[Discussion] something i do not understand about Adolf Hitler

[minamoto]

He killed himself inside the bunker. He was completely blind to his war machine being dominated until it was too late. By the time he came to the realization he was beaten, it was too late for him to get away. There was no air field for him to fly away with and there was no way he could simply walk the street and get way without being killed. The only conceivable way he could have survived would have been if he had a bunker underneath his first bunker that the allies never discovered, but trust me if it was there they would have.

Even in the remotest reality where he managed to get away, he is surely dead by now as he'd be 126 years old -_-.

some people can live till 150 or maybe even more....AN INVINCIBLE IMMORTAL THATS WHAT HITLER COULD BE!

 

[Yubel]

He didn't actually die. It was a massive cover up using a body double. Truth is that Hitler was placed into a deep cryogenic sleep, and is set to awaken in 2145 100 years after his supposed death to finish what he started and usher in a new world order.

That's 200 years after his supposed death, go back to school.

 

[minamoto]

The FBI is documenting a supposed eyewitness account of Hitler hiding out in Argentina. One bit reads that he was spotted going into some kind of underground facility (sound familiar?).

There's also the 2009 study that supposedly discovered that that skull was not Hitler's nor Eva's, but some 40 year old woman. This is probably more or less what Kishi was referring to with "controversy".

wait!!..wtf did i just read?....so the cave rumors are true then??

 

[Caliburn]

Hitler committed suicide when the Russians were invading Berlin. Afterwards the remaining Nazi's tried to destroy his body by burning it I think so that it couldn't be abused, however some parts still remained, which they stuck into a coffin and buried it. Eventually somehow the Russians found it and it and eventually it ended up in the basement of a Russian museum (if you want to get rid of something, stick it into the basement of a museum as they will not find it for decades). Not too long ago they were able to track down the supposed remains of Hitler and they compared the remnants of the skull and teeth with Hitler's dental records, which they got from Hitler's personal dentist who was still alive at the time. As Hitler apparently had quite poor dental hygiene, it wasn't too difficult to identify the skull remains as that of Hitler as his teeth were quite characteristic and unique due to all the work the dentist had on him.

 

[minamoto]

Hitler committed suicide when the Russians were invading Berlin. Afterwards the remaining Nazi's tried to destroy his body by burning it I think so that it couldn't be abused, however some parts still remained, which they stuck into a coffin and buried it. Eventually somehow the Russians found it and it and eventually it ended up in the basement of a Russian museum (if you want to get rid of something, stick it into the basement of a museum as they will not find it for decades). Not too long ago they were able to track down the supposed remains of Hitler and they compared the remnants of the skull and teeth with Hitler's dental records, which they got from Hitler's personal dentist who was still alive at the time. As Hitler apparently had quite poor dental hygiene, it wasn't too difficult to identify the skull remains as that of Hitler as his teeth were quite characteristic and unique due to all the work the dentist had on him.

but some comments here ,they disprove your Opinion

 

[Caliburn]

but some comments here ,they disprove your Opinion

You want to get your thread closed, trashed and infracted? As this is how you get your thread closed, trashed and infracted. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but you seem to have no intention whatsoever to actually discuss this seriously. You go on about utter preposterous things like invincible immortals and mythical cave creatures, but when I provide you with a summary of a serious historical study that was conducted not too long ago about this topic, you, the guy who is going on about invincible immortals which is baseless as something can possible be, go make comments like that it's improbable because of comments made in this thread...which is you going on about immortals and cave creatures and not a single one of these comments disproves the historical study =/

 

[minamoto]

You want to get your thread closed, trashed and infracted? As this is how you get your thread closed, trashed and infracted. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but you seem to have no intention whatsoever to actually discuss this seriously. You go on about utter preposterous things like invincible immortals and mythical cave creatures, but when I provide you with a summary of a serious historical study that was conducted not too long ago about this topic, you, the guy who is going on about invincible immortals which is baseless as something can possible be, go make comments like that it's improbable because of comments made in this thread...which is you going on about immortals and cave creatures and not a single one of these comments disproves the historical study =/

RedBold : Honestly...you should'nt have said that...i don't even know how to reply to this

-i feel like you are forcing your opinions on me making it seem like its the truth...but nvm like wise itachi Uchiha says "ONE'S TRUTH IS ANOTHER'S ILLUSION"

-when i said some comments disprove your opinion..i didn't mean exactly immortality,but i meant other theories such as the FBI one provided by a member.....

