[Discussion] Some "Conspiracy Theories" That Slowly But Surely Became The Truth

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Why do we always believe, without consideration, what is presented to us through mainstream sources? Why do we hold it to be true, without question? Why is it so common for many of us to not even acknowledge, listen, or look at evidence which runs counter to the accepted ideology? To ignore available information which presents an alternative to what is so commonly believed by many – or what we ourselves believe can place the human race in a very vulnerable, gullible state? Even if there is an overwhelming amount of evidence, many find it easy to dismiss.
Below is a list of events and phenomena which are or have been considered “conspiracy theories” by the general population, all of which can be backed up by an impressive amount of research and testimonies from experts in their respective fields.

It’s unfortunate that our world has been riddled with lies, misinformation, and fraud. It’s no secret that if you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.

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Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.” – Albert Einstein


These are in no particular order, as they are all significant in their own right.

The Black Budget
Prior to Edward Snowden (the former NSA employee who leaked classified information), if you told somebody you thought there existed what seems to be a separate civilization – a part of humanity that broke off in secret, and is more advanced than the mainstream academic/scientific/technical world – there is absolutely no doubt you would have been brushed off as a crazy conspiracy theorist.

But when Snowden leaked the very first documentation proving the existence of clandestine black budget operations, that all changed. Despite these recent leaks, many are still unaware of the black budget world, and the fact that it had been investigated and talked about before these leaks.

9/11
The tragedy that unfolded on September 11th, 2001 was horrific. To this day and despite the fact that many of the victims’ families themselves question the events of that day, many still consider anyone suspicious of 9/11 to be a conspiracy theorist. It’s important to mention that the mainstream media has played a large part in pushing this idea, that anybody who questions what happened on that day is “nuts.”

According to the latest polls, more than 150 million people (in America alone) do not believe the official explanation given to them by their government when it comes to 9/11, and the same amount actually suspect a controlled demolition of World Trade Centre building 7. Think about that for a moment.

A quick Google search of polls regarding 9/11 will paint a clear picture for you. People are not stupid, so why is it that so many people believe it was a staged event? It’s because of all of the evidence that has surfaced over the years.

There is a tremendous amount of evidence to support all of these claims, and others, like the fact that the supposed “Al-Qaeda” terrorist group was in fact a creation of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). And yet, many people have a hard time hearing about, let alone thinking about these realities.

Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs)
This is a very big one, and as with 9/11, in the United States alone, at least half of all Americans say that we’re not alone in the universe. Fifty percent of Americans already believe that there is some form of life on other planets, while only seventeen percent think that there is not. A quarter of Americans believe that intelligent extraterrestrial visitors have already come to Earth and have been doing so for a long time.

Why do people believe this? The answer is simple. As former Princeton professor and NASA astronaut Dr. Brian O’Leary remarked, “there is abundant evidence” clearly indicating that there is something going on in our atmosphere and around our planet which, as Mike Gold puts it (Director of Operations For Bigelow Aerospace), deserves serious attention.

The evidence comes in the form of statements made by high ranking military personnel, political personnel, academicians, and more. It also comes in the form of official documents released by dozens of countries officially acknowledging and disclosing the existence of UFOs. That’s not all, in fact, this subject is littered with so much information that it can be overwhelming for one to think about.

Geo-Engineering and Solar Radiation Management Via Stratospheric Spraying
Also known as “chemtrails,” the idea of injecting stratospheric particles into the atmosphere to combat the effects of climate change is very real, and not new.

Dr. Matthew Watson, PhD, a researcher in the department of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol, is one of many scientists who are warning against this practice.

“If we ever deploy these technologies it will be the closest indication yet that we’ve failed as planetary stewards. While it is clear that temperatures could be reduced during deployment, the misstep is considerable. Personally, this stuff terrifies me.” – Dr. Watson

This idea is far from a conspiracy theory,

Some of the candidate particles to spray in the air are:


Sulphate/Sulphuric Acid/Sulphur Dioxide
Titanium dioxide
Silicon Carbide
Calcium Carbonate
Alumina
Silica
Zinc Oxide


But are these programs operational? Well, the weather was modified using these techniques for the Olympic games in China, and if you are an observer of skies and a researcher of geo-engineering, you’ll know that there is a sufficent amount of evidence to suggest that spraying is already occuring.

