So, what powers are you expecting from Juubi-Jin Obito?

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Re: Obito will use rinnegan now?

I'm guessing that he had to use izanagi for some reason, and that his sharingan will be replaced with the juubi doujutsu.
 

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Re: Obito will use rinnegan now?

He has to do something with the Rinnegan, he didn't do anything with it yet :|
 

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Re: Obito will use rinnegan now?

I'm guessing that he had to use izanagi for some reason, and that his sharingan will be replaced with the juubi doujutsu.

Yea I saw a good bit of threads earlier today talkin about him using Izanagi.. I didnt understand till they said the Juubi's eye will replace it somehow.. They said he used Izanagi when Minato attacked which I dont recall him using at the time, but we'll see soon enough
 

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Re: Obito will use rinnegan now?

Yea I saw a good bit of threads earlier today talkin about him using Izanagi.. I didnt understand till they said the Juubi's eye will replace it somehow.. They said he used Izanagi when Minato attacked which I dont recall him using at the time, but we'll see soon enough

I mean, his sharingan wasn't seen since madara tried to take him over.
 

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Re: Obito will use rinnegan now?

I mean, his sharingan wasn't seen since madara tried to take him over.

Exactly I saw it was absent.. It was blurry for some odd reason, I even had to go back & read the chapter again just make clear of the situation...
 

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Re: The reason Obito hasn't been shown using the Rinnegan to it's fullest?

The Rinnegan techniques would however not have been easily countered at all. In many instances, they might even have given him a victory. Why didn't he use the Preta Path on Naruto's Rasengan? Why didn't he use the Human Path when he touched Kakashi? Why didn't he use the Deva Path in order to take out Gai? Using any of these a single time would not have been too Chakra taxing at all, and would have made the match a lot easier for him.However, Obito was fully aware of how one uses the techniques of the Six Paths, and should definitely have been able to use them, at least to a certain extent.

Simply countering the Rin'negan's techniques isn't the issue but chakra pools would also have to be considered as Kakashi rightly stated. Jutsu such as Chou shinra tensei, Chibaku tensei or using multiple paths simultaneously [for each jinchuriki also] would have no doubt taken tremendous defects on Obito looking at the tolls taken on Nagato. Obito's objective with the Rin'negan was to resurrect the Juubi, nothing more.

@Bold: In actuality those things would have been tasking given that Obito was:

-> Maintaining control over both the Jinchriki and their Respective Bijuu
-> Supplying them basic Sharingan functions [ability to anticipate attacks]
-> Supplying them basic Rin'negan functions [linked vision]
-> Maintaining the Gedo summon
-> Utilizing Kamui
-> Utilizing the Outer path chains
-> Initiating Jinchuriki transformations

All these things would have been consuming his chakra tremendously; and how would utilizing the paths aid him in any when when they can easily be anticipated by team Naruto? First of all, focusing on individual opponents leaves him open for other attacks. Obito had no intentions of getting involved in the fight as he was already using up too much chakra in controlling the jinchuriki and moderating the battle especially because the full Bijuu were able to breech his control. Also the Rin'negan paths do not require any training but simply that the wielder possesses the doujutsu. It is highlighted in the fact that Nagato as a child had access to it's power long before learning basic Ninjutsu. That scan of Madara stating he would teach Obito Uchiha Kinjutsu and Rikudo Jutsu doesn't necessarily have to refer to the Rin'negan as all 'Rikudo Jutsu' do not hail from the Rin'negan. DSM Kabuto was also able to produce these jutsu, not wielding eye techniques of any sort solely implying that the Rikudo may have had special jutsu outside the Rin'negan's potential which may have also been deemed as 'his' jutsu.

 
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Re: The reason Obito hasn't been shown using the Rinnegan to it's fullest?

The Rinnegan techniques would however not have been easily countered at all. In many instances, they might even have given him a victory. Why didn't he use the Preta Path on Naruto's Rasengan? Why didn't he use the Human Path when he touched Kakashi? Why didn't he use the Deva Path in order to take out Gai? Using any of these a single time would not have been too Chakra taxing at all, and would have made the match a lot easier for him.

tell kishi why he isnt making him use the rinnegan techs.

obito have used preta path on kakashi as shown in here:

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he absorbed kyuubi chakra from kakashi.
 

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Re: Obito will use rinnegan now?

I see Obito more so using never before see hidden Uchiha jutsu & or OP Juubi based jutsu that he suddenly know's out of nowhere.

Prolly this will happen XD
 

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I want him to use Rinnegan jutsus .

Shinra Tensei all the fodders and I want only the main charas to remain in battlefields .
 