-History is full of lies...one can simply fake his death and cheat history...if soul and spirituality exists, then cave creatures might exist!

 

[ZK]

Spoiler

RedBold : Honestly...you should'nt have said that...i don't even know how to reply to this

-i feel like you are forcing your opinions on me making it seem like its the truth...but nvm like wise itachi Uchiha says "ONE'S TRUTH IS ANOTHER'S ILLUSION"

-when i said some comments disprove your opinion..i didn't mean exactly immortality,but i meant other theories such as the FBI one provided by a member.....

-History is full of lies...one can simply fake his death and cheat history...if soul and spirituality exists, then cave creatures might exist!

Okay, I see what Cali meant about 'benefit of the doubt' now.
History is history. There are a lot of things that we can't know for sure, but all historical evidence points to Hitler having committed suicide in the Führerbunker along with his wife Eva Barun sometime in April 1945.

History isn't full of lies. To imply that you know better than academics who spend years of their lives meticulously researching these things is nothing short of ludicrous. No historian will purposely lie to you. There's no agenda. It's history.

But yeah, by your logic I suppose Elvis is alive and well, too. Don't stop believing hold onto that feeling

 

[minamoto]

Okay, I see what Cali meant about 'benefit of the doubt' now.
History is history. There are a lot of things that we can't know for sure, but all historical evidence points to Hitler having committed suicide in the Führerbunker along with his wife Eva Barun sometime in April 1945.

History isn't full of lies. To imply that you know better than academics who spend years of their lives meticulously researching these things is nothing short of ludicrous. No historian will purposely lie to you. There's no agenda. It's history.

But yeah, by your logic I suppose Elvis is alive and well, too. Don't stop believing hold onto that feeling

RdBold : evidences say that the possibilities of Elvis being still alive are 5%....but the possibility of hitler being stil alive(at least till 90') is 80%.......

 

[-immortal-]

Hitler died because he had no balls to be captured or even tried to escape.

He killed his wife and killed himself. There are theories of him escaping with an underwhat ship and went to argentina.

But its 2015 and it would lon be discovered if he ever was there or not. He simply shot him self with a bullet thru is skull and that was the end of Le war.


Hitler was never defeated, he defeated himself - The truth

 

[minamoto]

Hitler died because he had no balls to be captured or even tried to escape.

He killed his wife and killed himself. There are theories of him escaping with an underwhat ship and went to argentina.

But its 2015 and it would lon be discovered if he ever was there or not. He simply shot him self with a bullet thru is skull and that was the end of Le war.


Hitler was never defeated, he defeated himself - The truth

dats just your Opinion

 

[Widow Maker]

watch the movie untergang "aka downfall" 2004.

 

[Widow Maker]

You want to get your thread closed, trashed and infracted? As this is how you get your thread closed, trashed and infracted. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but you seem to have no intention whatsoever to actually discuss this seriously. You go on about utter preposterous things like invincible immortals and mythical cave creatures, but when I provide you with a summary of a serious historical study that was conducted not too long ago about this topic, you, the guy who is going on about invincible immortals which is baseless as something can possible be, go make comments like that it's improbable because of comments made in this thread...which is you going on about immortals and cave creatures and not a single one of these comments disproves the historical study =/

Really ?

The fact that you just said that and nobody Reported the hell outta you means only 1 thing. You and your merry band of virtual tyrants have successfully broken the poor naive members of this forum.

With that one comment you just proved what selfserving egoistic tyrants you and your fellow Adminstrators are. Enforcing your opinions on others? and threatning to infract them? lol I dont think Ive ever encountered a forum with a more horrid leadership.