In recent years there has been a decline in the support for weather modification research, and a tendency to move directly into operational projects.” – World Meteorological Association (source)

Again, this is far from a conspiracy theory, and with all of the information available in the public domain it’s clear that this topic is something that deservers our utmost attention. That being said, as with the other topics, there is still a harsh resistance by the mainstream, who often ridicule this topic, despite all of the information that is out there.

A Small Group Of Elite People And The Corporations They Run Own Everything
Not that long ago, if you were to tell anyone that a small group of people and the corporations they run are in control of all the world’s resources, you would have received some decidedly ‘weird’ looks. Fortunately, thanks to recent global protests like the Occupy Wall Street Movement, more people have become aware of what is known as the “one percent.” That percentage represents the people who have access to the most wealth on the planet.

The same group of elite are in control of our health, finances, education, food, politics, media, and financial industries, and they contribute to the military industrial complex. It’s clear that there are many problems within these industries that affect us on a daily basis.

Water Fluoridation
There is a reason why so many countries and communities around the world have recently stopped the practice of putting fluoride into their drinking water.

We are not talking about naturally occurring fluoride that is already found in water, we are talking about hydrofluorosilicic acid, a toxic industrial waste by-product that governments have been adding to our drinking water for over sixty years.

“If this stuff gets out into the air, it’s a pollutant; if it gets into the river, it’s a pollutant; if it gets into the lake, it’s a pollutant; but if it goes right straight into your drinking water system, it’s not a pollutant. That’s amazing.”– Former VP and Senior Chemist at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Headquarters

In fact, one of the most credible medical journals in the world recently classified it as a neurotoxin.

In point of fact, fluoride causes more human cancer deaths than any other chemical. When you have power you don’t have to tell the truth. That’s a rule that’s been working in this world for generations. There are a great many people who don’t tell the truth when they are in power in administrative positions. Fluoride amounts to public murder on a grand scale. It is some of the most conclusive scientific and biological evidence that I have come across in my 50 years in the field of cancer research.” – Dr. Dean Burk, biochemist, Founder of Biotin, and Former Chief Chemist at the National Cancer Institute of Health

Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)
Few things exemplify more absolutely the fact that we are living in a world of deception, manipulation, and fraudulent science than GMOs. Over the past few years, a number of studies (both independent and peer-reviewed) have emerged which clearly outline why GMOs should not be approved as completely safe for human consumption. Despite this fact, their status has not changed.

The truth of their danger was also demonstrated by the March Against Monsanto, a worldwide protest where millions of people around the world gather every year to peacefully protest the biotech giants.

There is a reason why so many countries around the world have now completely banned GMOs and the pesticides that go with them.

"As part of the process, they portrayed the various concerns as merely the ignorant opinions of misinformed individuals – and derided them as not only unscientific, but anti-science. They then set to work to convince the public and government officials, through the dissemination of false information, that there was an overwhelming expert consensus, based on solid evidence, that GMOs were safe.” – Jane Goodall
 
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There was only 1 thing on this list that is probably true, but extremely over-exaggerated. The black budget. No, they are not thousands of years or millions of years more advanced than everyone else. Don't be stupid.

Oh and the super elite. That one is true(Not even a conspiracy theory, it's factual).

Everything else is simply wrong and you lack the necessary information or understanding to prove the rest. Calling people ignorant because you don't have enough information or understanding to prove your wild theory is stupid. Bring forth your proof and tangible evidence and people will look at it.
 
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Except I've investigated nearly all of those topics and understand their points. They try to pass their theories off as fact with extremely minimal evidence or proof. Just because they say they have proof doesn't make it true. Look at this:



Look, 200 proofs the earth is not spinning or spherical, but flat. So by your logic this theory is correct simply because it has 200 proofs. Meanwhile, if you look at all of the proof, literally every single one of the proofs are wrong simply because they misunderstand what they are even talking about. That's exactly what each of these theories above do(besides 2).
 
