Someone is Using Obito's Body really...

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Do guys not see how lame that is. Someone having his eye is one thing, but his whole face/body as well. That is kind of far-fetched as a plot don't you think.
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They're trying to figure any BS way that they could not be wrong about Tobi being Obito. It's probably worse than all the crap where 'maybe so and so had a brother', like really, that'd be the most BS of all, a brother that was never mentioned.
 

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Well as of right now we know next to nothing on the current situation, and tbh it may not be Obito, so I think you're jumping the gun here, at least wait for Kishi to explain before we assume the timeline has gone to $HIT
 

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Whatever it is at the end ..

I'm sure that Orochimaru's Immortality jutsus has definitely something to do with Tobi .


just like he had a deal with Danzo .., Oro. seems to be behind everything .


+ It was shown many times that Oro. knows Tobi (I can show you panels from the manga for proof if you need it) .
 
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Do guys not see how lame that is. Someone having his eye is one thing, but his whole face/body as well. That is kind of far-fetched as a plot don't you think.
:shrug:
No thats obito..... But as everyone knows that obito din't had like a crappy life or anything up until he got crushed in that bolder, meaning there is no dam reason for him to be evil like this. Even the wiki is somewhat confused on why is obito is doing this.
 

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Ok, so here are MY BELIEFS in regard to the whole Tobi id theories (I will quote myself from other threads).

Why he is Tobi, but is not Tobi and could be Izuna.

What my questions/remarks are:

1. Why the indirect hate towards the whole Senju clan that Tobi has shown unless being a very old character?

2. Why Kishi would write the few sentences as this: "Obito?" If it would've been a 100% sure it would've been a full stop or a exclamation mark?

Question mark is used in connection with an 100% uncomplete information, it means there is a missing data there.

If it would've been a full stop it would've represented an undenied piece of evidence. Still Kishi used a question mark meaning the evidence is not 100% accurate/missing data.

3. As well as the phrase construction "It has been confirmed: his name is Obito!"

There Kishi confirms things, it gives us the information that the name is Obito, not the whole person. If it would've been a 100% certain information that Tobi is Obito as a whole, it wouldn't have been necessary for Kishi to add an explanatory note, yet he did it to bring an explanatory note about the name being Obito.

So until isn't 100% sure that Tobi is Obito, until Tobi stated himself, yes, I am Tobi, even though it's a 0.01% chances of being someone else, I am doubting this as it still leaves open possibilities.

It would have been logical for Kishi to mislead to add all those details that took to Obito in order to mess with our minds.

My guess is that it is his body, but there is someone else in there, meaning the counsciousness/soul of another person.

Or it is his consciousness but another body very similar to Tobi's.
True that you were very close.
You were actually very accurate on the indicative details that would make us believing that actually, yes, Tobi is Obito or the timeline of the events having some connection with the timeline of the events of Obito's ones.

He could even play with our mind making Tobi to state that he was Obito which again would be an 100% that he would be Obito. But we know that Kishi made this character to be a bit of a lier. What if in a singular panel, later on, when he would be by himself or with Zetsu/Madara, he will state something like "I told them I am Obito in order to play with their minds?" or something very similar to that. Wouldn't that be a second mind-f*ck (excuse my language) given to us by Kishi?

So until Kishimoto comes with an undeniable proof that he is indeed Obito, that still leaves open possibilities, as I've stated before.

What if is indeed his mind and body, but actually somewhere in the back there is God knows what whose using Tobi's counsciousness with a jutsu or something like that? What if it is his body that gave a full access to his memories but someone else is there. Like in Queen of the Damned movie (a vampire one) where when you bit someone and had his blood you had full access to his memories. Body includes the brain, the brain stores memories.

The perfect match to play with someone's mind.

Also, something to note, that rumor who was viral these days on the internet would pretty much fit the whole scenario of Tobi = Obito but is not actually Obito, is Izuna.

Because if you remember, it was said that it was indeed, Izuna BUT he will bring a lot of suffer thus implying the fact that looking like Obito will mind-blow Kakashi and everyone else who once knew Obito.

Also that was supposed to be an unleaked information by someone close to Kishimoto that instantly would blow-away the whole impact on the fanbase. But, Kishi as being smart (hope he is because of not... I don't know what to say U_U) made us once again fall into astonishment, as we move our beliefs regarding the rumor.

Than, he comes again later on (still have to see when) and show us Tobi as being Izuna and once again we will be mind-blown. So he got the impact he wanted in the first place EVEN THOUGH the information was leaked.

Nonetheless, we have to wait.
Yes, he had been exposed, but why do I have the feeling that he wanted to be exposed? He is portrayed as a character who wants to play with people's mind and use undeniable true facts twisted to his own advantage.

And here we have to take into consideration the whole Sasuke story.
Indeed, he told Sasuke what happened to Itachi but he did it that way, that would suit his preferences.

Same things could happen with Kakashi as well. Using undeniable facts to his own benefit although they differ in perspective.

If it's not Obito and is Izuna, the whole information he got after the timeline of his events would be easily explained thanks to Zetsu. But to explain Obito's timeline events with what happens now, is a lot harder.
The expose thing I was reffering about him wanted to be exposed when he adressed to Kakashi/Gai.
That would be from where his mind-twisting plan starts. :)
 

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I think people need to just accept that it is Obito. It says at the end of the chapter "It's finally revealed. His name is Obito!" What more do u want? Just accept that you were wrong move on. Kishi has planned this forever now. He has to have a plan. As for the whole "how the f**k is it obito" thing just wait one more week until chap 600 which will no doubt b the "tell all" chapter. It's obito and thats it.
 

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This chapter seems to tell us that it is not Obito's mind in this body.

Obito was heedless , air-headed , late , open-handed ( he had a good heart ).
Tobi is reflexive , manipulative , punctillous , he lacks feelings.

But WHO/HOW/WHY takes his body if it is not obito's mind?
 
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