I only regret wasting my time appealing to the staff all that time ago, when clearly you are all llunatics.

But like any other real Tyranny, the people are also to blame, for standing aside and taking shit from those few insane individuals. That is because most of the members are as twisted and sadistic as you. Afterall, you were chosen for the members, from among the members.

Do yourself a favor. Go out once in a while, get some fresh air, you might just realize whats been escaping your strained mind. That you are just a nerd with a toolbox.

Veritas

 

[minamoto]

Really ?

The fact that you just said that and nobody Reported the hell outta you means only 1 thing. You and your merry band of virtual tyrants have successfully broken the poor naive members of this forum.

With that one comment you just proved what selfserving egoistic tyrants you and your fellow Adminstrators are. Enforcing your opinions on others? and threatning to infract them? lol I dont think Ive ever encountered a forum with a more horrid leadership.

I only regret wasting my time appealing to the staff all that time ago, when clearly you are all llunatics.

But like any other real Tyranny, the people are also to blame, for standing aside and taking shit from those few insane individuals. That is because most of the members are as twisted and sadistic as you. Afterall, you were chosen for the members, from among the members.

Do yourself a favor. Go out once in a while, get some fresh air, you might just realize whats been escaping your strained mind. That you are just a nerd with a toolbox.

Veritas

are you really Veritas or just some1 pretending to be him?.....anyway whoever you are...i never believed justice exist even in Naruto forumes

 

[BlueToweR12]

are you really Veritas or just some1 pretending to be him?.....anyway whoever you are...i never believed justice exist even in Naruto forumes

Didn't you mean Versuvio?

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Btw Caliburn rekt this thread...

 

[Diabound]

You want to get your thread closed, trashed and infracted? As this is how you get your thread closed, trashed and infracted. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but you seem to have no intention whatsoever to actually discuss this seriously. You go on about utter preposterous things like invincible immortals and mythical cave creatures, but when I provide you with a summary of a serious historical study that was conducted not too long ago about this topic, you, the guy who is going on about invincible immortals which is baseless as something can possible be, go make comments like that it's improbable because of comments made in this thread...which is you going on about immortals and cave creatures and not a single one of these comments disproves the historical study =/

I suggest you perma ban him, he's really annoying.

 

[Agent Phrank]

Hitler committed suicide when the Russians were invading Berlin. Afterwards the remaining Nazi's tried to destroy his body by burning it I think so that it couldn't be abused, however some parts still remained, which they stuck into a coffin and buried it. Eventually somehow the Russians found it and it and eventually it ended up in the basement of a Russian museum (if you want to get rid of something, stick it into the basement of a museum as they will not find it for decades). Not too long ago they were able to track down the supposed remains of Hitler and they compared the remnants of the skull and teeth with Hitler's dental records, which they got from Hitler's personal dentist who was still alive at the time. As Hitler apparently had quite poor dental hygiene, it wasn't too difficult to identify the skull remains as that of Hitler as his teeth were quite characteristic and unique due to all the work the dentist had on him.

----The Only Forensic Evidence Of Hitler's Suicide Was Proven To Be Fake In 2009

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From the article:
"But the skull fragment the Russians dug up outside the Führerbunker in 1946 could never have belonged to Hitler. The skull DNA was incontestably female. The only positive physical proof that Hitler had shot himself had suddenly been rendered worthless. The result is a mystery reopened and, for conspiracy theorists the tantalising possibility that Hitler did not die in the bunker."
incontestably female.

Spoiler

checkmate

The article does mention the possibility that it could belong to Eva Braun- Hitler's wife.
But then this happens:
"There is no report of Eva Braun having shot herself or having been shot afterwards. It could be anyone. Many people were killed around the bunker area."

"Sixty-four years later, the world is still in the dark about what really happened in Hitler's bunker on 30 April 1945."

