So was Minato actually a perfect Jinchuuriki before he died?

[Gold Lightning]

or maybe Kishi is giving Minato asspull power ups

It's not like Kishi hasn't given ass pull power ups b4. It makes more sense to me than, battling the Kyuubi in the reapers belly and playing chakra tug of war to achieve KCM/BM.

Plus I thought u needed a key to unlock the seal first?

 

[Avinash012]

Minato has potential to tame Kyubi regarless of wether he is an EDO or not but the probulem is that his body can't handel Kyubi's power when he is alive unless Minato is a Senju or Uzumaki ...

kurama just let him use its chakra cause worlds end and shiat

It dosen't mean that Minato can use it perfectly just bcoz Kyubi let him ...

 

[Gold Lightning]

Minato has potential to tame Kyubi regarless of wether he is an EDO or not but the probulem is that his body can't handel Kyubi's power when he is alive unless Minato is a Senju or Uzumaki ...

You referring to when he said it felt heavy, I just assumed that would happen to anyone right after sealing a tailed beast within you while conscious and low on chakra.

 

[Minator93]

:erm: ok, if you show me the scan where Minato fought and defeated Yin Kurama then I'd believe you. But since I have a pretty good feeling that you're just guessing I won't take your word for it.

If that's the case then get lost.

 

[Gold Lightning]

If that's the case then get lost.

lol, it's my thread you go. Just because you don't have proof, why should I blindly believe your assumptions when there's been no hint, suggestion or clarification of minato ever talking to kuramas other half before his Resurrection.

 

[Minator93]

lol, it's my thread you go. Just because you don't have proof, why should I blindly believe your assumptions when there's been no hint, suggestion or clarification ever even talking to 9 tails before his Resurrection.

Lool your fail thread that was ended by my post.

You deserve to be negged for your stupidity.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Lool your fail thread that was ended by my post.

You deserve to be negged for your stupidity.

But all you did was guess, you didn't clarify anything. Sure Minato's soul and Yin Sould may have fought for 17 years but those are just souls, you have no idea how souls would work or if they can even use jutsu when within a reapers belly or wheteher they even take on a physical form within the belly.

 

[Avinash012]

You referring to when he said it felt heavy, I just assumed that would happen to anyone right after sealing a tailed beast within you while conscious and low on chakra.

Nah Iam not sayng that Bcoz Minato said so ....There is a reason Y only Uzumaki's have been choosen as Kyubi's Jin ....

No one Besides Uzumaki's with strong chakra(Even among Uzumaki) can host Kyubi ..
Minato indirectly mentioned that he can't host Kyubi Here

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Minato is strong enough to beat Kyubi and skilled enough to control it's power but his body can't handel it...

 

[Gold Lightning]

Nah Iam not sayng that Bcoz Minato said so ....There is a reason Y only Uzumaki's have been choosen as Kyubi's Jin ....

No one Besides Uzumaki's with strong chakra(Even among Uzumaki) can host Kyubi ..
Minato indirectly mentioned that he can't host Kyubi Here

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Minato is strong enough to beat Kyubi and skilled enough to control it's power but his body can't handel it...

Isn't that the reason he sealed half the 9 tails within him, otherwise he would've probably died after using it. The fact that he still used ninjutsu after that shows that he can handle the power. I understand Naruto wouldn't have been able to handle the 100% 9 tails at a baby's age but I think Minato was fine with half the chakra.

Just like how all those people who tried to host the 8 tails before Killer Bee died after trying to seal the 8 tails within them as they were not compatible.

 

[Avinash012]

Isn't that the reason he sealed half the 9 tails within him, otherwise he would've probably died after using it. The fact that he still used ninjutsu after that shows that he can handle the power. I understand Naruto wouldn't have been able to handle the 100% 9 tails at a baby's age but I think Minato was fine with half the chakra.

Just like how all those people who tried to host the 8 tails before Killer Bee died after trying to seal the 8 tails within them as they were not compatible.

Yes ,he can't handel Kyubi when he is alive so he can't be a Jin when he is alive that is what everyone sayng ....

 

[Touken]

I just need help understanding the whole Yin half of Kurama's chakra and how Minato was able to utilize it. So from what I understand, it seem that Minato is actually a Jinchuuriki (a perfect one at that). If I'm not mistaken became a Jin before he died, which didn't kill him right? What killed him was the sealing of the other half into Naruto (plus the giant fox claw sticking through him and Kushina).

What I don't really understand is that Minato was perfectly able to utilize the chakra mode without any training after being revived as an Edo. Hence why Naruto and Kurama was so surprised and amazed at Minato's feat, so I get the impression that Minato achieved this through his own skill and ability.

