So6p had susanoo?

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Just hear me out, a sharingan can predict movement,copy jutsus and genjutsu someone if they look at your eyes.
Ms can use tsukuyomi,amaterasu and susanoo in most cases, we don´t know what other technique shisui had, ms has everything a sharingan has + tsukuyomi,amaterasu,susanoo´but you get blind from it.
Then you have ems which is ms without side-effect and one more technique as i remember it.

Then you have the rinnegan which is shinra tensei,bansho tenin,chibaku tensei,preta path,naraka path,human path,animal path,asura path, outer path which is rinne tensei,gedo mazo and meteor jutsu + all ems techniques,predicting movement,genjutsu,copy jutsus.

An uchiha who awakens rinnegan can do everything the sharingan/ems could do + everything rinnegan can do.

Nagato couldn´t predict movement, genjutsu etc cuz he´s not uchiha, he´s uzumaki, he can handle the rinnegan cuz of his chakra levels unlike kakashi but he can´t bring out its full potential.

Jiraiya said that rinnegan allowed nagato to master all elements and every technique he taught him.

With that said, could we agree that so6p could do susanoo amaterasu,tsukuyomi,kotoamatsukami, all elements, creation of all things,izanagi without side-effect?

So so6p could do susanoo???
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I bet he took it to a whole other level.
I think the flames that appear around naraka path and rinne tensei is amaterasu flames but the anime screwed it up by giving it a purple-dark colour when it should have been simply black.

Ps: Naraka path isn´t supposed to be physical yet itachi threw kunai at its eyes, where the hell did itachi even get those kunai from cuz he was an edo, how did he hit him if he wasn´t physical, he wasn´t supposed to have weapons and if nagato has shared field of vision then he should have known itachi was approaching cuz he could see the kunai coming at him and blinding 2 of his eyes as well as when that animal got blinded, nagato would have noticed that + nagato had his preta path on so susanoo should have gotten absorbed on contact..................................... that was a plot-hole kishi made for itachi, just goes to show that he love his uchihas and that itachi would be history if he didn´t have kishi kissing his ass and breaking rules for him, when itachi broke from edo tensei, no one on nb besides me asked(it´s true) why itachi use amaterasu on nagato and naruto didn´t care at all and didn´t seem to care much when he was getting sealed.
 
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Uh, no. Not logically or feasibly he didn't, at least. It'd make more sense that the Gedo Mazo would be his alternative to Susano'o. Especially considering that it hasn't been established whether the Rinnengan can use MS/EMS exclusive techniques yet.
 

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he had every jutsu i guess
 

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Yes, he would have had ever ms technique and rinnegan....It all came from him
 

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the sage created jutsu, thats why rinnegan can master all jutsu
 

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I don't think he had every powerfully jutsu. Granted he could probably created it he wanted but certain abilites and jutsu evolved like because everybody is different and and what everybody does with abilites is different
 

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i don't see why the SO6P wouldn't have susanoo ... he DID create/discover ninjutsu.

As for part of your "PS" - Why wouldn't Kabuto supply Itachi and other Edos with kunai and shuriken once they're summoned? If you remember, itachi and nagato walked a long way before encountering naruto and bee - they weren't summoned right on the spot.
 

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You could be possibly right, but still unknown about EMS to Rinnegan thing.

Blue: Itachi can see chakra thanks to his Sharingan. Itachi also has a pouch like any other Ninja or Akatsuki in Naruto. Naruto understood that Nagato and Itachi was an Edo (Forbidden beacuse of its evil nature) and could not hold back beacuse of his personal feelings.
 

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Lol.. Guys, let's use our heads for a moment. Think about this. The SO6P was a ninja, a very, very powerful ninja. Does that automatically make him have possession of every ninjutsu in existence regardless of him being the one noted to be the father of it? No. He invented the concept and fundamentals of it - not literally every ninjutsu technique. And if you're not forgetting, Susano's parent doujutsu is the sharingan, not the rinnengan. These two still haven't been established to be interchangeable feats yet. So stop with all the bias nonsense, people.
 

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Well,Nagato was being controlled by Kabuto. So it would explain why his reaction timing was off,cause Kabuto reaction was slow. Also we don't know if the SO6P had susanoo. So no for know.


