So, who wants to bet on Madara having killed Rin?

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Yeah, a mighty letdown, but ever since Obito mentioned to Kakashi that one of his reasons for turning against his former friends was the death of Rin, I'm afraid this was a highly possible.

While this rings a bell with the canon, as in, Kakashi, ever since the "death" of Obito, being devoted to protecting his friends instead of merely accomplishing missions, would never allow for Rin's death, especially given Obito's dying wishes...

...but at the same time, this highly polarises the manga towards a Manichaean stance, rather than a far more interesting "shades of gray" scenario, where you have a fatalistic anti-hero, who, knowing all too well how human nature goes, decides to take all of humanity into genjutsu Matrix for its own benefit, and on the other side, we have the very Naruto, who, while a powerful force, is no more than a tool to a highly militarised and back-stabbing village, which wants nothing but hegemonic dominance over others, no matter the cost.

Anyways, I'm afraid that in order to pain the devil black and give Madara his official coat of the "bad guys club", we're going to see him setting Rin up to die.

Thoughts?
 

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de gea would

I wanna see the latest manga then see ur theory
 

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Yeah but most people think those can be white getsu transformed into mist ninja. I think rin is alive and only kakashi knows.
 

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Didn't Zetsu say Kakashi and Rin were surrounded by Mist ninja?

yup true...but i think the op is getting at this....madara as the mist's leader at one point so he might be saying that madara planned to screw tobito over so he can get his eye power up..see how it works?
 

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I'd love it. It'd be such an interesting twist.

Well, I'd love it as long as Obito found out about it. If not, well...then it'd be useless, of course.
 

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Good point, he has easy access to their DNA meaning Zetsu could of transformed into them. I think Obito's gonna find that out during this his current battle, then turn on Madara.
 

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Everyone becomes insta-theorist with each chapter that's dropped.
 

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Good point, he has easy access to their DNA meaning Zetsu could of transformed into them. I think Obito's gonna find that out during this his current battle, then turn on Madara.

plus it also fits into the theme of completing their plan by any means(we seen how cold pain was)


but i still think its a stretch tho....if kishi actually did it i would sue from copy right
 

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I wouldn't put it past kishi to have Madara have killed her. But wouldn't it be funny if it was actually the zetsu suit that took control of obito's body and then killed her to unlock his eye..? And then Obito blamed kakashi for not being able to stop him.

I mean its far fetched but .... i mean come on.. this is Naruto we are talking about.
 

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Personally, I think that Obito will take his number in the long list of repentant villains who, in the end, sacrifice themselves in order to achieve redemption; Kakashi will either inherit one of Obito's eyes, of will return the one he borrowed years before.

But anyways, what's likely to happen is that Obito will somehow turn on Madara... And Rin's death will probably play a role in this, I assume.

Still, we have yet to see Sasuke meeting Madara... And somehow, all of the above is too end-game; it feels like not all of the cast has gotten to a point of closure.
 

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I could see that happening, but I wouldn't say that it is Madara's view against a militeristic view. Naruto is supposed to be taking the hatred of the world so it is now becomming Forced Peace vs the attempt for Natural Peace.

Now it would be better if Madara doesn't turn out to be some dirtbag who goes to any means to get the job done (Set up Rin's death) and instead because of something like Izuna dying or his anger at being denied by his own clan. While both of those are kind of lame they are better than the stereotypical I am trying to rule the world and I'll do it by any means possible.
 

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Yeah maybe...
 

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Yeah but most people think those can be white getsu transformed into mist ninja. I think rin is alive and only kakashi knows.

Yeah then Rin turned out to be the main antagonist coz she took Mada's eyes and worked w/ Oro that's the reason why Oro boy obtianed info about Sharingan - Rinnegan connection. Then Sasuke will get more angry bcoz of that then will point it against Konoha and will whant it to destroy more. And thats how Naruto ended the whole story just exploded lol!!! Anything can happen now!
 
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