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There was only 1 thing on this list that is probably true, but extremely over-exaggerated. The black budget. No, they are not thousands of years or millions of years more advanced than everyone else. Don't be stupid.

Oh and the super elite. That one is true(Not even a conspiracy theory, it's factual).

Everything else is simply wrong and you lack the necessary information or understanding to prove the rest. Calling people ignorant because you don't have enough information or understanding to prove your wild theory is stupid. Bring forth your proof and tangible evidence and people will look at it.
At bold: Can this be any more ironic ._.
 

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At bold: Can this be any more ironic ._.
Except I've investigated nearly all of those topics and understand their points. They try to pass their theories off as fact with extremely minimal evidence or proof. Just because they say they have proof doesn't make it true. Look at this:



Look, 200 proofs the earth is not spinning or spherical, but flat. So by your logic this theory is correct simply because it has 200 proofs. Meanwhile, if you look at all of the proof, literally every single one of the proofs are wrong simply because they misunderstand what they are even talking about. That's exactly what each of these theories above do(besides 2).
I feel a spark between you two. :p

OT: Meh, hate conspiracy theories. >.>
 

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1. The US (if not the world) is controlled by a few rich elites, it is true. It is called Lobbyism, Super PACs, the "Citizens United Act" and "Reagonomics". All of which can be removed if the Citizens United Act is repealed. The top 1% of citizens own more than 40% of the wealth in the US.

2. There is an even smaller chance that we are alone in the universe versus we are not alone in the universe. Several million galaxies housing several billion stars each with several planets orbiting them. There is an astronomically small chance that our planet is the only one that harbors life. Hell, even Europa might harbor bacteria living under the ice shelves in cold liquid water. But that doesn't mean we have cold-hard evidence that we have been visited before. In fact, we don't. You'd be hard-pressed to find evidence for a prior visitation that couldn't be explained by something even more legitimate.

3. 9/11 was orchestrated by a radical Islamic group. You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to not take in video evidence of ****ing planes hitting the towers, a third in the Pentagon, and a fourth crashing into a field.

4. It's HEXAfluorosilicic acid. Secondly, the amount of this in fluoridated water is in "parts per million", not concentrated. Unless you have something to back it up.

5. There is no such thing as chemtrails. You have provided no evidence for chemtrails, while I'm on standby with plenty that there are none. The government is not spraying down chemicals, we stopped doing that after DDT. You are going to be fine, son.

6. No, there isn't a separate civilization several times more advanced than us. Damn, these conspiracy theorists get more cracked up every day.

7. No, there's nothing wrong with GMOs. We have been artificially selecting crops for tens of thousands of years. The only thing GMOs are is a sped up process using genetic recombination. The only thing wrong with this set up is the fact that corporations make a ton of money off it but penalize farmers if they keep seeds (looking at you, Monsanto)

Lets see where you're getting this information from. Collective Evolution, Lunatic Outpost, Spiritual Healing Center, Notey, GOOD CHRIST, THE LUNACY, IT'S SPREADING.
 
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Conspiracy theories are fun to me, but I don't take them seriously.

It's cool that there are a bunch of weirdos trying to make sure they can find any conspiracies. though. If they find a real one, maybe it would do good.
 

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Good thread:)
I agree with all you posted with exception to the Black Budget, but only because I haven't really looked into it. Although I have no doubt there is mind blowing technology out there that we know nothing about. "Coral Castle" in Homestead, Florida is very interesting in terms of technology. Technology like that is probably the tip of the iceberg.

You know the existance of the Bilderberg Group was a Conspiracy Theory for decades, but now they are out in the open.

The biggest contributer in my op as to why we accept most of what Mainstream Media tells us, is due to the Public School system. Its all about taking orders obediently. Accept what the teachers teach, memorize and regurgitate. If you can't do that than your labeled and medicated. By the time most graduate they're fully indoctrinated slaves. "gradual indoctrination=Graduation" ;)
 

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Change the title. It should be "Conspiracy Theories That Slowly But Surely Became Bigger Conspiracies"
interesting asf


1. The US (if not the world) is controlled by a few rich elites, it is true. It is called Lobbyism, Super PACs, the "Citizens United Act" and "Reagonomics". All of which can be removed if the Citizens United Act is repealed. The top 1% of citizens own more than 40% of the wealth in the US.

