something about FTG...

[AGoodBoy]

I'm a minato Fan and all, and I keep seeing people claim Tobirama and Minato can "Mark the landscape" with markings to FTG to. Now, IMO, that's bullshit and makes no sense. FTG seals are like other seals and should require that the target have chakra (which the seal ties to) or that the target be special chakra absorbing paper(FTG kunai's, Seal scrolls, etc.).

I'm not going to stand up here and claim I know everything about minato. I don't study him up as much as people like Bogard, but can someone clarify if this is bullshit, or if this has actually been supported anywhere In the manga. I can't remember ever seeing anything remotely close to anyone placing any form of seal on a non-chakra based entity or special paper.

 

[-immortal-]

yeah. those people make no sense

 

[AlphaScythian]

I guess not, why would he waste kunai near that ocean if he could just mark a rock?

 

[Boston Rob]

yeah. those people make no sense

Bogard makes no sense

 

[AGoodBoy]

I guess not, why would he waste kunai near that ocean if he could just mark a rock?

Exactly. I don't know when this nonsense became popular. The first time I ever saw it was when Tobirama fans tried hard to give him some relevance. Now this nonsensical cancer is spreading to minato ruining his character even more after most people already hate him for how broken FTG already is.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

I don't get your question. Are you trying to say that Minato and Tobirama can't produce FTG tags via their own bodies? Or that they require a pre-made seal to do it?

The answer should be obvious on that case.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Exactly. I don't know when this nonsense became popular. The first time I ever saw it was when Tobirama fans tried hard to give him some relevance. Now this nonsensical cancer is spreading to minato ruining his character even more after most people already hate him for how broken FTG already is.

FTG isnt broken. Most minato fans are

 

[Penguin]

Are you trying to claim Tobirama or Minato cannot mark the land scape? The reason Minato uses kunai is because he doesn't need to physically touch the place if he can just throw a FTG kunai there instead. Tobirama would rather use Kage Bunshin and mark them. But they could in fact mark the ground.

 

[Europa]

The seals don't need chakra to be linked to. Take the kunai for example.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I don't get your question. Are you trying to say that Minato and Tobirama can't produce FTG tags via their own bodies? Or that they require a pre-made seal to do it?

The answer should be obvious on that case.

What? No, I'm saying that can't slap a seal on a random rock or tree or leaf.

They can only do that on special paper made to hold chakra (like seal scrolls) or on other people who actually have chakra... hence the seal actually seals onto a source of chakra.

FTG isnt broken. Most minato fans are

FTG is actually as broken as Kamui if i listed everything about it. It's actually idiotic.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Are you trying to claim Tobirama or Minato cannot mark the land scape? The reason Minato uses kunai is because he doesn't need to physically touch the place if he can just throw a FTG kunai there instead. Tobirama would rather use Kage Bunshin and mark them. But they could in fact mark the ground.

There's no proof for this like I said. Do you have any manga scan of this?

The seals don't need chakra to be linked to. Take the kunai for example.

The seals aren't on the kunai. They're on special yellow paper. My point still stands... unless someone can provide a scan with any form of seal being placed on a stone.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Are they even 'seals' in the first place..? Some manga translates refer to them as 'markings' and 'formulas' rather then seals. Though, I don't have access to Viz so I'm not even sure. But it doesn't make much sense to call them seals, imo, as they're not sealing anything.

 

[AlphaScythian]

FTG is actually as broken as Kamui if i listed everything about it. It's actually idiotic.

FTG is done with kunais. It weaknes is kunais. Minato is perfectly balanced for FTG, he doesnt have defense, he doesnt have strong offence, he's very adaptable for the plot thou (like for instance Bee has a mark on him and minato had random kunai at the ocean, yet fans came up with such load of BS about his foot speed =D)

There's no proof for this like I said. Do you have any manga scan of this?
The seals aren't on the kunai. They're on special yellow paper. My point still stands... unless someone can provide a scan with any form of seal being placed on a stone.

There arent any, even at house minato used kunais not a formula on the wall. The rumor originated from that crawling marking minato used at kakashi chronicles.

