So . . Why are we blaming Obama again?

[Darth Wignus]

You can't blame someone for all your problems. The problem is obama is a ***** and can't man up for his decisions. You add 6 trillion dollars in debt, claim its someone elses fault, and keep spending more money. How is running an economy on a weak currency going to solve anything. If money is worthless then the economy cannot function. The only value would be food, medicine, and water. You want worthless money? Vote for obama i'm sure he'll add another 4 trillion to the deficit if he's re-elected.

Your dealing in misinformation.
Obama is weak because he spent all day making job killing.deals with republicans like extendibg the Bush tax cuts and not doing a second round of stimulus. How cab you jump start and economy if the gov. isn't investing money in it? Are the banks gonna do it? Hahaa last time I check the banks needed money from the gov.

I'd love to see how Romney creates jobs since when he was Governor of Massachusetts and took the states economy down from top 20 all the way to 47th. Also he as CEO of Bain Capital manage to kill millions of jobs as a vulture capitalist.

So I even get why you think Republicans would be any better? Independent economist already said his economic places would shed billions of jobs and shrink the economy and increases the tax burden of the middle class and already shrinking middle class.

 

[youralltrolls]

Your dealing in misinformation.
Obama is weak because he spent all day making job killing.deals with republicans like extendibg the Bush tax cuts and not doing a second round of stimulus. How cab you jump start and economy if the gov. isn't investing money in it? Are the banks gonna do it? Hahaa last time I check the banks needed money from the gov.

I'd love to see how Romney creates jobs since when he was Governor of Massachusetts and took the states economy down from top 20 all the way to 47th. Also he as CEO of Bain Capital manage to kill millions of jobs as a vulture capitalist.

So I even get why you think Republicans would be any better? Independent economist already said his economic places would shed billions of jobs and shrink the economy and increases the tax burden of the middle class and already shrinking middle class.

Wow great assumptions, because i'm not for obama i'm automatically a republican? Are you serious right now? Good job you close minded idiot, you completely assure yourself the title of ignorant prick.

 

[Darth Wignus]

Wow great assumptions, because i'm not for obama i'm automatically a republican? Are you serious right now? Good job you close minded idiot, you completely assure yourself the title of ignorant prick.

"ignorant prick" maybe but it's a two party system so you can only vote one way or the other. Since I don't have a party of independent sane people to vote for I gotta vote the closes to ly views.

 

[youralltrolls]

"ignorant prick" maybe but it's a two party system so you can only vote one way or the other. Since I don't have a party of independent sane people to vote for I gotta vote the closes to ly views.

1: Its a two party system but that doesn't mean I can only vote for them. I can vote for that guy who wears a boot on his head I forget his name if I wanted too. I can vote for the homeless dude that begs on the side of the street. Your seriously so ignorant and un-educated about the voting process let alone politics its pathetic.

His name is Vermin Supreme by the way.

 

[Darth Wignus]

1: Its a two party system but that doesn't mean I can only vote for them. I can vote for that guy who wears a boot on his head I forget his name if I wanted too. I can vote for the homeless dude that begs on the side of the street. Your seriously so ignorant and un-educated about the voting process let alone politics its pathetic.

His name is Vermin Supreme by the way.

Yea... You could but that's a vote wasted. I'm a Political Science major so I actually know what I'm talking about. 3rd party votes are always a waste of time.

 

[Aponi]

Soo.. why are we making these stupid effing threads again.

 

[youralltrolls]

Yea... You could but that's a vote wasted. I'm a Political Science major so I actually know what I'm talking about. 3rd party votes are always a waste of time.

Your a political science major but make an assumption that people only vote republican or democrat, your a republican if you don't support obama, and think 3rd party votes are a waste of time.

Fact: 31 U.S. Senators, 111 Representatives, and 22 Governors that weren't affiliated with a major party were elected. Here's a link

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Its funny your a Political Science major yet you are debating with the knowledge a common high school student has.

 

[LeEvilTongue]

I dont ever want to see a republican president again!!!
Obama FTW

 

[Darthlawsuit]

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[-Liquid Cefka-]

Wow great assumptions, because i'm not for obama i'm automatically a republican? Are you serious right now? Good job you close minded idiot, you completely assure yourself the title of ignorant prick.

And your mad because?

Obama isnt blaming anyone for anything. Its evident, He's working with the remnants of an already broken economy, but it looks like you dont wanna here that.

Maybe its because you think we're trying to put Obama on a pedal stool, which isnt the case.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Soo.. why are we making these stupid effing threads again.

Save it.

I make a thread concerning real life circumstances, and its considered "dumb". But a thread spammed literally a thousand times involving Itachi, Minato, or Tobi gets constantly replied to, no matter how stupid it is.

Spare me the bullshit. Maybe its you thats "dumb".

 

[Darth Wignus]

Your a political science major but make an assumption that people only vote republican or democrat, your a republican if you don't support obama, and think 3rd party votes are a waste of time.

Fact: 31 U.S. Senators, 111 Representatives, and 22 Governors that weren't affiliated with a major party were elected. Here's a link

You must be registered for see links

Its funny your a Political Science major yet you are debating with the knowledge a common high school student has.

We're talking about the presidency... I don't see any numbers up there relating to that. Cause in presidential elections 3rd parties don't matter. Out of the 200+ year history of America those numbers are less than 10% of all political office holders. You can climb off that high horse now.