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Bansho Ten'in into his Kamui, the most op thing ever.
 

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All Sharingan moves: Kamui, Amaterasu, Tsukyiomii, Sussano, KA and Rinnegan moves: Six paths of Pein, All basic elemental Ninjtusu, Ying Yang release etc. ever shown in the manga + New unknown and never shown yet if Juubi reaches final form in Obito and if Final form of Current Juubi is somehow enough close to Complete Final Form Juubi.

Moreover He has to control Juubi first, and we can't be sure he can handle this well, so we have wait and see

However as for Current Juubi Form Obito should use Rinnengan better and on massive scale as he got huge amount of chakra now, so he can fight with all his might, maybe Kamui + Rinnengan combo

Or maybe

He will spam Bijuudama forgetting about other techniques LOL

or maybe

He will upgrade his Talk no jutsu so Naruto will talk with Obito and Obito will argue with Naruto for a lot of chapters ....

Hahah, that would be hell of trolling from Kishi, but we will see...
 

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Re: The reason Obito hasn't been shown using the Rinnegan to it's fullest?

Why the hell did this thread get merged with other threads? :|
Simply countering the Rin'negan's techniques isn't the issue but chakra pools would also have to be considered as Kakashi rightly stated. Jutsu such as Chou shinra tensei, Chibaku tensei or using multiple paths simultaneously [for each jinchuriki also] would have no doubt taken tremendous defects on Obito looking at the tolls taken on Nagato. Obito's objective with the Rin'negan was to resurrect the Juubi, nothing more.

@Bold: In actuality those things would have been tasking given that Obito was:

-> Maintaining control over both the Jinchriki and their Respective Bijuu
-> Supplying them basic Sharingan functions [ability to anticipate attacks]
-> Supplying them basic Rin'negan functions [linked vision]
-> Maintaining the Gedo summon
-> Utilizing Kamui
-> Utilizing the Outer path chains
-> Initiating Jinchuriki transformations

All these things would have been consuming his chakra tremendously; and how would utilizing the paths aid him in any when when they can easily be anticipated by team Naruto? First of all, focusing on individual opponents leaves him open for other attacks. Obito had no intentions of getting involved in the fight as he was already using up too much chakra in controlling the jinchuriki and moderating the battle especially because the full Bijuu were able to breech his control. Also the Rin'negan paths do not require any training but simply that the wielder possesses the doujutsu. It is highlighted in the fact that Nagato as a child had access to it's power long before learning basic Ninjutsu. That scan of Madara stating he would teach Obito Uchiha Kinjutsu and Rikudo Jutsu doesn't necessarily have to refer to the Rin'negan as all 'Rikudo Jutsu' do not hail from the Rin'negan. DSM Kabuto was also able to produce these jutsu, not wielding eye techniques of any sort solely implying that the Rikudo may have had special jutsu outside the Rin'negan's potential which may have also been deemed as 'his' jutsu.

The Rinnegan grants the user multiple techniques, and out of all these techniques, the Chou Shinra Tensei, the Chibaku Tensei, and the Rinne Tensei are the only ones who have been shown to be taxing enough to actually visibly affect the user. If we assume Obito had the other Paths at his disposal, using them when an opportunity appeared would not have been too Chakra taxing at all, especially for a man of Obito's caliber, who's Chakra Reserves have been shown to be monstrous, to say the least. You say that all these Jutsu tasked Obito immensely, and yet, Obito was surprised at the sheer thought of him sweating a bit after using these techniques. [ - ] I must say that to me, it does not look like these techniques were too taxing at all, Chakra, or otherwise, simply because of how high his reserves are, and due to his experience as a Shinobi.

I don't see how using a single attack yourself would have left him open to an attack. If that was the reason for him not using the Rinnegan techniques, for what reason did he not use them when he was alone with or in the Kamui dimension. In both of these cases, Paths like the Preta, Human, or maybe just the Deva or Asura Path would have been immensely useful, and would have assured his victory, and yet, he decided not to go with these techniques, despite the fact that in these instances, using them would not have opened him to an attack from any of his other opponents.

The bold part, I must say that I highly disagree with. Whether an opponent has info on a technique is in no way a guarantee that the opponent will be able to counter that technique. One might have info on the Perfect Susano'o, but it would not prevent it from trampling on you when facing it. Even while they do have info on the techniques, counters would not always have been easy. How would Gai have countered a full-blow Shinra Tensei when he and Obito engaged in CQC? Simply, despite his info, he would not have been able to do anything but sit back and take the attack, something that would have injured him greatly, without a doubt.
 
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