2. There is an even smaller chance that we are alone in the universe versus we are not alone in the universe. Several million galaxies housing several billion stars each with several planets orbiting them. There is an astronomically small chance that our planet is the only one that harbors life. Hell, even Europa might harbor bacteria living under the ice shelves in cold liquid water. But that doesn't mean we have cold-hard evidence that we have been visited before. In fact, we don't. You'd be hard-pressed to find evidence for a prior visitation that couldn't be explained by something even more legitimate.

3. 9/11 was orchestrated by a radical Islamic group. You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to not take in video evidence of ****ing planes hitting the towers, a third in the Pentagon, and a fourth crashing into a field.

4. It's HEXAfluorosilicic acid. Secondly, the amount of this in fluoridated water is in "parts per million", not concentrated. Unless you have something to back it up.

5. There is no such thing as chemtrails. You have provided no evidence for chemtrails, while I'm on standby with plenty that there are none. The government is not spraying down chemicals, we stopped doing that after DDT. You are going to be fine, son.

6. No, there isn't a separate civilization several times more advanced than us. Damn, these conspiracy theorists get more cracked up every day.

7. No, there's nothing wrong with GMOs. We have been artificially selecting crops for tens of thousands of years. The only thing GMOs are is a sped up process using genetic recombination. The only thing wrong with this set up is the fact that corporations make a ton of money off it but penalize farmers if they keep seeds (looking at you, Monsanto)

Lets see where you're getting this information from. Collective Evolution, Lunatic Outpost, Spiritual Healing Center, Notey, GOOD CHRIST, THE LUNACY, IT'S SPREADING.
Conspiracy theories are fun to me, but I don't take them seriously.

It's cool that there are a bunch of weirdos trying to make sure they can find any conspiracies. though. If they find a real one, maybe it would do good.
The lies come from deep roots.
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1. The US (if not the world) is controlled by a few rich elites, it is true. It is called Lobbyism, Super PACs, the "Citizens United Act" and "Reagonomics". All of which can be removed if the Citizens United Act is repealed. The top 1% of citizens own more than 40% of the wealth in the US.

2. There is an even smaller chance that we are alone in the universe versus we are not alone in the universe. Several million galaxies housing several billion stars each with several planets orbiting them. There is an astronomically small chance that our planet is the only one that harbors life. Hell, even Europa might harbor bacteria living under the ice shelves in cold liquid water. But that doesn't mean we have cold-hard evidence that we have been visited before. In fact, we don't. You'd be hard-pressed to find evidence for a prior visitation that couldn't be explained by something even more legitimate.

3. 9/11 was orchestrated by a radical Islamic group. You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to not take in video evidence of ****ing planes hitting the towers, a third in the Pentagon, and a fourth crashing into a field.

4. It's HEXAfluorosilicic acid. Secondly, the amount of this in fluoridated water is in "parts per million", not concentrated. Unless you have something to back it up.

5. There is no such thing as chemtrails. You have provided no evidence for chemtrails, while I'm on standby with plenty that there are none. The government is not spraying down chemicals, we stopped doing that after DDT. You are going to be fine, son.

6. No, there isn't a separate civilization several times more advanced than us. Damn, these conspiracy theorists get more cracked up every day.

7. No, there's nothing wrong with GMOs. We have been artificially selecting crops for tens of thousands of years. The only thing GMOs are is a sped up process using genetic recombination. The only thing wrong with this set up is the fact that corporations make a ton of money off it but penalize farmers if they keep seeds (looking at you, Monsanto)

Lets see where you're getting this information from. Collective Evolution, Lunatic Outpost, Spiritual Healing Center, Notey, GOOD CHRIST, THE LUNACY, IT'S SPREADING.
Exactly. :shy:


To bothered to waste any energy and type, so here's some soundtrack.
[video=youtube_share;rbBX6aEzEz8]http://youtu.be/rbBX6aEzEz8[/video]
Lmao, waste of a thread.
 

