yin-Yang release), and not really to do with the Rinnegan. Although, In'Youton and Rinnegan go hand in hand, so...

You are flat out wrong...

This is the db entry of the barrier that obito used against the alliance. In this it clarifies how the rod come exclusively from the rinnegan.

Heading: The strongest barrier surpassing the Four Red Yang Formation - Six Red Yang Formation (六赤陽陣, Musekiyōjin)

A Barrier technique of the highest calibre that cannot be used by anyone else except for ones blessed with the power of the Six Paths. It outdoes the Four Red Yang Formation in scale and solidity; ones with the Rinnegan opened distribute the trademark black receivers (Chakra rods) to various places in the area, and will manifest this huge barrier by oneself. It is impossible for anyone to step past this barrier. (Coming from) The Father of Ninja, that is why such an extraordinary giant red barrier is possible.

↑ The barrier’s enormity is beyond even that of the Four Red Yang Formation. Obito encloses the whole battlefield, denying the Ninja way of retreat.

 

[AaaaNinja]

Because nagato wanted to have each power in a different body that's why.

He's the only rinnegan user able to do that, displayed.

Obito did it. Don't you remember the whole ordeal with Naruto locating and removing their rods?

Ok so we all know Rinnegan can control dead bodies right? But chakra rods are needed to transmit chakra to the dead bodies. Some people say chakra rods isn't a Rinnegan technique but from being connected to the Mazo if that's the case then how do a Rinnegan user master/use the 6 paths of pain if they don't have chakra receivers?

The rods controlled them, but the two techs (rods and binding to Gedo Mazou) are separate. They both require rinnegan.

The rods controlled the bodies, animated them. When Naruto removed Son Goku's rod, Son Goku had his free will back and he was able to stop trying to eat Naruto and actually reach out his paw and break Naruto's fall. Son Goku was still, however, bound (leashed) to the statue. It was a completely separate tech unaffected by Naruto's removal of the chakra rods. The Gedo Mazou leashes have been used twice and the tailed beasts are helpless against it.

I would say that it's not the case and the people who say those things are wrong. They are two different techs.

 

[antwquan]

That's right. This is why TSB have been used as substitutes for chakra receivers

TSB and chakra receivers are used in the same way right? Just TSB has more variety.

 

[Torche]

You are flat out wrong...

This is the db entry of the barrier that obito used against the alliance. In this it clarifies how the rod come exclusively from the rinnegan.

Heading: The strongest barrier surpassing the Four Red Yang Formation - Six Red Yang Formation (六赤陽陣, Musekiyōjin)

A Barrier technique of the highest calibre that cannot be used by anyone else except for ones blessed with the power of the Six Paths. It outdoes the Four Red Yang Formation in scale and solidity; ones with the Rinnegan opened distribute the trademark black receivers (Chakra rods) to various places in the area, and will manifest this huge barrier by oneself. It is impossible for anyone to step past this barrier. (Coming from) The Father of Ninja, that is why such an extraordinary giant red barrier is possible.

↑ The barrier’s enormity is beyond even that of the Four Red Yang Formation. Obito encloses the whole battlefield, denying the Ninja way of retreat.

Yeah okay, I'm wrong. Sorry that I don't read every piece of info. No need to get so worked up. Lol

 

[antwquan]

Obito did it. Don't you remember the whole ordeal with Naruto locating and removing their rods?



The rods controlled them, but the two techs (rods and binding to Gedo Mazou) are separate. They both require rinnegan.

The rods controlled the bodies, animated them. When Naruto removed Son Goku's rod, Son Goku had his free will back and he was able to stop trying to eat Naruto and actually reach out his paw and break Naruto's fall. Son Goku was still, however, bound (leashed) to the statue. It was a completely separate tech unaffected by Naruto's removal of the chakra rods. The Gedo Mazou leashes have been used twice and the tailed beasts are helpless against it.

I would say that it's not the case and the people who say those things are wrong. They are two different techs.

No I meant being connected to the Mazo to be able to use the chakra rods

 

[Ansatsuken]

Look, BZ is product of Kaguya's Yin-Yang power.