-Uki Goñi is author of The Real Odessa (Granta), about the escape of Nazi war criminals from Europe




Also, didn't the recent NASA Pluto pictures confirm that the Nazis built a bunker on Pluto?
If you look closely, you can see Hitler and Jimi Hendrix.

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[minamoto]

----The Only Forensic Evidence Of Hitler's Suicide Was Proven To Be Fake In 2009

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From the article:
"But the skull fragment the Russians dug up outside the Führerbunker in 1946 could never have belonged to Hitler. The skull DNA was incontestably female. The only positive physical proof that Hitler had shot himself had suddenly been rendered worthless. The result is a mystery reopened and, for conspiracy theorists the tantalising possibility that Hitler did not die in the bunker."
incontestably female.

Spoiler

checkmate

The article does mention the possibility that it could belong to Eva Braun- Hitler's wife.
But then this happens:
"There is no report of Eva Braun having shot herself or having been shot afterwards. It could be anyone. Many people were killed around the bunker area."

"Sixty-four years later, the world is still in the dark about what really happened in Hitler's bunker on 30 April 1945."

-Uki Goñi is author of The Real Odessa (Granta), about the escape of Nazi war criminals from Europe




Also, didn't the recent NASA Pluto pictures confirm that the Nazis built a bunker on Pluto?
If you look closely, you can see Hitler and Jimi Hendrix.

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

you are not allowed to contradict Caliburn...Remember?...his Opinions are always the truth!

 

[ultraChalk]

This is a troll thread.

Hate when people joke about glorifying Hitler just because some other idiots do it on the internet. He's nobody to be proud of.

 

[Caliburn]

RedBold : Honestly...you should'nt have said that...i don't even know how to reply to this

-i feel like you are forcing your opinions on me making it seem like its the truth...but nvm like wise itachi Uchiha says "ONE'S TRUTH IS ANOTHER'S ILLUSION"

-when i said some comments disprove your opinion..i didn't mean exactly immortality,but i meant other theories such as the FBI one provided by a member.....

-History is full of lies...one can simply fake his death and cheat history...if soul and spirituality exists, then cave creatures might exist!

Oh I say more: or you behave and stop with crap like this or I'll kick you out of this section and potentially the forum. You seem to have sucked up easily the comment that Hitler's immortal and was kidnapped by cave creatures, but this is too hard for you to take in?

Let me make it obvious. You just subjectively decided that one research is true, while another similar one is not while providing the comment that cave creatures exist because of soul and spirituality. The last statement invalidates your first statement, hence my original warning as you are screwing around. You can't even apprehend what you are saying yourself, let alone you understand others.

RdBold : evidences say that the possibilities of Elvis being still alive are 5%....but the possibility of hitler being stil alive(at least till 90') is 80%.......

"Hitler is immortal you say? I believe you despite the fact it's completely baseless and impossible."

"Hitler got kidnapped by cave-goblins you say? I believe you, despite the fact that no such things exist."

"Hitler has 80% of still being alive? Yes highly possible despite the fact that I just completely made up that number or found it God's knows where and that we are talking about one of the most recognized, most hated and haunted persons in the history of mankind who already was in not particular good health in 1945 is sooooooo true."

"Historical research you say done by real historians? Screw that, not possible".

=/

Really ?

The fact that you just said that and nobody Reported the hell outta you means only 1 thing. You and your merry band of virtual tyrants have successfully broken the poor naive members of this forum.

With that one comment you just proved what selfserving egoistic tyrants you and your fellow Adminstrators are. Enforcing your opinions on others? and threatning to infract them? lol I dont think Ive ever encountered a forum with a more horrid leadership.

I only regret wasting my time appealing to the staff all that time ago, when clearly you are all llunatics.

But like any other real Tyranny, the people are also to blame, for standing aside and taking shit from those few insane individuals. That is because most of the members are as twisted and sadistic as you. Afterall, you were chosen for the members, from among the members.

Do yourself a favor. Go out once in a while, get some fresh air, you might just realize whats been escaping your strained mind. That you are just a nerd with a toolbox.

