So Tobirama is 2nd to Hagoromo in Ninjutsu

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Well, Tobirama did create jutsus such as Edo Tensei, FTG, and Shadow Clones.
 

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You don't know if Tobirama made that technique, and also, that technique is a suicide one. Also, White Snake Regeneration; Oral Rebirth.

Do remember that Orochimaru based his jutsu of Resurrection on theories and formulas previously formulated, possibly by Hiruzen or Tobirama.

Given Hiruzen was shocked Orochimaru was studying resurrection jutsu's when he encountered him doing those things.
 

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Do remember that Orochimaru based his jutsu of Resurrection on theories and formulas previously formulated, possibly by Hiruzen or Tobirama.

Given Hiruzen was shocked Orochimaru was studying resurrection jutsu's when he encountered him doing those things.
Or, or, or, or, he was studying it by using the life of others, and chakra.
 

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He's only missing senjutsu. How Hashirama has it but Tobirama doesn't is hilarious.
 

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All that power, Just to be solod by Hashirama
 

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He's only missing senjutsu. How Hashirama has it but Tobirama doesn't is hilarious.

He probably can use senjutsu but can't use Sage Mode that well.

Considering the fact he knew how to counter Obito with senjutsu and recognizing Mt. Myoboku toads.
 

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He probably can use senjutsu but can't use Sage Mode that well.

Considering the fact he knew how to counter Obito with senjutsu and recognizing Mt. Myoboku toads.

Lol, recognising toads doesn't mean anything. Most people of the leaf know myoboku toads. Tobiramas name is neither on the toad contract, nor is he listed as a senjutsu user in the 4th databook. And they would've listed him if he was, cuz even Jugo is listed. His bro uses senjutsu so of course he knows it.
 

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I think that's accurate

I also think Kakashi should be up there as well, look at the raikiri variants he made.
 

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That's a very over-reaching statement. I'll say Orochimaru surpasses him given how many things he dabbled in.
 

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Hagoromo > Orochimaru > Tobirama > Madara/Hiruzen.
 

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Here is the order...

1. Madara
2. Obito
3. Hagoromo
4. Sasuke
5. Naruto
6. Hashirama
7. Hiruzen
8. Itachi
9. Danzo
10. Tobirama
 
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