 

[ten tailed demon]

Sorry, what? Gas is 4 dollars a gallon where I live, and even higher in other places. Millions of workers have gotten laid off in recent years.

Thats not bad? =^O

almost 5 dollars over here, but jobs are easy 2 get if anybody just goes 4 them,the thing is now u got me thinking,i work 2 jobs and still every thing is expensive as hell.

 

[Zanji]

Something that a lot of people either fail to realize or are just to arrogant to notice is that our country has never truly been ran by just one person. Obama is our president yes, he has been elected to be our president by the people of the US. But he has been unable to fulfill any of the promises he made during his initial campaign due to the fact that.....correct me if I am wrong.....the House of Representatives majority is Republican, and most if not all Republican's have always been against Obama since he took office and would do anything to stop him. So the main things he has been able to do has had to go threw their hands first and get their approval.

So all in all it is not ALL Obama's fault. Like it has been said before this man had to come in and clean up an 8 year mess, Obama has had to try and fix as much as he could which is very little because he hasn't been given the breathing room that he has needed.

Everybody says that Obama said "He would bring all our troops home" Easier said than done people you can't just swoop in and bring everybody back at once, that is too much of a risk. You have to do so gradually, eventually most of our troops will be back home but it won't be something that will or can be done overnight.

People are blaming Obama for the way our economy is........It's not his fault, the US dollar doesn't buy as much as it use to be able to, so that doesn't leave corporations with very much money left therefore they cannot keep as many employee's or they just go out of business and everyone is out of a job. I personally know how hard it is to get a job when everyone around me is more qualified for that position......

The best thing this country could possibly do right now is not rely so heavily on other countries to supply us with goods and start using our own.....we have enough goods to last us at least 200 yrs without having to be so dependent on other countries. It would put jobs on the market, it would benefit us more in so many different ways and eventually the US would be back on top where it use to be, instead of the rapid downward spiral it has been in.

Also another thing that could help is that everyone just shut up and stop playing the blame game and start trying to fix issues, help out where needed.

Now remember I do not vote simply because I don't see a purpose in doing so if everyone is going to do is just blame the person who was elected not 6 months into their term

 

[kakashi owns all]

Remember Obama running around for two years as a candidate when the unemployment was 5% saying we have the worst economy in 70 years ?
- Remember Obama traveled to Denmark to lobby for Chicago’s Olympic bid?
- Remember when Obama said unemployment would not go beyond 8% if his "stimulus plan" was passed?
- Remember Obama promoted “Summer Recovery Tour”?
- Remember Obama ordered that the Guantanamo Bay military prison camp be closed within a year. He had no idea then ( and has no idea now )
- Remember Obama claimed he’s in charge the oil spill since “day one” ?
- Remember Obama said "I will not add 1 DIME to the debt?
- Remember Shovel ready jobs (he didn’t push for jobs but shoves employees).
- Remember 535 million dollars for Solyndra to create approximately 4000 jobs? ( It’s 135K/job ! )
- Remember Obama let AG Eric Holder announced that The terrorists would be tried in fed court in NY without consulting the FBI or NYPD.
- Remember Obama said Cambridge Mass Police acted “stupidly” while acknowledge he did not know “all the facts”.
- Remember Obama said he opposed the AZ’s immigration law but then admitted he had not read it.
- Remember Obama used the word 'enemy' for fellow Americans, fellow citizens. He used it for people who disagree with his agenda of bigger government.

To the Obama fans that are trying to give credit to Obama on Iraq issues.
Remember the press confrence when the shoes were thrown at George W Bush. That was when the U.S.A. and Iraq decided that all troops would leave Iraq by Dec, 31 2011. It is called The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: "Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq. Look it up if this isnt over your head. This success that obama is taking credit for was already decided in Dec 2008 before obama was president. Obama actually tried to keep troops there but thankfully Iraq would not grant immunity to US soldiers. Another attempt by obama to try to make something positive out of his presidency.

 

[Grim]

It's president's possition to take all the blame and how did Bush **** things up???

I'm pretty sure there is only one to blame - Federal bank and government for letting things go out of hands years ago ...

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Lol, I said it once already.

It isn't like this is the Obama FC. I'm only asking does he deserve blame, and some of you have given great insight on the situation, and that what I wanted.

Again, this isnt some Republican bashing thread, or FC. I'm not a huge fan of any kind of politician, Republican or Democrat.

 

[Swizzik]

Does the president even control the economy?

 

[youralltrolls]

We're talking about the presidency... I don't see any numbers up there relating to that. Cause in presidential elections 3rd parties don't matter. Out of the 200+ year history of America those numbers are less than 10% of all political office holders. You can climb off that high horse now.

No you said "3rd party votes are a waste" I just showed you they're not. :flaw:

 

[arv993]

Some of u guys are blaming obama for too many issues. Fixing the economy is something the president have much power over as some ppl believe. He is not a dictator lol and honestly Ben Bernanke the head of the federal reserve has more of an effect on the value of the dollar and the economy more than obama ever has. And our Congress is divided and never agree on most things so blaming Obama on some issues isnt quite fair. Bush was the one who took us to war in afghanistan and Iraq and is a heavy burden till this day. Romney is promising things too like every freaking president has done before like Obama also because otherwise u wont get elected if only one candidate is confident and promises things to the people. American public isnt all informed so candidates have to promise things such as getting x amount of jobs and yada yada yada but not all of them are going to achieve it especially when one half of the congress is controlled by the opposing party.