P.s If Kishi like the Uchiha more,then the clan will still be alive,and the show would be named after Sasuke. Its just the story, Uchihas are meant to be taken out.
 

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i don't see why the SO6P wouldn't have susanoo ... he DID create/discover ninjutsu.

As for part of your "PS" - Why wouldn't Kabuto supply Itachi and other Edos with kunai and shuriken once they're summoned? If you remember, itachi and nagato walked a long way before encountering naruto and bee - they weren't summoned right on the spot.

No, he´s not supposed to know every jutsu, not those of bloodlines, the uchiha came from him so that´s why he has susanoo but he don´t have chidori for example cuz that´s something kakashi created himself.

We saw that he didn´t have a pouch and zabuza and the swordsmen didn´t have their swords, madara didn´t have his fan, 3rd raikage didn´t have his bandana, you get it?
 

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i don't see why the SO6P wouldn't have susanoo ... he DID create/discover ninjutsu.

As for part of your "PS" - Why wouldn't Kabuto supply Itachi and other Edos with kunai and shuriken once they're summoned? If you remember, itachi and nagato walked a long way before encountering naruto and bee - they weren't summoned right on the spot.

No, he´s not supposed to know every jutsu, not those of bloodlines, the uchiha came from him so that´s why he has susanoo but he don´t have chidori for example cuz that´s something kakashi created himself.

We saw that he didn´t have a pouch and zabuza and the swordsmen didn´t have their swords at first, madara didn´t have his fan, 3rd raikage didn´t have his bandana, you get it?
 

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That is a possibility considering that a reboot bootleg version of the rinnegan (Ms and EMS) so why couldn't the original man to posses the rinnegan have it.
 

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No, he´s not supposed to know every jutsu, not those of bloodlines, the uchiha came from him so that´s why he has susanoo but he don´t have chidori for example cuz that´s something kakashi created himself.

We saw that he didn´t have a pouch and zabuza and the swordsmen didn´t have their swords at first, madara didn´t have his fan, 3rd raikage didn´t have his bandana, you get it?

Here, put this analogy into consideration: When the father gave birth to the son, an entirely different entity was born.

No, this isn't a practical analogy (or one you can search up for that matter); it's just a crappy one I forged at the top of my head. But in context this means that the Uchiha Clan may be decendants of the rinnengan or otherwise the SO6P, but that doesn't necessarily mean the rinnengan is the heir to the Uchiha's unique abilities. Which is the honest case here. If that were so, Nagato would have been busting out Uchiha moves all day every day against some of his previous foes. Fact of the matter is, he didn't because he couldn't.

Simply put, it isn't very logical to assume the SO6P had the Susano'o. Even if he did (which is seriously doubtful), at this point it's irrelevant or at least trivial.
 
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Just hear me out, a sharingan can predict movement,copy jutsus and genjutsu someone if they look at your eyes.
Ms can use tsukuyomi,amaterasu and susanoo in most cases, we don´t know what other technique shisui had, ms has everything a sharingan has + tsukuyomi,amaterasu,susanoo´but you get blind from it.
Then you have ems which is ms without side-effect and one more technique as i remember it.

Then you have the rinnegan which is shinra tensei,bansho tenin,chibaku tensei,preta path,naraka path,human path,animal path,asura path, outer path which is rinne tensei,gedo mazo and meteor jutsu + all ems techniques,predicting movement,genjutsu,copy jutsus.

An uchiha who awakens rinnegan can do everything the sharingan/ems could do + everything rinnegan can do.

Nagato couldn´t predict movement, genjutsu etc cuz he´s not uchiha, he´s uzumaki, he can handle the rinnegan cuz of his chakra levels unlike kakashi but he can´t bring out its full potential.

Jiraiya said that rinnegan allowed nagato to master all elements and every technique he taught him.

With that said, could we agree that so6p could do susanoo amaterasu,tsukuyomi,kotoamatsukami, all elements, creation of all things,izanagi without side-effect?

So so6p could do susanoo???
I bet he took it to a whole other level.
I think the flames that appear around naraka path and rinne tensei is amaterasu flames but the anime screwed it up by giving it a purple-dark colour when it should have been simply black.