 

[Lay]

I think it does. When he came to take Kushina. He didn't mark anything with chakra

 

[AGoodBoy]

Are they even 'seals' in the first place..? Some manga translates refer to them as 'markings' and 'formulas' rather then seals. Though, I don't have access to Viz so I'm not even sure. But it doesn't make much sense to call them seals, imo, as they're not sealing anything.

You know how when you create a shadow clone, the original's chakra is linked to every clone? Well, it's possible that the seals seal a piece of the users chakra onto special material that can actually hold chakra. Then, with whatever thought or mechanism, they teleport to that source of chakra, because it's now linked to them like shadow clones are linked to the original. The fact they never disappear make them seem more like a seal since seals can only be removed by undoing the seal, whereas markings wear off... Take summoning jutsu, for example, the markings they create on the ground near instantly wear off once the beast is summoned.

FTG is done with kunais. It weaknes is kunais. Minato is perfectly balanced for FTG, he doesnt have defense, he doesnt have strong offence, he's very adaptable for the plot thou (like for instance Bee has a mark on him and minato had random kunai at the ocean, yet fans came up with such load of BS about his foot speed =D)
There arent any, even at house minato used kunais not a formula on the wall. The rumor originated from that crawling marking minato used at kakashi chronicles.

I see what you're trying to say, but you need to remember those seals never disappear, so he's always got somewhere in NV to teleport. He'd never ever ever be in danger. Take that ocean thing you said, even if someone destroyed all the seals on the battlefield, he could still retreat to that island for safety. If he marked his opponent, the island essentially becomes his kamui dimension. He can pop back and forth and troll like obito... All minato really needs to do is drop kunai's on the battlefield and he can replicate kamui trolling... Of course this is all hypothetical since it'd break the story like shit if minato were to do that... Same way it would break the story if obito pulled out hashi level mokuton and nagato level rinnegan techs alongside kamui.

What crawling marking?

I think it does. When he came to take Kushina. He didn't mark anything with chakra

What? You do know that the seal he used on kushina's stomach, to seal kyuubi, had the FTG seal embedded in it right?

 

[AlphaScythian]

I think it does. When he came to take Kushina. He didn't mark anything with chakra

I would think kushina had a FTG mark on her ass XD (for more then just plot reasons)

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

What? No, I'm saying that can't slap a seal on a random rock or tree or leaf.

They can only do that on special paper made to hold chakra (like seal scrolls) or on other people who actually have chakra... hence the seal actually seals onto a source of chakra.


FTG is actually as broken as Kamui if i listed everything about it. It's actually idiotic.

Well then shouldn't it be obvious that they can? Tobirama teleported Minato, and co to a location with nothing but the dirt beneath their feet.

 

[Tobby17]

Well then how has Tobirama been teleporting??, except ofcourse he can teleport without seals, he doesn't have kunais yet he teleports with Obito

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So if he didn't place his seal somewhere, how did he teleport with Obito??

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He uses FTG to get Minato, Hiruzen Emma and Naruto out of danger, so if he didn't have a seal placed where he took them to, how did he do it??

so it's either Tobirama can place marks on objects, or he can use FTG without seals.. I think the answer is quite obvious

 

[AlphaScythian]

Well then shouldn't it be obvious that they can? Tobirama teleported Minato, and co to a location with nothing but the dirt beneath their feet.

What are you talking about?

 

[AGoodBoy]

Well then shouldn't it be obvious that they can? Tobirama teleported Minato, and co to a location with nothing but the dirt beneath their feet.

which location? You mean this

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It was already debated that it was minato using the FTG here. Tobirama's role was just to link them all to minato since you can't touch 2 people with 1 hand. The fact that they teleported infront sasuke(where minato teleported them in the first place) solidifies this. You'll probably bbring up the scan of minato saying he can't FTG to minato, but that's because naruto was never marked, and shinju drained all his Kyuubi chakra, the same Kyuubi chakra which was acting as a link for minato - hence minato no longer had his chakra linked to him to teleport him.

This isn't really proof...

@tobby17: you do know that tobirama marked obito 5 chapters prior, right...? You do also know that it was a clone holding that orb and the clone suicided, right...?