'SOLOKING' a fan-fav term in a manga about Unity

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So you are saying people don't understand Naruto cus they obsess with who is the strongest char? So Kishi failed cus he didn't make Naruto the strongest?
Or 'the coolest' because that's what his demographic turned out to favour. I only take issue with the fans who obsess over who's the strongest and that's it, letting that define the series for them.

But that's for you to decide, either Kishi 'failed cus...' or his general audience failed to grasp the theme because they refuse to engage with the story.
 
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I really don't see the issue with it, it's like getting irritated because people dont like naruto(the manga/anime) for the reasons you do, or analyze it as much. If people just want to like it because they wanna see the next cool thing, or the next fight, or the next big explosion, I don't see how it affects you in any way
 
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I really don't see the issue with it, it's like getting irritated because people dont like naruto(the manga/anime) for the reasons you do, or analyze it as much. If people just want to like it because they wanna see the next cool thing, or the next fight, or the next big explosion, I don't see how it affects you in any way
Doesn't have to affect us for the base to question these things. I genuinely feel like Naruto grew out of it's audience with a few late-game Shippuden concepts or got matched with the wrong one. When the villain-generating clan are all people talk about or the most recurring fan-fav term on this site is the opposite of the entire point of the series, somethings happened there. Let's discuss that.
 

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Doesn't have to affect us for the base to question these things. I genuinely feel like Naruto grew out of it's audience with a few late-game Shippuden concepts or got matched with the wrong one. When the villain-generating clan are all people talk about or the most recurring fan-fav term on this site is the opposite of the entire point of the series, somethings happened there. Let's discuss that.
Your reaching tho aren't you? I get that there's things introduced at the end that where rushed and/or alienating but in the end the concept of unity over non still applied, even then if that was your issue why not title the thread that? Instead your just kinda making it seem like the term solo king really bugs you...
 

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why not title the thread that? Instead your just kinda making it seem like the term solo king really bugs you...
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The thread isn't about the word soloking but it does rather sum up everything i'm saying, no? (btw that gif is awesome and is making me want to binge-watch all of UBW during finals)
 

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People call me out on not saying the Japanese fictional words correctly constantly.

Chav-British accent and Japanese enunciation sound ridiculous together haha
That's true. They'll get used to it though. Japanese words tend to be difficult at times, and no one can blame you if it's not your native tongue.

Could you say it's difficult pronouncing Japanese words?
 

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That's true. They'll get used to it though. Japanese words tend to be difficult at times, and no one can blame you if it's not your native tongue.

Could you say it's difficult pronouncing Japanese words?
No I know them and enjoy saying them, but it just sounds ridiculous and weeb-ish as a Brit so I don't like to get too hung up on fictional words haha :')

The amount of people who get pissed at 'Muhd-ah-rah Yoo-chi-ha' is funny
 

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The thread isn't about the word soloking but it does rather sum up everything i'm saying, no? (btw that gif is awesome and is making me want to binge-watch all of UBW during finals)
Fair enough, I'm still in the belief that all fans don't like the same thing for the same reasons, even if some of those reasons are straight f cking ridiculous. An yea ubw is one of my favs, I thought it blew the first stay night out the water, I still watch parts on the regular
 
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Fair enough, I'm still in the belief that all fans don't like the same thing for the same reasons, even if some of those reasons are straight f cking ridiculous. An yea ubw is one of my favs, I thought it blew the first stay night out the water, I still watch parts on the regular
Still kicking myself for buying the expensive Fate Zero on bluray instead of UBW. Hugely prefer it.
 

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Oh it's always been about the fights and who is the bigger power fantasy cooler soloking. I see Naruto as the exact same as Marvel and DC. Where they came to fame for a great cast of characters & side-characters and then once matured, tackles some fairly complex or interesting material, themes and character depth.
Yet still the biggest question will still be who wins... Batman or Superman!!!! Hulk or Wolverine? Could the Justice league beat Avengers? Except Naruto's fanbase is even more diluted of any meaningful quality, fair amounts of adults read comics after all. Naruto appeals to a veeeery loud, certain kind of loud internet user.

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Imagine the Civil War arc if they removed all the talk of human rights, law enforcement philosophy and Cap/Tony's long history and just made it a punching contest.

Match-ups are fun as hell and I like doing it too but if that's all the series becomes to you then you may as well be watching Power Rangers.
I'd love to see the biggest naruto and sasuke wankers get into a shounen like hunter x hunter...a series in which you actually have to out-think your opponents rather than overpower them:

[video=dailymotion;x4d97nt]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4d97nt[/video]

(ps fate/zero= best anime ever)
 

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I'd love to see the biggest naruto and sasuke wankers get into a shounen like hunter x hunter...a series in which you actually have to out-think your opponents rather than overpower them:

[video=dailymotion;x4d97nt]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4d97nt[/video]

(ps fate/zero= best anime ever)
Unsurprisingly, the best fights in Naruto are the tactical battles. Kakashi, Guy, Naruto & Bee fighting Tobi's Kamui, Animal Path VS Jiraiya, even Lee working around Gaara was somewhat strategic. Susanoos and chakra avatars ruined this series' action. I miss Sasuke's wire.

I'm about to start Yu Yu Hakusho, anyone know if that's a technical battle shounen? Jojo & Hunter are great examples but I could use another boost of thinking-action.
 

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The whole "my fav solos - your fav is fodder" deal is so retarded I won't even bother to specify how much.

As for the question did Kishi fail by creating cool chars, the answer is an obvious no. The fans that are actually relevant (ones who buy the manga, merchandise etc and actually support the author instead of just *****ing while pirating it) are actually civil and enjoy the manga. (Naruto always does well in WSJ rankings which is contrasted with the constant rants and nitpicking we see in forums like this one.)

Real fans are there for the series, not one character who they'll wank while he's OP and then shun when he gets nerfed.
 

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Unsurprisingly, the best fights in Naruto are the tactical battles. Kakashi, Guy, Naruto & Bee fighting Tobi's Kamui, Animal Path VS Jiraiya, even Lee working around Gaara was somewhat strategic. Susanoos and chakra avatars ruined this series' action. I miss Sasuke's wire.
it didn't ruin the series action...in fact the concept of chakra modes was actually quite interesting...the thing is it got spammed to holy hell which is what turned people off...when naruto as a series reached planetary level there was still strategy (see team 7 vs kaguya) it's just that certain jutsu (like tailed beast mode and perfect susanoo) were spammed to people's dislike...but in terms of strategy my favorite fight in the series has to be neji vs kidomaru...that was just the perfect chess match between opposing styles and I was highly entertained...same with sasuke vs deidara

I'm about to start Yu Yu Hakusho, anyone know if that's a technical battle shounen? Jojo & Hunter are great examples but I could use another boost of thinking-action.
that's funny...I'm actually re-watching yu yu hakusho right now!!!...but it isn't really as much of a technical battle shounen as yoshihiro togashi's other work hunter x hunter (the link I just showed you earlier) but it does do tournament arcs the best...in fact yu yu hakusho's dark tournament is considered by many the best tournament arc in manga/anime history
 
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