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There was only 1 thing on this list that is probably true, but extremely over-exaggerated. The black budget. No, they are not thousands of years or millions of years more advanced than everyone else. Don't be stupid.

Oh and the super elite. That one is true(Not even a conspiracy theory, it's factual).

Everything else is simply wrong and you lack the necessary information or understanding to prove the rest. Calling people ignorant because you don't have enough information or understanding to prove your wild theory is stupid. Bring forth your proof and tangible evidence and people will look at it.
the chem trails is legit true. if you don't believe it just look at planes flying from different countries. if you say that it's just contrail, then why does it not disappear after a few minutes instead of lasting hours.
 
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1. The US (if not the world) is controlled by a few rich elites, it is true. It is called Lobbyism, Super PACs, the "Citizens United Act" and "Reagonomics". All of which can be removed if the Citizens United Act is repealed. The top 1% of citizens own more than 40% of the wealth in the US.

2. There is an even smaller chance that we are alone in the universe versus we are not alone in the universe. Several million galaxies housing several billion stars each with several planets orbiting them. There is an astronomically small chance that our planet is the only one that harbors life. Hell, even Europa might harbor bacteria living under the ice shelves in cold liquid water. But that doesn't mean we have cold-hard evidence that we have been visited before. In fact, we don't. You'd be hard-pressed to find evidence for a prior visitation that couldn't be explained by something even more legitimate.

3. 9/11 was orchestrated by a radical Islamic group. You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to not take in video evidence of ****ing planes hitting the towers, a third in the Pentagon, and a fourth crashing into a field.

4. It's HEXAfluorosilicic acid. Secondly, the amount of this in fluoridated water is in "parts per million", not concentrated. Unless you have something to back it up.

5. There is no such thing as chemtrails. You have provided no evidence for chemtrails, while I'm on standby with plenty that there are none. The government is not spraying down chemicals, we stopped doing that after DDT. You are going to be fine, son.

6. No, there isn't a separate civilization several times more advanced than us. Damn, these conspiracy theorists get more cracked up every day.

7. No, there's nothing wrong with GMOs. We have been artificially selecting crops for tens of thousands of years. The only thing GMOs are is a sped up process using genetic recombination. The only thing wrong with this set up is the fact that corporations make a ton of money off it but penalize farmers if they keep seeds (looking at you, Monsanto)

Lets see where you're getting this information from. Collective Evolution, Lunatic Outpost, Spiritual Healing Center, Notey, GOOD CHRIST, THE LUNACY, IT'S SPREADING.
though some of these conspiracies are just misunderstanding , some are legit. don't become a sheep and be led that everything the shills say portray as fact.
 

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the chem trails is legit true. if you don't believe it just look at planes flying from different countries. if you say that it's just contrail, then why does it not disappear after a few minutes instead of lasting hours.
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I know it's tedious to research subjects, but sometimes, it's really not that hard, and you actually get to learn interesting things.

though some of these conspiracies are just misunderstanding , some are legit. don't become a sheep and be led that everything the shills say portray as fact.
This is coming from someone who doesn't research the subjects he's talking about. It's troubling to have to do the work for two people instead of just myself. Is it really that hard to look up information from a credible source? A study that records data and draws conclusions from it?
 
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I know it's tedious to research subjects, but sometimes, it's really not that hard, and you actually get to learn interesting things.



This is coming from someone who doesn't research the subjects he's talking about. It's troubling to have to do the work for two people instead of just myself. Is it really that hard to look up information from a credible source? A study that records data and draws conclusions from it?
Yeah, they'd do this, but from fear of being called a sheep by their peers they tend to speak on things they wildly misunderstand.
 

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Yeah, they'd do this, but from fear of being called a sheep by their peers they tend to speak on things they wildly misunderstand.
It's shocking. This is one of the multiple reasons why the other countries are beating us. Does he fail his science classes in school because it doesn't coincide with his worldview?
 
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