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Couldn't it just as equally be that you're missing the obvious, and the Big Bang is evidence of God?


Funny thing too, I'm going to college to go into Criminal Justice hopefully as a detective :D


I'm pretty sure you're gonna fail that class... you're already missing important pieces of evidence.
 

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No, that was just me being stubborn. By definition, you could say it's natural.



Cool, take your time.

Can't find it. D:
I'll keep it short then. From a smaller perspective, when you 'intent' to speak, you create vibration/frequency and thus you manipulate matter into forming sound/word.

''In the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was God.''

So, you need 'intention' aka 'consciousness' to manipulate matter. That's a more plausible approach of trying to proof the existence of a universal consciousness or in your words 'God' behind the scenes.

^ Meant as a more plausible approach of trying to understand the concept of God.
I honestly don't mind religious scripts but the way ppl try to portray God and such isn't getting us anywhere.

I realize I forgot a lot of information over the past few months, so I'll keep it at this lol.
 

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Its only controversial because we make it controversial. And that's mostly because things like the bible have convinced people its an evil act. In cultures like Ancient Greece or Rome, they were much more accepting of homosexuality. And in certain areas of the world today they're more accepting of it as well. It just depends on the culture you were raised with.

This makes sense.

Yes, The Bible had a part in making it a negative thing, no doubt.

Now, this is just what I believe, but I think that's a good thing.
 

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That provides nothing. I can say "No, simple as that" too, but it doesn't prove anything.

No, the fact that we know that your religious text are in fact copies of different, even older religions, does that for me.
 

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Can't find it. D:
I'll keep it short then. From a smaller perspective, when you 'intent' to speak, you create vibration/frequency and thus you manipulate matter into forming sound/word.

''In the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was God.''

So, you need 'intention' aka 'consciousness' to manipulate matter. That's a more plausible approach of trying to proof the existence of a universal consciousness or in your words 'God' behind the scenes.

^ Meant as a more plausible approach of trying to understand the concept of God.
I honestly don't mind religious scripts but the way ppl try to portray God and such isn't getting us anywhere.

I realize I forgot a lot of information over the past few months, so I'll keep it at this lol.

That's cool! I'm going to re-read this a couple more times later cause my phones about to die and I want to respond.

I'm going to try and put this in layman's terms here, that is basically stating that matter is only the vessel for something such as a consciousness that isn't tangible and can't be quantified?

I'm going to read up on this, thanks for introducing me to it!
 

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No, the fact that we know that your religious text are in fact copies of different, even older religions, does that for me.

You haven't provided any reason as to why The Big Bang couldn't be evidence of God.
 

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That's cool! I'm going to re-read this a couple more times later cause my phones about to die and I want to respond.

I'm going to try and put this in layman's terms here, that is basically stating that matter is only the vessel for something such as a consciousness that isn't tangible and can't be quantified?

I'm going to read up on this, thanks for introducing me to it!

You're welcome. And sorry I can't provide a more broad perspective on explaining reality.
You'd need to ask me very specific questions for old info to pop-up again. Explaining the big bang and such is way too broad atm.
 

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You're welcome. And sorry I can't provide a more broad perspective on explaining reality.
You'd need to ask me very specific questions for old info to pop-up again. Explaining the big bang and such is way too broad atm.

That's fine, as long as there are articles and such on the web (with diagrams) I should be able to understand pretty well.
 

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You haven't provided any reason as to why The Big Bang couldn't be evidence of God.

No, the fact that we know that your religious text are in fact copies of different, even older religions, does that for me.

Let me save you lemons some time.

We do NOT know if the big bang was caused by God or not as it boils down to the existence of a deity in the first place. There is no certainty at all with what caused the big bang, though the existence of a higher power, whether sentient or not, does make it seem more plausible.

It does not change the fact that you guys cannot prove the other one wrong in terms of certainty.
 

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You haven't provided any reason as to why The Big Bang couldn't be evidence of God.

Idiot, you just replied to it! The fact that your religion is based of other religions.
Jesus is nothing other than a new incarnation of Krishna, and Amon-Ra.
All of which were the sons of God, born from virgins, had 12 disciples, healed the sick, walked on water, preformed miracles, got persecuted, killed and resurrected in 3 days.

