[Spoilers] So what happened to the Invincible Susanoo?
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Allan Hoshigaki
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Nothing's perfect, Anything seemingly Perfect has a weakness or can be prevented.
Think of the fanboys for example:
"oooh mah god, Sasuke is sooo strong, he has EMS. ooh mah god"
All you gotta say is:
"Grow up"
See! prevented just like that
Think of the fanboys for example:
"oooh mah god, Sasuke is sooo strong, he has EMS. ooh mah god"
All you gotta say is:
"Grow up"
See! prevented just like that
Namikaze Naruto 6thHokage
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Lets not get carried away I agree this was probably not his full Susano and we still don't know how much damage they actually did. It might not be invincible but if it takes five kages a combination attack of that magnitude just to scratch the dudes forehead protector then i dont give a sh*t how powerful Sage Tails Naruto is supposed to be no one will be able to take Madara out at their current levels and him being immortal and all. Except if hell freezes over and Naruto and Sasuke "or even worse Tobi" join up and give it a try!!! :flaw:
immortal sage
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Agreed soosano is not invincible but it wasn't complete or els you wouldn't see it's ribs ms or ems
I think the TS point was that the manga proved a sht load of sasuke fanboys wrong. When we see a sasuke vs. anyone thread they make sasunoo he be all end all of defenses. Since raikage and tuchikage were able to pierce it EVEN A LITTLE it has a way to be broken (armor or not, and who knows if armour is on all of em. while sauke was fighting danzo he used a freaking crossbow, i havent seen itachi use a crossbow, sasukes sasunoo is also weilding the blackflame like a bball, i havent seen itachi sasunoo do that, so we cant say that one is comeplete or not becuase so far sasuke can manipulate black flame with it and use a crossbow, Itachi with the yata mirror and sword can seal and block any attack, and madara has two faces and four arms and looks like th size of the empirestate building and do jutsu. With all those differences can we really deem madara sasunoo imcomplete becuase it dont got armour?) So with that the TS has a point Sasunoo is not invincible and EVEN if it takes MORE THAN ONE person to break it it is not incinvible.
What we can conclude is that Susano not only has different stages of progression, but for each user it also has access to different abilities. Itachi's Susano was unique in that it had two one of a kind techniques that are not unique to Susano. They are actual techniques that are passed down from teach to student, and Itachi somehow managed to learn both and keep them safe from the rest of the ninja world.
In addition to that, his Susano was fully formed and capable of wielding those techniques (much like Madara's Susano was capable of using techniques and weaving signs). Was it invincible? It certainly appeared that way to any ordinary ninja. I think that is part of the perception of the characters more than it is written that way by Kishi.
Sasuke's Susano only became fully developed in his fight against Danzo and then Kakashi, where he nearly went blind due to over use of the MS. While Sasuke's Susano doesn't have access to the same techniques that Itachi's did, it does now have the full cloak/armor set and techniques of it's own. Being able to manipulate the black flames and fire a long ranged attack are very formidable techniques.
Aside from that fact, Danzo was only able to penetrate it before it became fully formed. It was still in the early stages where it was missing it's cloak/armor. Danzo had to use an enormous amount of chakra to summon the nightmare devourer and then use wind techniques to even put a dent in that Susano.
The point being, that not everyone is a 'fanboi.' Some people actually pay close attention to the entire manga series and don't make assertions about who's stronger or weaker in a certain match up. I may or may not like any of the characters, but I can tell you right now that Sasuke and Naruto have been in a constant rivalry to develop their abilities as much as possible since the beginning of the manga.
The entire story is a culmination of revived war and hatred in a world where Shinobi are tools to be used for war, and the focus of the story is about how those ninja deal with such a world. It's not about who's cooler or who's stronger. It's about who uses their abilities in the most efficient/effective manner, and the impact that has on the storyline.
Madara's abilities are not yet fully known because he's only been summoned by Edo Tensei for a few chapters. We still have an upcoming battle between Tobi, Naruto, and B. We still have another upcoming battle between Itachi and Kabuto. Putting all this thought and conjecture into Madara and Susano is largely irrelevant.
Susano is a tool to be used by ninjas, and so far Edo Madara has shown unparalleled offensive capabilities with his Susano, which has not been fully formed yet. Whether or not he can form it to the level of Sasuke or Itachi is irrelevant. Madara hasn't been sealed yet, so there is still the possibility that he just hasn't done it yet.
Stop speculating over trivial BS plz, it's annoying.
In addition to that, his Susano was fully formed and capable of wielding those techniques (much like Madara's Susano was capable of using techniques and weaving signs). Was it invincible? It certainly appeared that way to any ordinary ninja. I think that is part of the perception of the characters more than it is written that way by Kishi.
Sasuke's Susano only became fully developed in his fight against Danzo and then Kakashi, where he nearly went blind due to over use of the MS. While Sasuke's Susano doesn't have access to the same techniques that Itachi's did, it does now have the full cloak/armor set and techniques of it's own. Being able to manipulate the black flames and fire a long ranged attack are very formidable techniques.
Aside from that fact, Danzo was only able to penetrate it before it became fully formed. It was still in the early stages where it was missing it's cloak/armor. Danzo had to use an enormous amount of chakra to summon the nightmare devourer and then use wind techniques to even put a dent in that Susano.
The point being, that not everyone is a 'fanboi.' Some people actually pay close attention to the entire manga series and don't make assertions about who's stronger or weaker in a certain match up. I may or may not like any of the characters, but I can tell you right now that Sasuke and Naruto have been in a constant rivalry to develop their abilities as much as possible since the beginning of the manga.
The entire story is a culmination of revived war and hatred in a world where Shinobi are tools to be used for war, and the focus of the story is about how those ninja deal with such a world. It's not about who's cooler or who's stronger. It's about who uses their abilities in the most efficient/effective manner, and the impact that has on the storyline.
Madara's abilities are not yet fully known because he's only been summoned by Edo Tensei for a few chapters. We still have an upcoming battle between Tobi, Naruto, and B. We still have another upcoming battle between Itachi and Kabuto. Putting all this thought and conjecture into Madara and Susano is largely irrelevant.
Susano is a tool to be used by ninjas, and so far Edo Madara has shown unparalleled offensive capabilities with his Susano, which has not been fully formed yet. Whether or not he can form it to the level of Sasuke or Itachi is irrelevant. Madara hasn't been sealed yet, so there is still the possibility that he just hasn't done it yet.
Stop speculating over trivial BS plz, it's annoying.
NaruGokuPWNS
Active member
The sussanoo is invincible, and its the FINAL FORM as well as the pre-final form (form before the final-final one), thats invincible. Zetsu himself said that itachis final final sussano was INVINCIBLE in the manga. So ha!
Difference between being a fanboy and stating facts.
Difference between being a fanboy and stating facts.
pain said he is god.. well, is he?
naruto said gaara's sand is the ultimate defense.. well, is it?
zetsu said sasuke won..well, does he?
If I said tenten is stronger than minato. will you believe it? lol
difference between a retard and stating facts.
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ChupaKoTensie
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Susanoo derives its' strength from the one who conjured it. It's no good when chakra is nearly depleted.
Itachi's susanoo is invincible because it comes with the yata mirror which deflects all attacks, and with the sword of totsuka which seals anything it pierces.
Only itachi posses both items, he picked them up from i donnon where. I believe Oro was looking for them as well. It unclear whether he passed them on to sasuke.
Only itachi posses both items, he picked them up from i donnon where. I believe Oro was looking for them as well. It unclear whether he passed them on to sasuke.