BZ can control someone unless they have strong will to negate BZ control like Obito and naruto.

It same as Black Rod here

 

[Gerkak]

TSB and chakra receivers are used in the same way right? Just TSB has more variety.

Not quite. The chakra receivers are only used to disrupt or control someones chakra. TSB can be used for many things, my point was the TSB can be used as substitutes for chakra receivers. Naruto was able to paralyze and restrict black zetsu's movements by stabbing him with the hermit rod.

As we know BZ can turn into a semi formless state and escape almost any tight spot. The only way I see him not being able to move is if the rods were disrupting his chakra not unlike chakra receivers of the outer path.

 

[antwquan]

Not quite. The chakra receivers are only used to disrupt or control someones chakra. TSB can be used for many things, my point was the TSB can be used as substitutes for chakra receivers. Naruto was able to paralyze and restrict black zetsu's movements by stabbing him with the hermit rod.

As we know BZ can turn into a semi formless state and escape almost any tight spot. The only way I see him not being able to move is if the rods were disrupting his chakra not unlike chakra receivers of the outer path.

Ooh okay gotcha

 

[Zavage10]

Not quite. The chakra receivers are only used to disrupt or control someones chakra. TSB can be used for many things, my point was the TSB can be used as substitutes for chakra receivers. Naruto was able to paralyze and restrict black zetsu's movements by stabbing him with the hermit rod.

As we know BZ can turn into a semi formless state and escape almost any tight spot. The only way I see him not being able to move is if the rods were disrupting his chakra not unlike chakra receivers of the outer path.

Chakra receivers can also be used to formed barriers.

 

[Gerkak]

Chakra receivers can also be used to formed barriers.

Yes they can.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Because nagato wanted to have each power in a different body that's why.

He's the only rinnegan user able to do that, displayed.

Wrong, Obito used 6 paths on the corpses of jinchuuriki. Sasuke can use it too

 

[Rikodou Mode]

So someone like Sasuke won't be able to produce chakra rods for 6 paths right? Or control the bodies at all

He can. Every Rinnegan user gains access to the Outer Path and Gedo Mazo summon. Chakra rods are made out of chakra. After he syncs himself to the GM then he can use them however he wants. And his 6 paths jutsu would put Nagato's to shame really.

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Because nagato wanted to have each power in a different body that's why.

He's the only rinnegan user able to do that, displayed.

False

Don't hype negato Obito did it too madara did it to a living obito

The rods are yin yang release the person's will manifested

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Look, BZ is product of Kaguya's Yin-Yang power.

BZ can control someone unless they have strong will to negate BZ control like Obito and naruto.

It same as Black Rod here

Personally I believe black zetsu is exactly what he said he was kayuga's will

Which is what the black rods are the person's will

Bz = chakra rod

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

You are flat out wrong...

This is the db entry of the barrier that obito used against the alliance. In this it clarifies how the rod come exclusively from the rinnegan.

Heading: The strongest barrier surpassing the Four Red Yang Formation - Six Red Yang Formation (六赤陽陣, Musekiyōjin)

A Barrier technique of the highest calibre that cannot be used by anyone else except for ones blessed with the power of the Six Paths. It outdoes the Four Red Yang Formation in scale and solidity; ones with the Rinnegan opened distribute the trademark black receivers (Chakra rods) to various places in the area, and will manifest this huge barrier by oneself. It is impossible for anyone to step past this barrier. (Coming from) The Father of Ninja, that is why such an extraordinary giant red barrier is possible.

↑ The barrier’s enormity is beyond even that of the Four Red Yang Formation. Obito encloses the whole battlefield, denying the Ninja way of retreat.

But madara didn't have his rinnegan when he placed that seal on Obito which created black rods

It's somewhat confusing since only rinnegan and 6p senjutsu can use yin yang release

But anyways good post

 

[VongolaX]

Black rods are not a rinnegan technique:

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Both Obito and Nagato were implanted by the Gedo mazou itself.

Rinnegan cannot produce rods:

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There's a limit to which dead body can hold, preta path pulling out the rods from animal path is another good example.

The 3rd databook even stated that they don't know where the black rods come from.