so6p mode based on nine tailed fox yang chakra

[Sage of the Force]

I don't know if anyone else has already said this but I just had an idea that naruto has his so6p mode because the nine-tails only has its yang chakra now. I think naruto doesn't have a fox cloak when he took the nine-tails chakra because he only had yang chakra. Without the yin chakra or imagination/spiritual of the nine tailed fox, the chakra naruto stole doesn't automatically look like the fox. (when the fox is in control it looks like the fox because the fox is controlling it..) Also I was thinking that naruto has that so6p look because that's where the yang chakra/physical energy of the nine-tails came from. If the nine tails chakra wasn't sealed, naruto probably would look like the fox. Just a thought, what do you guys think?

 

[Sage of the Force]

Kishi doesn't need a reason for everything...though this is a possible explanation...do you guys think it works?

 

[Hammy120290]

Well if you think about this logically.

The SOSP had to create the tailed beasts i.e. give them form.

The Juubi still had a physical form thus was sealed and created as the Moon.

So Yin - Spiritual.

Yang - Physical.

The SOSP gave the tailed beasts physical form using HIS chakra thus ALL the YANG chakra of the tailed beast are the SOSP's.

All the Yin is the Juubi's but takes on the traits of that SPIRIT i.e. the YIN chakra of the fox takes on the shape of a Fox etc.

The Juubi still has all his YANG chakra but he cant do anything as this is just his physical form and needs Yin or to me YIN = SOUL the Juubi needs his Soul back to function.

Thoughts?

 

[MegamanXZOBMV]

As much as I enjoy the theory, I think Naruto's new form is just a holler and throwback at how the Senju heritage (related to the Uzumaki) goes back to the Sage of Six Paths.

Hammy's explanation does make a lot more sense though, however if this was the case, and the Yin was the soul.. the Kyuubi would not nearly be as malicious towards it's host as it is. It's be more like an entity driven entirely off bodily instinct and survival, possessing only the traits to exist with a physical (yang) form. Since the Yin chakra was sealed away by Minato into the God of Death, should the above scenario be correct, the Jyuubi could never truly become the Jyuubi again. Instead of a 10-tailed Beast, it'd be a 9.5 Tailed reject.

 

[Hammy120290]

Hammy's explanation does make a lot more sense though, however if this was the case, and the Yin was the soul.. the Kyuubi would not nearly be as malicious towards it's host as it is. Since the Yin chakra was sealed away by Minato into the God of Death.QUOTE]

Well you say my theory makes a LOT of sense...but no I dont think so????

Look why would the Kyuubi not be malicious towards its host?? Its a physical being that has been put in a cage within a cage i.e. human body and its been 12-13 years before he even speaks to Naruto...i'd be pretty malicious.

And it has been said that the KEY that Naruto used i.e. his chakra on Frog Mountain the scroll that Minato used Naruto we think Unlocked the Yin chakra of the Fox.

 

[MegamanXZOBMV]

First off. I meant to imply that without a soul, the Kyuubi wouldn't have much of a personality to begin with. I simply worded it wrong, which was my mistake.

Secondly, by your logic of the Key Naruto was given, Minato had the ability to make a key that completely undos the effects of the Dead Demon Consuming Seal. So this key he made allows Naruto to access chakra contained within the stomach of the God of Death, supposedly forever sealed away just as Minato, Kushina, Hashirama, Tobirama, and Hiruzen now are? I find that very hard to believe.

 

[Sage of the Force]

Since the Yin chakra was sealed away by Minato into the God of Death, should the above scenario be correct, the Jyuubi could never truly become the Jyuubi again. Instead of a 10-tailed Beast, it'd be a 9.5 Tailed reject.

I think that since the juubi could still be recreated it just might take longer. Madara used the tailed beasts' chakra to create the zetsu army, but he should still be able to recreate the juubi. It just might take longer because there isn't as much chakra, at least that's my opinion. And also the Kyubbi would retain its soul/will because minato didn't take it's soul/will he took his ying chakra. That means he just took away the spiritual aspects of his chakra...so he can't really create stuff out of nothing.....he just has a ton of physical energy...what do you guys think?.....also my opinion on the dead demon consuming seal is....once your in the seal..your stuck in the seal....there's nothing revealed so far that releases souls/chakra that was sealed in that seal

 

[Hammy120290]

First off. I meant to imply that without a soul, the Kyuubi wouldn't have much of a personality to begin with. I simply worded it wrong, which was my mistake.

Secondly, by your logic of the Key Naruto was given, Minato had the ability to make a key that completely undos the effects of the Dead Demon Consuming Seal. So this key he made allows Naruto to access chakra contained within the stomach of the God of Death, supposedly forever sealed away just as Minato, Kushina, Hashirama, Tobirama, and Hiruzen now are? I find that very hard to believe.

I never said he didnt have a soul....re read my oroginaly post. I said that the Yang chakra was the SOSP.

The YIN = Soul was from the Juubi...this Juubi chakra has been split 9 times over to creat 9 seperate entities and the tailed beasts after Centuries...Millenia....have developed their own personalities or they have just taken on personalities of their animal.

And this WASNT my logic others have said the Yin chakra was released when he done this as it wasnt revealed apparently what this key was for. I'm not sure tbh but it could make sense as we never actually saw Minato seal the fox's Yin chakra within the Demon. And if Minato was FOREVER sealed why was it implied he was being summoned by Orochimaru vs Hiruzen when a coffin appeared saying "4th."

 

[Sage of the Force]

I never said he didnt have a soul....re read my oroginaly post. I said that the Yang chakra was the SOSP.

The YIN = Soul was from the Juubi...this Juubi chakra has been split 9 times over to creat 9 seperate entities and the tailed beasts after Centuries...Millenia....have developed their own personalities or they have just taken on personalities of their animal.

And this WASNT my logic others have said the Yin chakra was released when he done this as it wasnt revealed apparently what this key was for. I'm not sure tbh but it could make sense as we never actually saw Minato seal the fox's Yin chakra within the Demon. And if Minato was FOREVER sealed why was it implied he was being summoned by Orochimaru vs Hiruzen when a coffin appeared saying "4th."

That would make sense if the souls were from the juubi because the juubi's chakra was used to create the tailed beasts......btw just a warning this is a spoiler if you only watch the anime and don't read the manga.

Spoiler

We saw the 4th seal the yin chakra in chapter 504 (he doesn't specifically say yin but he says half)....also we're told by the frog ppl i think that the key was so one day naruto could release the nine tails and take control over it

.....and yes i think it was kind of stupid that the 4th was implied to be summoned by orochimaru....this series can be confusing at times...but that's why we discuss it.....I wonder if kishi will ever tell us where the juubi came from...or if it was just there...

 

[rasenshurenken]

I don't know if anyone else has already said this but I just had an idea that naruto has his so6p mode because the nine-tails only has its yang chakra now. I think naruto doesn't have a fox cloak when he took the nine-tails chakra because he only had yang chakra. Without the yin chakra or imagination/spiritual of the nine tailed fox, the chakra naruto stole doesn't automatically look like the fox. (when the fox is in control it looks like the fox because the fox is controlling it..) Also I was thinking that naruto has that so6p look because that's where the yang chakra/physical energy of the nine-tails came from. If the nine tails chakra wasn't sealed, naruto probably would look like the fox. Just a thought, what do you guys think?

i dont understand what you are saying

 

[Sage of the Force]

I'm saying maybe naruto looks like the so6p when he has the kyubbi's chakra because it's only the yang chakra....if there was yin chakra too he would probably look like the fox...just a theory