Some misconceptions about sasuke's s/t

[iNotorious]

Here are somethings people assume about sasuke's s/t but are incorrect about:

1. Sasuke s/t is short range- well not many people think this but some do and this doesnt make sense because almost all the time sasuke used his s/t, it was either mid ranged or far ranged, so just because it's limited(like all techs aside from ftg, kamui, and summoning) doesnt mean its distance has to be small

2.Sasuke s/t isnt instant- even though i agree that sasuke hasnt called it instant yet, if you look at how he defined it, it has to be instant. Space is something that is all around us and it's impossible to remove space from a place, if sasuke's eye's shift(or swap) space, it has to be instant if not what would be occupying the space he shifted?

3.Sasuke cooldown means he's s/t is useless- few people seem to forget that sasuke's s/t cooldown isnt long and we cant tell how long he can use it before the cooldown, so I think we should wait for more explaination before we jump to conclusion on his s/t cooldown time

Do you agree or disagree? if you disagree, please i'll like it if you give your reason why
You can be a hater or a fanboy as long as you use logic while being either
You can also add more information if you please

thanks

Nobody know how long he has to wait to use his S/T but i can tell you it's not like 5 seconds, in my opinion like 20 seconds..

 

[riley freeman]

1. That looks about 50 feet distance. Of course, a manga is never quite clear or good proof, but I'd say the teleportation is within a modest distance.
2. Well those people would be wrong so let them be wrong. When Sasuke "moves" he moves instantly. What comes before and after that, i.e. focusing on his destination and attacking on arrival, aren't instant though, but given Sasuke's speed, they might as well be for weaklings.
3. True, except for maybe FTG. That really doesn't seem to have much of a downside if at all.

1. Agreed, so we cant really tell its distance but it has to be up to 60 at most
2.Agreed
3.It does, I think dhoh made a thread about it

Its cool but it is rather useless against every character that is on and above sasukes level. That's is why people talk down on it. Naruto Madara and kaguya could all render sasukes shift jutsu useless and I'll tell you why. Two things..understanding the jutsu and having the reaction time to evade the attack after the swap. All the characters I listened have that.

Now people like to say that sasuke was owning Madara why did I list him. Madara was used as a tool to show off sasukes new jutsu. It means nothing if the strikes on Madara were ineffective. None of them critical blows and once Madara started to realize how sasuke jutsu works he started countering it accordingly starting with switching with his limbo clone a underrated speed feat then getting out of range.

Then you throw in the cool down time. Now he has to spam susanoo until it's ready again. Naruto and kaguyas sensing abilities are on a totally different level. Naruto immediately sensed sasuke when he swapped with his sword and in the recent chapter kaguya sensed him and got the hell out the way.

All in all the jutsu is good. He destroys every shinobi below god tier with it(he destroys most without it) but against current enemies it's useless.

It wasnt useless when he cut madara, or teleported madara, or even kaguya, it's only useless against immortals(which are the people he is fighting right now)

If madara wasnt immortal, do you honestly think he would still be alive?

Naruto cannot sense the swap, if he could, why did he think it was sasuke that saved sakura last chapter? also, kaguya sensing didnt save her when he teleported her

It's still useful, it's just that kaguya and madara are also s/t users( madara instantly switched places with his clones) and when fighting a fellow s/t user, minato stated it is the fastest person to react that wins( and kaguya reaction time>>sasuke's)

 

[Migster257]

1. It's not short ranged, look at this scan :

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and he didnt swap

2. His eyes can see through solid objects and a bandage is no exception

3. Agreed

1. That's still fairly short compared to other S/T Jutsu. That was my point, in S/T standard, it's short.

2. How can his eyes see through solid objects? When has Sharingan been able to do that? Isn't that only Byakugan?

 

[riley freeman]

1. That's still fairly short compared to other S/T Jutsu. That was my point, in S/T standard, it's short.

2. How can his eyes see through solid objects? When has Sharingan been able to do that? Isn't that only Byakugan?

1. Agreed, that is its weakness

2. Sasuke saw zetsu with a bandage on, plus he saw deidara bomb underground, plus in the cave where he fought kabuto with itachi, there is a scan were he and itachi saw through rocks

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

1. It is short range when he's just teleporting himself. The range is extended if he focus on something to replace himself with.
2. The travel is instant, using the jutsu isn't. Sasuke has to focus on where he goes first and then performs the jutsu.
3. Calling Sasuke's jutsu useless would be moronic, but by comparison to Kamui and FTG, it kind of is because the cool down is a massive hamstring.

Why didn't the thread end here?

 

[riley freeman]

Why didn't the thread end here?

I've already explained why

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

I've already explained why

It's mid range, needs chakra build up, 3 times used then 2 min cool down.(not accurate)

Why keep adding on? We've seen it for 5+ chapters.

 

[riley freeman]

It's mid range, needs chakra build up, 3 times used then 2 min cool down.(not accurate)

Why keep adding on? We've seen it for 5+ chapters.

long with swapping, no it doesnt, 2 min cool down is really not close to accurate

I dont get your point

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

long with swapping, no it doesnt, 2 min cool down is really not close to accurate

I dont get your point

What's the point to make thread number who knows how much about trying to explain the tech?

There's been better threads with scans and manga proof that shows a greater understanding of the tech.

No point to make this repeat.

But hey. Do what you want.

 

[riley freeman]

What's the point to make thread number who knows how much about trying to explain the tech?

There's been better threads with scans and manga proof that shows a greater understanding of the tech.

No point to make this repeat.

But hey. Do what you want.

Thats my point, people are assuming things when they dont know the full story

So?? show me one please

Please, you should have sent a vm if you are annoyed that alot of people have made this thread not attack me thank you

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Thats my point, people are assuming things when they dont know the full story

So?? show me one please

Please, you should have sent a vm if you are annoyed that alot of people have made this thread not attack me thank you

Use the search bar,

And the thing is, sasuke haters will down play tf outta sasuke's tech , and sasuke fans would overrate it.

We don't know the full mechanics except that it has a distance and a cool down.

 

[riley freeman]

Use the search bar,

And the thing is, sasuke haters will down play tf outta sasuke's tech , and sasuke fans would overrate it.

We don't know the full mechanics except that it has a distance and a cool down.

I did use the search bar and i didnt see any, check if you want

Agreed

Thats true, we have to wait a little more before judging

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

I did use the search bar and i didnt see any, check if you want

Agreed

Thats true, we have to wait a little more before judging

Exactly, the tech itself is OP, look how he did madara.

He rapes everyone under God tier imo. Except maybe prime kakashi.

 

[riley freeman]

Exactly, the tech itself is OP, look how he did madara.

He rapes everyone under God tier imo. Except maybe prime kakashi.

Agreed, only sage level opponents( naruto, madara, kaguya, maybe dmskakashi, BSM Minato) can counter it

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Agreed, only sage level opponents( naruto, madara, kaguya, maybe dmskakashi, BSM Minato) can counter it

Yup that sums it up. And he has a PS that can slice something in half as large as mountain ranges.

It's like people truly don't understand how strong sasuke is, they get blinded because he's losing to the strongest character.

Just like how madara got trolled by BZ, he completed infinite Tsukuyomi but everyone was like so what.

That's just how it is sometimes.