I mean if he was able to do this without any training or practice as soon as he got to the battle field (after only being brought back to life for an hour or 2) then you'd think he could have done this if he didn't die? So isn't Bijuu Minato technically a perfect Jin (or at least able to use KCM) not just an Edo Minato feat but alive Minato could have done the same. Because I see some people in threads and vs threads saying alive Minato can not do all these things while some argue otherwise; which I find hard to believe. So what are you guys opinions?

First of all, he had to die in order to become Kurama's jinchuuriki. There's no other way about it. So alive Minato is not a jinchuuriki.

Second, he fought Kurama inside the belly of the Reaper. In order to achieve KCM, you need to defeat Kurama and he couldn't have done this in the 2 seconds he had closed his eyes in. Also, it shits on all of Naruto's hard work and all the difficulties he had to face of having a Bijuu inside of him.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Yes ,he can't handel Kyubi when he is alive so he can't be a Jin when he is alive that is what everyone sayng ....

I've re-read that scan a couple if times but I don't see where Minato indirectly states that he can't handle the Kyuubiu's chakra.

I see him saying that he can't seal 100% of the chakra because it's too great to seal it all. Obviously it's too great to seal all of it within a baby. And he seemed to be confident in sealing 50% in himself, otherwise he wouldn't have done it. I just don't see what you're referring to in that scan.

 

[Avinash012]

I've re-read that scan a couple if times but I don't see where Minato indirectly states that he can't handle the Kyuubiu's chakra.

I see him saying that he can't seal 100% of the chakra because it's too great to seal it all. Obviously it's too great to seal all of it within a baby. And he seemed to be confident in sealing 50% in himself, otherwise he wouldn't have done it. I just don't see what you're referring to in that scan.

"A seal only a non Jin can use " : means that he can't be a Jin & that's y he is used that seal...

I can't let Kyubi revive without a JIn : He can capture & Seal Kyubi inside him if he can handel it or Minato would have sealed it inside him ATM if he can handel it ....

When he said that Sealing Kyubi is physically Impossible he didn't even mentioned a thing abt Naruto ..he said that bcoz he run out of juice to seal Kyubi.....!

 

[cooldudes]

No.

RDS makes two souls fight each other for eternity. It may be that he won Kurama somehow with TNJ or raw power in 17 years.

And being a PJ in 5 minutes? You would have to love Rin to achieve that.

Totally Agreed =D

 

[Gold Lightning]

"A seal only a non Jin can use " : means that he can't be a Jin & that's y he is used that seal...

Ok I get it now, so he had to sacrifice himself in order to become a Jin. Makes sense, I still don't agree with the people saying he defeated the 9 tails within the Death reapers belly and obtained his chakra, that just sounds like a guess to me.

 

[Frikid]

Ok I get it now, so he had to sacrifice himself in order to become a Jin. Makes sense, I still don't agree with the people saying he defeated the 9 tails within the Death reapers belly and obtained his chakra, that just sounds like a guess to me.

Obviously they are wrong.

I think the yin kyuubi said something like " since my other half is helping naruto, i dont see a reason to why i shouldn't help u " .
So basically yin kyuubi is only helping minato because yang kyuubi is friends with naruto. yin kyuubi respects the feeling of yang kyuubi since they are basically counterparts of one being , so this is why yin kyuubi gave his chakra to minato and helped him.

Also, minato never intended on making himself a jinchuriki. All he wanted to do was give naruto the kyuubi's power so that he can master it and defeat obito , one day.
But since, now he have kyuubi chakra in him, he was like, why not use it.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Obviously they are wrong.

I think the yin kyuubi said something like " since my other half is helping naruto, i dont see a reason to why i shouldn't help u " .
So basically yin kyuubi is only helping minato because yang kyuubi is friends with naruto. yin kyuubi respects the feeling of yang kyuubi since they are basically counterparts of one being , so this is why yin kyuubi gave his chakra to minato and helped him.

Also, minato never intended on making himself a jinchuriki. All he wanted to do was give naruto the kyuubi's power so that he can master it and defeat obito , one day.
But since, now he have kyuubi chakra in him, he was like, why not use it.

That makes more sense I guess, but I think Yin only gave Minato chakra when Minato went BM.

When Minato went KCM I don't think he needed the 9 tails permission, cuz remember naruto doesn't need to be friends with kurama to go into chakra mode, just Bijuu mode. Which is probably why it only took Minato seconds to transform as soon as he got onto the battle field.

 

[Bogard]

Kyubi already knows he can't fvck up with Minato, so he gave his chakra immediately