So, was Hiruzen the strongest Hokage, or was that nonsense? If not, what rank?

[Dizzldot]

Adult naruto isn't above Hashirama who can just absorb all that kyuubi chakra...mokuton > bijuu, just like anybody that can summon the Gedo is above naruto because the Gedo > bijuu those are both manga facts mokuton and Gedo Statue have priority over them

Yeah mokuton can absorb a TSBRS naruto can fly hashirama can't touch him as he gets bombarded by attacks use logix

 

[Exaar]

let me enlighten you about a few things:

First of all, i didn't mention a thing about the fight's outcome, so you have already put your foot in your mouth about somebody making excuses.

Secondly, Tobirama already confirmed for a fact that he and Hashirama were significantly nerfed and restricted in their P1 appearance, so even if i were to bring it up as a reason why Hiruzen was able to seal their souls, it would be a perfectly valid argument if you compare what they did in the 4th Great Shinobi War versus what they were allowed to do in P1.

Third, if anybody is using excuses here, it's you. I just got through saying i wasn't calling Hiruzen weak, but you're still worked up over it for some reason. If you can't handle my opinion that he wasn't the strongest Hokage, then that's your problem to deal with.

What he is saying is correct though.
You're bringing up that both Tobirama and Hashirama were nerfed from their original power but failed to mention that hiruzen was significantly nerfed also.

An old and nerfed hiruzen struggling agaisnt a nerfed tobirama/hashirama (with immortal bodies and endless chakra) and full powered Oro doesn't disprove his hype in the slightest.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Naruto
Hashirama
Tobirama
Minato
Hiruzen
Tsunade
Kakashi

Nope Tsunade wreck Hiruzen, Minato can kill her, Nor can Tobirama, Hashirama would even have the hardest time defeating her than he would any other Kage bar Naruto.
Tsunade is more or less bordering Hahsirama level in terms of power.
She is a walking Sage Mode, with regneration, and a Monster Summon, literally the only different is no mokuton, which Her strength makes up for. Not to mention she was the only Kage to effectively handle 5 edo madara's at once, who shared fields of vision.

 

[kiiro]

Well. The manga says he surpassed Tobirama in his prime. Manga says that only Hashirama can defeat Madara. Manga says that Minato is still unsurpassable.

Who´s hype is better? Well, i would say Minato> Hashirama > Hiruzen > Tobirama.

 

[BlacLord™]

Weakest Hokage.

The databook actually said that he mastered the five basic natures (and showed greater potential than Tobirama in them) and that he has the complete knowledge of hiden and genjutsu, so much so that he can explain them, earning him the nickname "The Professor". To boot, he doesn't have a uniquely strong ninjutsu or special trait that gives him a constant advantage in battle.

Hashirama was all-round incredible, Tobirama had his speedy reflexes and array of specialized ninjutsu, Minato had his speed and Rasengan, Tsunade has Byakugou and Senju/Uzumaki hybrid lineage and Kakashi has his sharp instincts, foot speed and keen nose.

1) Naruto
2) Hashirama
3) Tobirama
4) Minato
5) Kakashi
6) Tsunade
7) Hiruzen

I put her above Hiruzen based on the fact that his basic elemental streams, Karyu Endan and shurikenjutsu get tanked/dodged, and also that Kishi himself gave her a higher DB stat.