The fact that your God and prophet are nothing more than characters in what was then the ancient form of Marvel comics entertaiment, proves to me that every notion of a God pulling the strings in unfounded, invalid, and not supported by any form of evidence, which makes it impossible to even make said argument.
 

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Let me save you lemons some time.

We do NOT know if the big bang was caused by God or not as it boils down to the existence of a deity in the first place. There is no certainty at all with what caused the big bang, though the existence of a higher power, whether sentient or not, does make it seem more plausible.

It does not change the fact that you guys cannot prove the other one wrong in terms of certainty.

Yes, we do know. Thanks to people like Carl Sagen, Kraus, and Tyson.
 

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Idiot, you just replied to it! The fact that your religion is based of other religions.
Jesus is nothing other than a new incarnation of Krishna, and Amon-Ra.
All of which were the sons of God, born from virgins, had 12 disciples, healed the sick, walked on water, preformed miracles, got persecuted, killed and resurrected in 3 days.

The fact that your God and prophet are nothing more than characters in what was then the ancient form of Marvel comics entertaiment, proves to me that every notion of a God pulling the strings in unfounded, invalid, and not supported by any form of evidence, which makes it impossible to even make said argument.

Oh, I think there might have been a misunderstanding.

That guy is talking about the concept of God, not necessarily the version that man has thought up. He is most likely talking about the possibility of a higher power that caused the big bang, whether sentient or not.
I'm not talking about the set definition of God, I am talking about a creator. Something that started the big bang, it doesn't not even have to be self aware.
 

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Idiot, you just replied to it! The fact that your religion is based of other religions.
Jesus is nothing other than a new incarnation of Krishna, and Amon-Ra.
All of which were the sons of God, born from virgins, had 12 disciples, healed the sick, walked on water, preformed miracles, got persecuted, killed and resurrected in 3 days.

The fact that your God and prophet are nothing more than characters in what was then the ancient form of Marvel comics entertaiment, proves to me that every notion of a God pulling the strings in unfounded, invalid, and not supported by any form of evidence, which makes it impossible to even make said argument.

So...

How can you prove the Big Bang isn't evidence of that God? Or any, "god" really.

Those stories could easily have been the same story. That wouldn't make the Bible wrong, it would just be the latest incarnation of the same event.

I'm also curious as to where you are getting these facts. Are you just Googling, "things to disprove God"?
 

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A few millenia's ago (partial) nudity was considered natural . . . . . AND ITS BANNED IN CASES OF UNRESTRICTED PUBLIC DISPLAY!!!!! DAMN THEM, GO NATURAL!!!!!!
 

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A few millenia's ago (partial) nudity was considered natural . . . . . AND ITS BANNED IN CASES OF UNRESTRICTED PUBLIC DISPLAY!!!!! DAMN THEM, GO NATURAL!!!!!!

Get yo nudist ass outta my face !
 

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So...

How can you prove the Big Bang isn't evidence of that God? Or any, "god" really.

Those stories could easily have been the same story. That wouldn't make the Bible wrong, it would just be the latest incarnation of the same event.

I'm also curious as to where you are getting these facts. Are you just Googling, "things to disprove God"?

No, I actually read. I'm addicted to science.
I recently figured out Quantum-physics.

Google,.. please. You must be really stupid if you think information is only requirable via the internet.
 

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That's fine, as long as there are articles and such on the web (with diagrams) I should be able to understand pretty well.

To fill in on my previous post, do know that our reality is in fact build on frequency. Everything! Is vibrational and kept in form with vibrating geometrical patterns. Thus, this counts to the building blocks of our reality. An atom consists of 99% empty space.Scientists have achieved levitation by altering a frequency with a machine having a result of levitating water droplets.

There's many more info out there on this.
This stuff gives you a 'mind blown' moment and changes the way you look at reality.
 

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Oh, I think there might have been a misunderstanding.

That guy is talking about the concept of God, not necessarily the version that man has thought up. He is most likely talking about the possibility of a higher power that caused the big bang, whether sentient or not.
I'm not talking about the set definition of God, I am talking about a creator. Something that started the big bang, it doesn't not even have to be self aware.

Same thing, spirituality is just as valid as religious Gods.
 
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