So ultimately, what is Canon?

SilverfoxUchiha

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Hey all. I have an issue. And the issue is this whole series of events the anime has been covering regarding Kaguya, Hagoromo, Hamura and the Ten Tails.

Can someone please explain this to me.

In the manga we learned that Hagoromo sealed the Juubi inside him and sealed Husk of the Ten Tails (Gedo Mazou) in the moon.

We also learned in the manga that before dying Hagoromo separated the nine bijuu.

My confusion is this: its stated he sealed the ten tails and became its jinchuriki. Its also stated that kaguya was the Ten Tails. So then.. was Kaguya sealed as the Gedo Mazou or part of it? Was it the chakra of the juu i that he actually became the Jinchuriki of (which would be the Nine Tailed Beasts). And that being the case.. if according to the manga it was stated that he made the moon before he died (remember??).... but at the same time in the manga didnt it state that he and hamura created the moon when they sealed Kaguya with Chibaku Tensei??

I know there are plot holes that kishi wrote himself into..

But then.. with the anime. I am also aware that Studio Pierrot were also the ones to suggest Kaguyas character to Kishimoto when he couldnt find a way to defeat Madara. Which is why i give some credibility to their backstory of Kaguyas character.

But. what is canon regarding the history of the Sage of the Six Paths?

Kishis plothole?

Or Studio Pierrots plothole? Given the fact that Studio Pierrot gave the idea of Kaguya to Kishi when he was running out of ideas.

Or is canon simply = plothole and should be left there?

But then.... would still be nice to know as we are rounding up the story.

I enjoyed the episode and am slightly annoyed wih kishi for leaving a plothole regarding such an influential figure in the series (the Sage of the Six Paths) so wide open, even tho he had hyped him so much the whole series.

Meh.... maybe the answer is simply: "Meh"...
 

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Idk man.

The anime pretty much made Sasuke and Naruto look stronger than Hagaromo imo
 

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Nothing is because SP screwed up like they always do. Kaguya's background was pretty nice but they messed up with the Shinju. And Hagoromo background was messed up when they gave him a dojutsu he never had.
 

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Idk man.

The anime pretty much made Sasuke and Naruto look stronger than Hagaromo imo
No.. Hogoromo's susanoo is at Juubi's size.

Canon = Manga.
 

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This is Canon
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Canon is something made by the main author ^^
Filler=not made by main author
 

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No.. Hogoromo's susanoo is at Juubi's size.

Canon = Manga.

It was. But it was just a copy of Madara Susanoo man... wasnt impressed with that.

My imagination leaves me open minded enough to entertain the thought that Madaras Susanoo was from Hagoromo.. just as it seems Sasukes Raiton was.

And not too hard to believe seeing as Indra was Hagoromos son.

However.. have had enough of SP trying to fill in Kishis plothole and lack of Hagoromos character backstory...

Back to canon we go heh hehe
 

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This is Canon
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And this:
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Canon is something made by the main author ^^
Filler=not made by main author

Well... i guess kishi left that plothole behind before he retired eh... what should we expect.

However... i still enjoyed Kaguyas initial backstory and separately enjoyed todays episode. The issue has been tying it all together.
 

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Im taking what i see in the anime for pretty much cannon i mean we have these die hard manga fanobys who scream filler as soon as its discussed but then they have no idea about the sage kaguya or hamuras backstory these fillers today even portrayed momo and kinshinki even the old toad sage so in my opinon SP is just giving us what we literally begged for backstory on the sage and kaguya and now since hagoromo has sharingan its all fillers

I find it hilarious but at the end of the day kaguya has no official backstory other than what we just saw so until a more credible source can present new information on this topic im taking what the anime gave me call me old fashoined i just rather not rack my brain trying to figure it out when SP did that already and the only reason people call it filler is because of sharingan and sussano which actually makes sense since the rinnegan cant b obtained without sharingan evolving naturally people just assumed hagoromo was born with the rinnegan so they deny everything else

Ill admit i was suprised seeing sussano and sharingan but it fits what we have been told
 

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Only the manga-stuff is canon, nothing from Studio Pierrot's anime.
 

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Source that SP told kishi about Kaguya???
 

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Im taking what i see in the anime for pretty much cannon i mean we have these die hard manga fanobys who scream filler as soon as its discussed but then they have no idea about the sage kaguya or hamuras backstory these fillers today even portrayed momo and kinshinki even the old toad sage so in my opinon SP is just giving us what we literally begged for backstory on the sage and kaguya and now since hagoromo has sharingan its all fillers

I find it hilarious but at the end of the day kaguya has no official backstory other than what we just saw so until a more credible source can present new information on this topic im taking what the anime gave me call me old fashoined i just rather not rack my brain trying to figure it out when SP did that already and the only reason people call it filler is because of sharingan and sussano which actually makes sense since the rinnegan cant b obtained without sharingan evolving naturally people just assumed hagoromo was born with the rinnegan so they deny everything else

Ill admit i was suprised seeing sussano and sharingan but it fits what we have been told

I more or less share the same view as you.

For all the people saying all filler is not canon - they still cannot give me an accurate description of what canon is because it was actually left as a plothole so they would rather defend a plothole instead tbh. Which is cool. But storytellingwise.... nah man
 

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For all the people saying all filler is not canon - they still cannot give me an accurate description of what canon is because it was actually left as a plothole so they would rather defend a plothole instead tbh. Which is cool. But storytellingwise.... nah man

But.. nothing in the manga is as much of a plothole as the current anime-stuff if everything in the threads about it really happened in the anime.
 

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I more or less share the same view as you.

For all the people saying all filler is not canon - they still cannot give me an accurate description of what canon is because it was actually left as a plothole so they would rather defend a plothole instead tbh. Which is cool. But storytellingwise.... nah man

Your right man i cant find a backstory searching through nb so as much as people hate SP they did answer what no one has and thats including kishi himself
 

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Your right man i cant find a backstory searching through nb so as much as people hate SP they did answer what no one has and thats including kishi himself

SP animated the scenes we didn't see but could obviously piece together ourselves based on the manga, which would have been fine, except they also threw out maybe 5 absolute contradictions to the manga as well.

The members of NB know more about Naruto than the animators of the Naruto anime.
 

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This simply because Kishimoto himself illustrated the novels alongside with supervising them personally.
Woah, Woah. Stop right there. When was this stated?

OT. The manga and any other content approved by the author.
 

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filler is anything from the anime that makes it more awesome than the manga.so awesome Infact,that manga fanatics get butthurt and call it irrelevant.Hope that helps
 
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