Ps: Naraka path isn´t supposed to be physical yet itachi threw kunai at its eyes, where the hell did itachi even get those kunai from cuz he was an edo, how did he hit him if he wasn´t physical, he wasn´t supposed to have weapons and if nagato has shared field of vision then he should have known itachi was approaching cuz he could see the kunai coming at him and blinding 2 of his eyes as well as when that animal got blinded, nagato would have noticed that + nagato had his preta path on so susanoo should have gotten absorbed on contact..................................... that was a plot-hole kishi made for itachi, just goes to show that he love his uchihas and that itachi would be history if he didn´t have kishi kissing his ass and breaking rules for him, when itachi broke from edo tensei, no one on nb besides me asked(it´s true) why itachi use amaterasu on nagato and naruto didn´t care at all and didn´t seem to care much when he was getting sealed.

Mby the Sage was the same like Nagato .. only Rinnegan abilities and The Six Elements .. i dont think the Sage had Sharingan or something like that :) just my imho :)
 

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Definitely. Rinnegan is the Sharingan´s full potential. The Sage created it all, he had it all.
 

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Just hear me out, a sharingan can predict movement,copy jutsus and genjutsu someone if they look at your eyes.
Ms can use tsukuyomi,amaterasu and susanoo in most cases, we don´t know what other technique shisui had, ms has everything a sharingan has + tsukuyomi,amaterasu,susanoo´but you get blind from it.
Then you have ems which is ms without side-effect and one more technique as i remember it.

Then you have the rinnegan which is shinra tensei,bansho tenin,chibaku tensei,preta path,naraka path,human path,animal path,asura path, outer path which is rinne tensei,gedo mazo and meteor jutsu + all ems techniques,predicting movement,genjutsu,copy jutsus.

An uchiha who awakens rinnegan can do everything the sharingan/ems could do + everything rinnegan can do.

Nagato couldn´t predict movement, genjutsu etc cuz he´s not uchiha, he´s uzumaki, he can handle the rinnegan cuz of his chakra levels unlike kakashi but he can´t bring out its full potential.

Jiraiya said that rinnegan allowed nagato to master all elements and every technique he taught him.

With that said, could we agree that so6p could do susanoo amaterasu,tsukuyomi,kotoamatsukami, all elements, creation of all things,izanagi without side-effect?

So so6p could do susanoo???
I bet he took it to a whole other level.
I think the flames that appear around naraka path and rinne tensei is amaterasu flames but the anime screwed it up by giving it a purple-dark colour when it should have been simply black.

Ps: Naraka path isn´t supposed to be physical yet itachi threw kunai at its eyes, where the hell did itachi even get those kunai from cuz he was an edo, how did he hit him if he wasn´t physical, he wasn´t supposed to have weapons and if nagato has shared field of vision then he should have known itachi was approaching cuz he could see the kunai coming at him and blinding 2 of his eyes as well as when that animal got blinded, nagato would have noticed that + nagato had his preta path on so susanoo should have gotten absorbed on contact..................................... that was a plot-hole kishi made for itachi, just goes to show that he love his uchihas and that itachi would be history if he didn´t have kishi kissing his ass and breaking rules for him, when itachi broke from edo tensei, no one on nb besides me asked(it´s true) why itachi use amaterasu on nagato and naruto didn´t care at all and didn´t seem to care much when he was getting sealed.



I don't see y not no jutsu is out of his grasp but Due to his imagination and lack of need since he was peaceful..
More than likely he only had few jutsu which would've been more supplementary.

Mystic palm
The deva path techs (how he beat the juubi )
Sharingan mind control/kotoasukami (also used on juubi)
Jinchuriki sealing method (juubi )
Creation of all things (prefect inazagi don't care bout the spelling)
Phoenix sage fire (sage)
Sharingan chakra vision

I don't think he even used those legendary items since he already could do all those same things.

Now whats ya beef with itachi?
The kunai thing is, called lightning blade creation...
He seals on contact so even if the absorption tech is used it is an outward barrier so guess what ? Once they make contact bam sealed.
 
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