Veritas

Who is enforcing what exactly? The image you just described I can only see as you providing a reflection of yourself as you are forcing down people's throats here your own highly subjective opinions while making complete baseless assumptions.

Did I say that he had to believe me? Did I specifically said that what I wrote was 100% true? Did I even say that this was my opinion? No. You and he just assumed all of that so that you just could find pitiful excuses to enforce your own highly subjective view of a tyrannical staff and annoy them.

You just did exactly all the things you just described. "Members do not take shit from, staff however you will take all our shit, all our insults and every lie we can make up as despite the fact I have no clue about how much time you go people go out, I highly subjective going to assume you rarely go so that I can insult you with it while acting like a complete hypocrite in the thread of a troll you tried to warn as that's your job."

I merely stated what the consequences will be if he does not take his own thread seriously as it became extremely obvious from his reply that the point of this thread was not to have a serious discussion, but to screw around. The OP subjectively and completely baseless picking out which posts can be considered true and which not, the complete opposite of having a serious discussion, is acceptable, but saying he needs to be serious, is not. Who is trying to break whom's naivety here? For so far the OP naivety can be broken as that's pretty hard for someone who immediately believes Hitler's immortal, you're the one who is doing the most damage to that poor, naive guy.

----The Only Forensic Evidence Of Hitler's Suicide Was Proven To Be Fake In 2009

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From the article:
"But the skull fragment the Russians dug up outside the Führerbunker in 1946 could never have belonged to Hitler. The skull DNA was incontestably female. The only positive physical proof that Hitler had shot himself had suddenly been rendered worthless. The result is a mystery reopened and, for conspiracy theorists the tantalising possibility that Hitler did not die in the bunker."
incontestably female.

Spoiler

checkmate

The article does mention the possibility that it could belong to Eva Braun- Hitler's wife.
But then this happens:
"There is no report of Eva Braun having shot herself or having been shot afterwards. It could be anyone. Many people were killed around the bunker area."

"Sixty-four years later, the world is still in the dark about what really happened in Hitler's bunker on 30 April 1945."

-Uki Goñi is author of The Real Odessa (Granta), about the escape of Nazi war criminals from Europe




Also, didn't the recent NASA Pluto pictures confirm that the Nazis built a bunker on Pluto?
If you look closely, you can see Hitler and Jimi Hendrix.

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You must be registered for see links

I didn't even say anything about his skull. I was talking about his teeth and based upon your pictures, that one doesn't have any. Who says we are even talking about the same object here? I admit I saw that documentary only once and it was a few years ago, so I really do not remember much about it, but I never claimed I did nor that what I was saying was absolute truth. I just wanted to partake in this discussion and add what I remembered. It's very plausible that what I saw is from a more recent date than the article you just provided, meaning we are talking about two different things. After all most historical studies have an expiration date, especially when it concerns WW II, which is one of the most popular topics out there. More and more sources are being discovered and investigated, which leads to the confirmation, nuancing or abolishment of older studies. This counts double from stuff the Russians have as only recently their sources have become more and more public so that they could be investigated. That's how it works.

My issue was simply that the OP is selectively picking out posts here just so that he could screw around. He accepts the most baseless, retarded stuff as facts, but then goes claiming that historical studies he knows nothing about are false?

you are not allowed to contradict Caliburn...Remember?...his Opinions are always the truth!

Whenever did I even say that that was my opinion? Did I say "this is what I believe and thus you are all forced to believe it likewise"? I merely provided a summary of a documentary I saw a few years ago on National Geographic as input for this thread as that's the only thing I could remember specifically about Hitler's death. If someone had said that he has seen the same documentary, but that things were differently, I would have said that that is very plausible. But based upon your not so very clever reaction on my post it came to my intention that you had no intention of discussing this topic seriously and I do not take kindly to people who screw around in this section and even less when it involves history.


~Thread closed as the OP doesn't seem to have any intention whatsoever, nor does he seem to ever had any, to discuss this seriously and just wanted to dweeb with Hitler. One more thread like this and I kick you out of this section.